Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP] PHP Developer Required]

2007-09-05 Thread mlists
A university, which hypes the need for an education, charges a fortune for it (causing people to go into massive debt to get it), and then turns around an offers less than a living wage is hypocritical. Becoming university staff takes a couple years, after which salaries are competivitive with

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP] PHP Developer Required]

2007-09-05 Thread Greg Gay
Some people just have to whine. It's too bad people on this list have to put up with this behaviour. We do have a position available for someone who wants to work, and climb the ladder into what could be a lifelong career working with a leading edge group of developers. It is a foot in the door

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP] PHP Developer Required]

2007-09-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 09:18 -0400, Greg Gay wrote: http://atrc.utoronto.ca/index.php?option=com_contenttask=blogcategoryid=26Itemid=109 VRML... it makes me cry how it never came to be as popular as it could have been. Cheers, Rob. --

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP] PHP Developer Required]

2007-09-05 Thread Dan Shirah
I personally think it sounds like a pretty fun job with a lot of potential. Even if you don't get hired on as staff after the contract is up, you're still potentially walking away with: 1 - Some excellent business contacts 2 - First hand experience in developing their new applications 3 - More

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP] PHP Developer Required]

2007-09-05 Thread Greg Gay
Dan Shirah wrote: My only question is.is that $50,000 Canadian dollars or American? :) It's in Canadian dollars. Though there's not much difference between Canadian and American dollars any more. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP] PHP Developer Required]

2007-09-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 09:47 -0400, Dan Shirah wrote: I personally think it sounds like a pretty fun job with a lot of potential. Even if you don't get hired on as staff after the contract is up, you're still potentially walking away with: 1 - Some excellent business contacts 2 - First hand

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP] PHP Developer Required]

2007-09-05 Thread Daniel Brown
On 9/5/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I don't think the currency matters very much anymore... you get $1.05 on the American dollar these days. It's not like 6 years ago where you got around a $1.80 :) Until you think about the fact that the $0.05 difference on the

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP] PHP Developer Required]

2007-09-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 14:03 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: On 9/5/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I don't think the currency matters very much anymore... you get $1.05 on the American dollar these days. It's not like 6 years ago where you got around a $1.80 :) Until

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP] PHP Developer Required]

2007-09-05 Thread Daniel Brown
On 9/5/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well $2,500 is $2,500... no arguing that. But 6 years ago you'd have gotten about $40,000 and that certainly made a BIG difference :) Here, here. Don't worry, though soon that $50k Canadian will transfer to $84k+ American. At

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP] PHP Developer Required]

2007-09-05 Thread Greg Maruszeczka
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:35:10 -0400 Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/5/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well $2,500 is $2,500... no arguing that. But 6 years ago you'd have gotten about $40,000 and that certainly made a BIG difference :) Here, here. Don't

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP] PHP Developer Required]

2007-09-05 Thread Daniel Brown
On 9/5/07, Greg Maruszeczka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You won't fit in very well with a mapleleaf on your face...er...except maybe in Toronto :) Fair enough, in this case. On 8/31/07, Greg Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Title: Web Applications Developer Open August 30, 2007, Closing

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP] PHP Developer Required]

2007-09-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 11:41 -0700, Greg Maruszeczka wrote: On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:35:10 -0400 Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/5/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well $2,500 is $2,500... no arguing that. But 6 years ago you'd have gotten about $40,000 and that

[Fwd: Re: [PHP] PHP Developer Required]

2007-09-04 Thread Greg Gay
Rob/mlists You're certainly not encouraging PHP programmers to get involved with paid open source projects. That's a guaranteed $50,000 a yr, a little low perhaps by industry standards, but it is a reasonable starting rate, and gets your foot in the door. You should have a look at who the

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP] PHP Developer Required]

2007-09-04 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 14:28 -0400, Greg Gay wrote: Rob/mlists You're certainly not encouraging PHP programmers to get involved with paid open source projects. That's a guaranteed $50,000 a yr, a little low perhaps by industry standards, but it is a reasonable starting rate, and gets your

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP] PHP Developer Required]

2007-09-04 Thread tedd
At 4:05 PM -0400 9/4/07, Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 14:28 -0400, Greg Gay wrote: Rob/mlists So, you can get that much? :-) I knew my MSc would pay off some day. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP