[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Modifications to Windows Readme file

2001-05-12 Thread Phil Driscoll

On Friday 11 May 2001 23:26, Richard Lynch wrote:
 If you ignore it, you'll continue the problem:  People attempt to install
 PHP with PWS on Win95/98 and get frustrated, and have to dig all over
 creation to find install instructions that should have been in the PHP
 release.

What I'm suggesting that we ignore is the fact that PWS4 on NTWS might for 
legacy reasons look at the registry - although I have no evidence that it 
does other than the old PHP installation instructions.

The new installation instructions I've submitted to the phpdoc team give 
instructions on fiddling with the registry for W9x/ME users, and updating the 
IIS metabase for IIS4+/PWS4+ users on NT server, NTWS and W2K.

In other words, I believe that the new instructions are both consistent and 
correct :)

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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Modifications to Windows Readme file

2001-05-11 Thread Richard Lynch

 I think PWS on 95/98 looks in the registry...
 Agreed - PWS on these platforms is fundamentally a cut down version of
IIS3.
 I suspect it is possible to have this on NTWS as well, but PWS4 which
comes
 with the NT option pack (same CD as IIS4) certainly looks in the
Metabase -
 though I don't know whether it also checks the registry. In any event,
even
 if it does, it will only be for legacy reasons, so I think we can ignore
it.

If you ignore it, you'll continue the problem:  People attempt to install
PHP with PWS on Win95/98 and get frustrated, and have to dig all over
creation to find install instructions that should have been in the PHP
release.

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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Modifications to Windows Readme file

2001-05-10 Thread Phil Driscoll

then please merge the install.txt in there, as it's currently somewhat 
incomplete

I will attempt to do that this afternoon.

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[PHP-DEV] RE: [PHP-QA] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Modifications to Windows Readme file

2001-05-10 Thread Cynic

I don't think so, it looks ok.
But I must admit that I prefer plaintext readme's... But that's
just me.

At 13:40 10.5. 2001, Liz wrote the following:
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I noticed no comments at all about the HTML version of the readme I offered..

Does it suck that bad?

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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Modifications to Windows Readme file

2001-05-10 Thread Phil Driscoll

Does it suck that bad?

No - it doesn't suck at all!
It's just that James's suggestion that we update the installation chapter of
the manual and generate the installation noted from that is so eminently
sensible, that it would be foolish to do otherwise - which sadly means that
the efforts both you and I did earlier will be consigned forever to languish
in the 'deleted items' folder :)

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[PHP-DEV] RE: [PHP-QA] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Modifications to Windows Readme file

2001-05-10 Thread Liz

 I don't think so, it looks ok.
 But I must admit that I prefer plaintext readme's... But that's
 just me.

Depends, for a unix system, I'd agree, I dont want a HTML one, but for
windows, its nice to have one you can easily skip to bits.  So, in this case,
Id say it was worth it. As every windows machine has file association and a
browser to view it with.


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[PHP-DEV] RE: [PHP-QA] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Modifications to Windows Readme file

2001-05-10 Thread Liz

 It's just that James's suggestion that we update the installation chapter of
 the manual and generate the installation noted from that is so eminently
 sensible, that it would be foolish to do otherwise - which sadly means that
 the efforts both you and I did earlier will be consigned forever to languish
 in the 'deleted items' folder :)

damn.


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[PHP-DEV] RE: [PHP-QA] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Modifications to Windows Readme file

2001-05-10 Thread Liz

On the subject of updating the manual though..

the IMAP, POP and NNTP functions section.. it only contains imap functions. Im
sure this is confusing to people.

 It's just that James's suggestion that we update the installation chapter of
 the manual and generate the installation noted from that is so eminently
 sensible, that it would be foolish to do otherwise - which sadly means that
 the efforts both you and I did earlier will be consigned forever to languish
 in the 'deleted items' folder :)


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Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: [PHP-QA] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Modifications to Windows Readme file

2001-05-10 Thread Chuck Hagenbuch

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 the IMAP, POP and NNTP functions section.. it only contains imap functions.
 Im sure this is confusing to people.

It's the names of the functions that are wrong, not the name of the section. 
Read the documentation for imap_open() - it'll talk to pop3 and nntp servers 
just fine, and almost all of the functions work with all three.

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[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Modifications to Windows Readme file

2001-05-10 Thread Phil Driscoll

I'm in the middle of sorting out the windows installation instructions for
the manual and the readme file for the windows distribution. What I thought
would be a quick job, as usual, is much more complicated than I thought. The
readme.txt, install.txt and the manual all contradict each other, and all
are wrong in various places :(

Anyway, I'm well on with the job, but I have an issue with the instructions
on installing PHP with PWS on NT Workstation. All the instructions
everywhere talk about editing the registry, but as far as I am aware, PWS on
NTWS is not in the least bit interested in the registry - it uses the IIS
metabase just the same as IIS 4 and above. The windows installer certainly
edits the metabase rather than the registry when doing an install of PWS on
NTWS, and that works fine. As far as I'm concerned, the instructions for
installing PHP on PWS/NTWS should be the same as for installing with IIS/NT
Server.

Does anyone know something I don't on this issue, or is it ok for me to go
ahead and change the instructions accordingly?

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[PHP-DEV] RE: [PHP-QA] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Modifications to Windows Readme file

2001-05-10 Thread Liz

 Anyway, I'm well on with the job, but I have an issue with the instructions
 on installing PHP with PWS on NT Workstation. All the instructions
 everywhere talk about editing the registry, but as far as I am aware, PWS on
 NTWS is not in the least bit interested in the registry - it uses the IIS
 metabase just the same as IIS 4 and above. The windows installer certainly
 edits the metabase rather than the registry when doing an install of PWS on
 NTWS, and that works fine. As far as I'm concerned, the instructions for
 installing PHP on PWS/NTWS should be the same as for installing with IIS/NT
 Server.

As I was aware the PWS on NT4 did use registry stuff, as the management
console sucks.  But, its been a long time since I looked at one.


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[PHP-DEV] RE: [PHP-QA] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Modifications to Windows Readme file

2001-05-10 Thread Liz

 To the best of my knowledge, it used to when it was based on IIS3 (and was
 essentially the same thing currently shipped as PWS for 9x/ME) but the
 current PWS for NTWS is essentially IIS4.

Could only be an improvement.

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