Re: [PHP] Creating new site

2008-07-31 Thread Raido
I have investigated some frameworks.. Zend and Codeiginiter but I haven't done any testing/exercises. They seem to make things much more simple/faster yes...but I'm not sure how much time it will take to get know one of them(or CakePHP). And I haven't got into reading licences...I'm sure they

Re: [PHP] Creating new site

2008-07-31 Thread Jason Norwood-Young
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 09:57 +, Raido wrote: I have investigated some frameworks.. Zend and Codeiginiter but I haven't done any testing/exercises. They seem to make things much more simple/faster yes...but I'm not sure how much time it will take to get know one of them(or CakePHP). And

Re: [PHP] Creating new site

2008-07-31 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Cake is licensed under the MIT license which is about as permissible as you can get. -Shawn Raido wrote: I have investigated some frameworks.. Zend and Codeiginiter but I haven't done any testing/exercises. They seem to make things much more simple/faster yes...but I'm not sure how much

Re: [PHP] Creating new site

2008-07-31 Thread Richard Heyes
Cake is licensed under the MIT license which is about as permissible as you can get. Any Open Source code is permissable as long you don't tell anyone... :-) -- Richard Heyes http://www.phpguru.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

[PHP] Creating new site

2008-07-30 Thread Raido
Hi, There are many sites explaining how to build new site etc but I'd like to hear what You suggest. (about how to plan whole thing and how to write separate parts which can be put together later) I have build many small sites for myself(site to organise class assembly which is like yearly

Re: [PHP] Creating new site

2008-07-30 Thread Jason Pruim
On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Raido wrote: [snip lots of info] I'm not sure but I have idea about what things I should do first: 1) think and write down any function that needs to be done(for example different validations, functions for showing/posting form etc) 2) plan and create database?

Re: [PHP] Creating new site

2008-07-30 Thread Richard Heyes
2008/7/30 Raido [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, There are many sites explaining how to build new site etc but I'd like to hear what You suggest. (about how to plan whole thing and how to write separate parts which can be put together later) This may be of some help:

Re: [PHP] Creating new site

2008-07-30 Thread Hélio Rocha
Hi, Even if it's just a site don't thing u don't need a structure to it. Why not a MVC structure? U can dig about cakephp on google to see some of it working. If U don't want to use a framework, start with the business rules u'll need, after that do the CRUD and for the piece of resistance

Re: [PHP] Creating new site

2008-07-30 Thread Micah Gersten
Depending on the size of the site, you might want to consider a PHP framework to start with. There's usually no point in reinventing the wheel. Someone mentioned CakePHP which utilizes MVC. I'm looking into porting my stuff to the Zend Framework which makes MVC optional, but has a lot of

Re: [PHP] Creating new site

2008-07-30 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Micah Gersten wrote: Depending on the size of the site, you might want to consider a PHP framework to start with. There's usually no point in reinventing the wheel. Someone mentioned CakePHP which utilizes MVC. I'm looking into porting my stuff to the Zend Framework which makes MVC optional,

Re: [PHP] Creating new site

2008-07-30 Thread Hélio Rocha
U may want to see Ruby On Rails www.rubyonrails.org . It's also a framework but for Ruby. In my opinion it's stronger than cake and there are some IDE's that do support and debug it. Cumps, Hélio Rocha On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Shawn McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Micah Gersten wrote:

Re: [PHP] Creating new site

2008-07-30 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 17:03 +0100, Hélio Rocha wrote: U may want to see Ruby On Rails www.rubyonrails.org . It's also a framework but for Ruby. In my opinion it's stronger than cake and there are some IDE's that do support and debug it. Dear Hélio, This is a PHP list. People usually come

Re: [PHP] Creating new site

2008-07-30 Thread Hélio Rocha
Sorry Robert and all other users. On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 17:03 +0100, Hélio Rocha wrote: U may want to see Ruby On Rails www.rubyonrails.org . It's also a framework but for Ruby. In my opinion it's stronger than cake

Re: [PHP] Creating new site

2008-07-30 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Hélio Rocha wrote: U may want to see Ruby On Rails www.rubyonrails.org . It's also a framework but for Ruby. In my opinion it's stronger than cake and there are some IDE's that do support and debug it. Cumps, Hélio Rocha There's also .NET http://www.microsoft.com. It's also a framework but