php-general Digest 3 May 2013 11:28:12 -0000 Issue 8216
php-general Digest 3 May 2013 11:28:12 - Issue 8216 Topics (messages 321001 through 321001): Re: Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in memecache 321001 by: marco.behnke.biz Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-subscr...@lists.php.net To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-unsubscr...@lists.php.net To post to the list, e-mail: php-gene...@lists.php.net -- ---BeginMessage--- But why are you caching uncompiled php code? Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com hat am 2. Mai 2013 um 23:21 geschrieben: While that may be true for most users, I see no reason that it should limit or force me to a certain use case given that dynamic pages make up the vast majority of web pages served. Secondly, there are 8 billion options in Tidy to configure it, I would be astonished if they were so short-sighted to not have one to disable converting and to lt; and gt; as they do for all sorts of other things like quotes, ampersands, etc. I just don't know which flag this falls under or what combination of flags I'm setting that is causing this to happen. Barring that little snag, it works like a champ. -Original Message- From: ma...@behnke.biz [mailto:ma...@behnke.biz] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:55 AM To: Daevid Vincent; 'php-general General' Subject: RE: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in memecache This is because tidy is for optimizing HTML, not for optimizing PHP. Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com hat am 2. Mai 2013 um 02:20 geschrieben: So I took the time to install Tidy extension and wedge it into my code. Now there is one thing that is killing me and breaking all my pages. This is what I WANT the result to be: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/templates/?= $layout_id ?/css/styles.css / link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/templates/?= $layout_id ?/css/retina.css media=only screen and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) / Which then 'renders' out to this normally without Tidy: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/templates/2/css/styles.css / link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/templates/2/css/retina.css media=only screen and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) / This is what Tidy does: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/templates/%3C?=%20$layout_id%20?%3E/css/styles.css link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/templates/%3C?=%20$layout_id%20?%3E/css/retina.css media=only screen and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) I found ['fix-uri' = false] which gets closer: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/templates/lt;?= $layout_id ?gt;/css/styles.css link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/templates/lt;?= $layout_id ?gt;/css/retina.css media=only screen and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) I've tried about every option I can think of. What is the solution to make it stop trying to be smarter than me and converting my and tags?? //See all parameters available here: http://tidy.sourceforge.net/docs/quickref.html $tconfig = array( //'clean' = true, 'hide-comments' = true, 'hide-endtags' = true, 'drop-proprietary-attributes' = true, //'join-classes' = true, //'join-styles' = true, //'quote-marks' = true, 'fix-uri' = false, 'numeric-entities' = true, 'preserve-entities' = true, 'doctype' = 'omit', 'tab-size' = 1, 'wrap' = 0, 'wrap-php' = false, 'char-encoding' = 'raw', 'input-encoding' = 'raw', 'output-encoding' = 'raw', 'newline' = 'LF', 'tidy-mark' = false, 'quiet' = true, 'show-errors' = ($this-_debug ? 6 : 0), 'show-warnings' = $this-_debug, ); From: Joseph Moniz [mailto:joseph.mo...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:55 PM To: Daevid Vincent Cc: php-general General Subject: Re: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in memecache http://php.net/manual/en/book.tidy.php - Joseph Moniz (510) 509-0775 | @josephmoniz https://twitter.com/josephmoniz | https://github.com/JosephMoniz GitHub | http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joseph-moniz/13/949/b54/ LinkedIn | Blog http://josephmoniz.github.io/ | CoderWall https://coderwall.com/josephmoniz Wake up early, Stay up late, Change the world On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com wrote: We do a lot with caching and storing in memecached as well as local copies so as to not hit the cache pool over the network and we have found some great
RE: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in memecache
But why are you caching uncompiled php code? Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com hat am 2. Mai 2013 um 23:21 geschrieben: While that may be true for most users, I see no reason that it should limit or force me to a certain use case given that dynamic pages make up the vast majority of web pages served. Secondly, there are 8 billion options in Tidy to configure it, I would be astonished if they were so short-sighted to not have one to disable converting and to lt; and gt; as they do for all sorts of other things like quotes, ampersands, etc. I just don't know which flag this falls under or what combination of flags I'm setting that is causing this to happen. Barring that little snag, it works like a champ. -Original Message- From: ma...@behnke.biz [mailto:ma...@behnke.biz] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:55 AM To: Daevid Vincent; 'php-general General' Subject: RE: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in memecache This is because tidy is for optimizing HTML, not for optimizing PHP. Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com hat am 2. Mai 2013 um 02:20 geschrieben: So I took the time to install Tidy extension and wedge it into my code. Now there is one thing that is killing me and breaking all my pages. This is what I WANT the result to be: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/templates/?= $layout_id ?/css/styles.css / link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/templates/?= $layout_id ?/css/retina.css media=only screen and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) / Which then 'renders' out to this normally without Tidy: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/templates/2/css/styles.css / link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/templates/2/css/retina.css media=only screen and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) / This is what Tidy does: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/templates/%3C?=%20$layout_id%20?%3E/css/styles.css link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/templates/%3C?=%20$layout_id%20?%3E/css/retina.css media=only screen and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) I found ['fix-uri' = false] which gets closer: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/templates/lt;?= $layout_id ?gt;/css/styles.css link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/templates/lt;?= $layout_id ?gt;/css/retina.css media=only screen and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) I've tried about every option I can think of. What is the solution to make it stop trying to be smarter than me and converting my and tags?? //See all parameters available here: http://tidy.sourceforge.net/docs/quickref.html $tconfig = array( //'clean' = true, 'hide-comments' = true, 'hide-endtags' = true, 'drop-proprietary-attributes' = true, //'join-classes' = true, //'join-styles' = true, //'quote-marks' = true, 'fix-uri' = false, 'numeric-entities' = true, 'preserve-entities' = true, 'doctype' = 'omit', 'tab-size' = 1, 'wrap' = 0, 'wrap-php' = false, 'char-encoding' = 'raw', 'input-encoding' = 'raw', 'output-encoding' = 'raw', 'newline' = 'LF', 'tidy-mark' = false, 'quiet' = true, 'show-errors' = ($this-_debug ? 6 : 0), 'show-warnings' = $this-_debug, ); From: Joseph Moniz [mailto:joseph.mo...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:55 PM To: Daevid Vincent Cc: php-general General Subject: Re: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in memecache http://php.net/manual/en/book.tidy.php - Joseph Moniz (510) 509-0775 | @josephmoniz https://twitter.com/josephmoniz | https://github.com/JosephMoniz GitHub | http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joseph-moniz/13/949/b54/ LinkedIn | Blog http://josephmoniz.github.io/ | CoderWall https://coderwall.com/josephmoniz Wake up early, Stay up late, Change the world On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com wrote: We do a lot with caching and storing in memecached as well as local copies so as to not hit the cache pool over the network and we have found some great tools to minimize our javascript and our css, and now we'd like to compress our HTML in these cache slabs. Anyone know of a good tool or even regex magic that I can call from PHP to compress/minimize the giant string web page before I store it in the cache? It's not quite as simple as stripping white space b/c obviously there are spaces between attributes in tags that need to be preserved, but also in the words/text on the page. I could strip out newlines I suppose, but then do I run into any issues in
RE: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in memecache
Well we get about 30,000 page hits PER SECOND.
So we have a template engine that generates a page using PHP/MySQL and
populates it as everyone else does with the generic content.
Then we store THAT rendered page in a cache (memcache pool as well as a local
copy on each server).
HOWEVER, there are of course dynamic parts of the page that can't be cached or
we'd be making a cached page for every unique user. So things like their ?=
$username ?, or maybe parts of the page change based up their membership ?php
if ($loggedin == true) { ?, or maybe parts of the page rotate different
content (modules if you like).
Therefore we are trying to mininimize/compress the cached pages that need to be
served by removing all !-- -- and /* */ and // and whitespace and other
stuff. When you have this much data to serve that fast, those few characters
here and there add up quickly in bandwidth and space. As well as render time
for both apache and the client's browser's parser.
Dig?
-Original Message-
From: ma...@behnke.biz [mailto:ma...@behnke.biz]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 4:28 AM
To: Daevid Vincent; 'php-general General'
Subject: RE: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in memecache
But why are you caching uncompiled php code?
Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com hat am 2. Mai 2013 um 23:21
geschrieben:
While that may be true for most users, I see no reason that it should
limit or
force me to a certain use case given that dynamic pages make up the vast
majority of web pages served.
Secondly, there are 8 billion options in Tidy to configure it, I would be
astonished if they were so short-sighted to not have one to disable
converting
and to lt; and gt; as they do for all sorts of other things like
quotes,
ampersands, etc. I just don't know which flag this falls under or what
combination of flags I'm setting that is causing this to happen.
Barring that little snag, it works like a champ.
-Original Message-
From: ma...@behnke.biz [mailto:ma...@behnke.biz]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:55 AM
To: Daevid Vincent; 'php-general General'
Subject: RE: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in
memecache
This is because tidy is for optimizing HTML, not for optimizing PHP.
Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com hat am 2. Mai 2013 um 02:20
geschrieben:
So I took the time to install Tidy extension and wedge it into my
code.
Now
there is one thing that is killing me and breaking all my pages.
This is what I WANT the result to be:
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/?=
$layout_id ?/css/styles.css /
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/?=
$layout_id ?/css/retina.css media=only screen and
(-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) /
Which then 'renders' out to this normally without Tidy:
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/2/css/styles.css /
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/2/css/retina.css media=only screen and
(-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) /
This is what Tidy does:
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/%3C?=%20$layout_id%20?%3E/css/styles.css
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/%3C?=%20$layout_id%20?%3E/css/retina.css media=only
screen and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2)
I found ['fix-uri' = false] which gets closer:
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/lt;?= $layout_id ?gt;/css/styles.css
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/lt;?= $layout_id ?gt;/css/retina.css media=only
screen
and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2)
I've tried about every option I can think of. What is the solution to
make
it stop trying to be smarter than me and converting my and tags??
//See all parameters available here:
http://tidy.sourceforge.net/docs/quickref.html
$tconfig = array(
//'clean' = true,
'hide-comments' = true,
'hide-endtags' = true,
'drop-proprietary-attributes' = true,
//'join-classes' = true,
//'join-styles' = true,
//'quote-marks' = true,
'fix-uri' = false,
'numeric-entities' = true,
'preserve-entities' = true,
'doctype' = 'omit',
'tab-size' = 1,
'wrap' = 0,
'wrap-php' = false,
'char-encoding' = 'raw',
'input-encoding' = 'raw',
'output-encoding' = 'raw',
'newline' = 'LF',
'tidy-mark' = false,
'quiet' = true,
'show-errors' = ($this-_debug ? 6 : 0),
'show-warnings' = $this-_debug,
);
From: Joseph Moniz [mailto:joseph.mo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday,
Re: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in memecache
If you really have that much traffic, then memcache isn't your answer to
caching. It is as slow as a fast database.
You should use APC caching instead. APC will also handle a lot of
bytecode caching.
If you want to go with tidy and surf around the php issues you could
optimize the single html parts, before glueing everything together.
Maybe google page speed is worth a look for you too?
With the loggedin flag, you can save two versions of your rendered, one
for loggedin users and for not logged in users. That saves you php code
in your template and you can use tidy. And for any other variables you
can load the dynamic data after the page load.
With tidy, have you tried
http://tidy.sourceforge.net/docs/quickref.html#preserve-entities
http://tidy.sourceforge.net/docs/quickref.html#fix-uri
Regards,
Marco
Am 03.05.13 19:40, schrieb Daevid Vincent:
Well we get about 30,000 page hits PER SECOND.
So we have a template engine that generates a page using PHP/MySQL and
populates it as everyone else does with the generic content.
Then we store THAT rendered page in a cache (memcache pool as well as a local
copy on each server).
HOWEVER, there are of course dynamic parts of the page that can't be cached
or we'd be making a cached page for every unique user. So things like their
?= $username ?, or maybe parts of the page change based up their membership
?php if ($loggedin == true) { ?, or maybe parts of the page rotate
different content (modules if you like).
Therefore we are trying to mininimize/compress the cached pages that need to
be served by removing all !-- -- and /* */ and // and whitespace and other
stuff. When you have this much data to serve that fast, those few characters
here and there add up quickly in bandwidth and space. As well as render time
for both apache and the client's browser's parser.
Dig?
-Original Message-
From: ma...@behnke.biz [mailto:ma...@behnke.biz]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 4:28 AM
To: Daevid Vincent; 'php-general General'
Subject: RE: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in memecache
But why are you caching uncompiled php code?
Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com hat am 2. Mai 2013 um 23:21
geschrieben:
While that may be true for most users, I see no reason that it should
limit or
force me to a certain use case given that dynamic pages make up the vast
majority of web pages served.
Secondly, there are 8 billion options in Tidy to configure it, I would be
astonished if they were so short-sighted to not have one to disable
converting
and to lt; and gt; as they do for all sorts of other things like
quotes,
ampersands, etc. I just don't know which flag this falls under or what
combination of flags I'm setting that is causing this to happen.
Barring that little snag, it works like a champ.
-Original Message-
From: ma...@behnke.biz [mailto:ma...@behnke.biz]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:55 AM
To: Daevid Vincent; 'php-general General'
Subject: RE: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in
memecache
This is because tidy is for optimizing HTML, not for optimizing PHP.
Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com hat am 2. Mai 2013 um 02:20
geschrieben:
So I took the time to install Tidy extension and wedge it into my
code.
Now
there is one thing that is killing me and breaking all my pages.
This is what I WANT the result to be:
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/?=
$layout_id ?/css/styles.css /
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/?=
$layout_id ?/css/retina.css media=only screen and
(-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) /
Which then 'renders' out to this normally without Tidy:
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/2/css/styles.css /
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/2/css/retina.css media=only screen and
(-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) /
This is what Tidy does:
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/%3C?=%20$layout_id%20?%3E/css/styles.css
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/%3C?=%20$layout_id%20?%3E/css/retina.css media=only
screen and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2)
I found ['fix-uri' = false] which gets closer:
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/lt;?= $layout_id ?gt;/css/styles.css
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/lt;?= $layout_id ?gt;/css/retina.css media=only
screen
and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2)
I've tried about every option I can think of. What is the solution to
make
it stop trying to be smarter than me and converting my and tags??
//See all parameters available here:
http://tidy.sourceforge.net/docs/quickref.html
$tconfig = array(
//'clean' = true,
'hide-comments' = true,
'hide-endtags' = true,
'drop-proprietary-attributes' = true,
RE: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in memecache
-Original Message-
From: Marco Behnke [mailto:ma...@behnke.biz]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:01 PM
To: Daevid Vincent; php php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in memecache
If you really have that much traffic, then memcache isn't your answer to
caching. It is as slow as a fast database.
That's not entirely true.
You should use APC caching instead. APC will also handle a lot of
bytecode caching.
We have both.
If you want to go with tidy and surf around the php issues you could
optimize the single html parts, before glueing everything together.
That would require much more work than simply getting and to work. And
honestly I've been hacking around Tidy so much at this point with regex to
minify the output, that I'm even wondering if Tidy is worth the both anymore.
Not sure what else it will give me.
Maybe google page speed is worth a look for you too?
We have over 1,000 servers in house and also distributed across nodes in
various cities and countries.
With the loggedin flag, you can save two versions of your rendered, one
for loggedin users and for not logged in users. That saves you php code
in your template and you can use tidy. And for any other variables you
can load the dynamic data after the page load.
I gave simplistic examples for the sake of illustration.
With tidy, have you tried
http://tidy.sourceforge.net/docs/quickref.html#preserve-entities
http://tidy.sourceforge.net/docs/quickref.html#fix-uri
Yes. See below. I posted all the flags I have tried and I too thought those
were the key, but sadly not.
Regards,
Marco
Am 03.05.13 19:40, schrieb Daevid Vincent:
Well we get about 30,000 page hits PER SECOND.
So we have a template engine that generates a page using PHP/MySQL and
populates it as everyone else does with the generic content.
Then we store THAT rendered page in a cache (memcache pool as well as a
local copy on each server).
HOWEVER, there are of course dynamic parts of the page that can't be
cached or we'd be making a cached page for every unique user. So things like
their ?= $username ?, or maybe parts of the page change based up their
membership ?php if ($loggedin == true) { ?, or maybe parts of the page
rotate different content (modules if you like).
Therefore we are trying to mininimize/compress the cached pages that need
to be served by removing all !-- -- and /* */ and // and whitespace and
other stuff. When you have this much data to serve that fast, those few
characters here and there add up quickly in bandwidth and space. As well as
render time for both apache and the client's browser's parser.
Dig?
-Original Message-
From: ma...@behnke.biz [mailto:ma...@behnke.biz]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 4:28 AM
To: Daevid Vincent; 'php-general General'
Subject: RE: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in
memecache
But why are you caching uncompiled php code?
Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com hat am 2. Mai 2013 um 23:21
geschrieben:
While that may be true for most users, I see no reason that it should
limit or
force me to a certain use case given that dynamic pages make up the vast
majority of web pages served.
Secondly, there are 8 billion options in Tidy to configure it, I would
be
astonished if they were so short-sighted to not have one to disable
converting
and to lt; and gt; as they do for all sorts of other things like
quotes,
ampersands, etc. I just don't know which flag this falls under or what
combination of flags I'm setting that is causing this to happen.
Barring that little snag, it works like a champ.
-Original Message-
From: ma...@behnke.biz [mailto:ma...@behnke.biz]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:55 AM
To: Daevid Vincent; 'php-general General'
Subject: RE: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in
memecache
This is because tidy is for optimizing HTML, not for optimizing PHP.
Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com hat am 2. Mai 2013 um 02:20
geschrieben:
So I took the time to install Tidy extension and wedge it into my
code.
Now
there is one thing that is killing me and breaking all my pages.
This is what I WANT the result to be:
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/?=
$layout_id ?/css/styles.css /
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/?=
$layout_id ?/css/retina.css media=only screen and
(-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) /
Which then 'renders' out to this normally without Tidy:
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/2/css/styles.css /
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/2/css/retina.css media=only screen and
(-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) /
This is what Tidy does:
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
Re: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in memecache
Am 03.05.2013 21:34, schrieb Daevid Vincent: -Original Message- From: Marco Behnke [mailto:ma...@behnke.biz] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:01 PM To: Daevid Vincent; php php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in memecache If you really have that much traffic, then memcache isn't your answer to caching. It is as slow as a fast database. That's not entirely true. There are many comparisions all around the web and we did a benchmark for ourselves when we evaluated what the fastest solution is. Memcache is slower than APC. It gets worse when you start communicating over the network with memcache. If you want to go with tidy and surf around the php issues you could optimize the single html parts, before glueing everything together. That would require much more work than simply getting and to work. And honestly I've been hacking around Tidy so much at this point with regex to minify the output, that I'm even wondering if Tidy is worth the both anymore. Not sure what else it will give me. Maybe it is the best solution to think about optimizations you want and code them by hand like stripping comments, too much whitespace, empty tags, linebreaks and whatever. I guess it will save a lot of time. Or you download the tidy sourcecode and put in your wanted changes? Maybe suggest a change request or submit a patch? Maybe google page speed is worth a look for you too? We have over 1,000 servers in house and also distributed across nodes in various cities and countries. Don't know if this is an answer to my question? You know what google page speed is about? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Kryptografische Unterschrift
Re: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in memecache
2013/5/3 Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com
-Original Message-
From: Marco Behnke [mailto:ma...@behnke.biz]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:01 PM
To: Daevid Vincent; php php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in
memecache
If you really have that much traffic, then memcache isn't your answer to
caching. It is as slow as a fast database.
That's not entirely true.
You should use APC caching instead. APC will also handle a lot of
bytecode caching.
We have both.
If you want to go with tidy and surf around the php issues you could
optimize the single html parts, before glueing everything together.
That would require much more work than simply getting and to work. And
honestly I've been hacking around Tidy so much at this point with regex to
minify the output, that I'm even wondering if Tidy is worth the both
anymore. Not sure what else it will give me.
Maybe google page speed is worth a look for you too?
We have over 1,000 servers in house and also distributed across nodes in
various cities and countries.
Really? Ever considered HTTP-Caching, or even Load-Balancing including ESI?
With the loggedin flag, you can save two versions of your rendered, one
for loggedin users and for not logged in users. That saves you php code
in your template and you can use tidy. And for any other variables you
can load the dynamic data after the page load.
I gave simplistic examples for the sake of illustration.
With tidy, have you tried
http://tidy.sourceforge.net/docs/quickref.html#preserve-entities
http://tidy.sourceforge.net/docs/quickref.html#fix-uri
Yes. See below. I posted all the flags I have tried and I too thought
those were the key, but sadly not.
Regards,
Marco
Am 03.05.13 19:40, schrieb Daevid Vincent:
Well we get about 30,000 page hits PER SECOND.
So we have a template engine that generates a page using PHP/MySQL and
populates it as everyone else does with the generic content.
Then we store THAT rendered page in a cache (memcache pool as well as a
local copy on each server).
HOWEVER, there are of course dynamic parts of the page that can't be
cached or we'd be making a cached page for every unique user. So things
like
their ?= $username ?, or maybe parts of the page change based up their
membership ?php if ($loggedin == true) { ?, or maybe parts of the page
rotate different content (modules if you like).
Therefore we are trying to mininimize/compress the cached pages that
need
to be served by removing all !-- -- and /* */ and // and whitespace and
other stuff. When you have this much data to serve that fast, those few
characters here and there add up quickly in bandwidth and space. As well
as
render time for both apache and the client's browser's parser.
Dig?
-Original Message-
From: ma...@behnke.biz [mailto:ma...@behnke.biz]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 4:28 AM
To: Daevid Vincent; 'php-general General'
Subject: RE: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in
memecache
But why are you caching uncompiled php code?
Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com hat am 2. Mai 2013 um 23:21
geschrieben:
While that may be true for most users, I see no reason that it should
limit or
force me to a certain use case given that dynamic pages make up the
vast
majority of web pages served.
Secondly, there are 8 billion options in Tidy to configure it, I
would
be
astonished if they were so short-sighted to not have one to disable
converting
and to lt; and gt; as they do for all sorts of other things
like
quotes,
ampersands, etc. I just don't know which flag this falls under or
what
combination of flags I'm setting that is causing this to happen.
Barring that little snag, it works like a champ.
-Original Message-
From: ma...@behnke.biz [mailto:ma...@behnke.biz]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:55 AM
To: Daevid Vincent; 'php-general General'
Subject: RE: [PHP] Need a tool to minimize HTML before storing in
memecache
This is because tidy is for optimizing HTML, not for optimizing PHP.
Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com hat am 2. Mai 2013 um 02:20
geschrieben:
So I took the time to install Tidy extension and wedge it into my
code.
Now
there is one thing that is killing me and breaking all my pages.
This is what I WANT the result to be:
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/?=
$layout_id ?/css/styles.css /
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/?=
$layout_id ?/css/retina.css media=only screen and
(-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) /
Which then 'renders' out to this normally without Tidy:
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=/templates/2/css/styles.css /
link rel=stylesheet
