Re: [PHP] PHP-FPM with Apache 2.4, forward all request for all virtual host

2013-04-04 Thread Matijn Woudt
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Jose Nobile  wrote:

> But we have two process manager, in Apache with mod_fastcgi and PHP-FPM?
>
>
> Saludos,
> José Nobile
>
>
>
I'm not that familiar with PHP-FPM, but how would that be different from
your Apache 2.2 setup?


Re: [PHP] PHP-FPM with Apache 2.4, forward all request for all virtual host

2013-04-04 Thread Jose Nobile
But we have two process manager, in Apache with mod_fastcgi and PHP-FPM?


Saludos,
José Nobile


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Matijn Woudt  wrote:

>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Jose Nobile wrote:
>
>> How?
>>
>> If is required set the website path to PHP-FPM, from Apache Wiki:
>>
>> ProxyPassMatch ^/(.*\.php)$ fcgi://127.0.0.1:9000/var/www/$1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Saludos,
>> José Nobile
>>
>>
>>
> with mod_proxy_fcgi you indeed need this line in each vhost. If you don't
> want this, then you need to use something else, like mod_fastcgi or
> mod_cgid?
> mod_cgid should work out of the box, with mod_fastci you might to compile
> this version for Apache 2.4:
> https://github.com/ByteInternet/libapache-mod-fastcgi
>
> - Matijn
>


Re: [PHP] PHP-FPM with Apache 2.4, forward all request for all virtual host

2013-04-04 Thread Matijn Woudt
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Jose Nobile  wrote:

> How?
>
> If is required set the website path to PHP-FPM, from Apache Wiki:
>
> ProxyPassMatch ^/(.*\.php)$ fcgi://127.0.0.1:9000/var/www/$1
>
>
>
>
> Saludos,
> José Nobile
>
>
>
with mod_proxy_fcgi you indeed need this line in each vhost. If you don't
want this, then you need to use something else, like mod_fastcgi or
mod_cgid?
mod_cgid should work out of the box, with mod_fastci you might to compile
this version for Apache 2.4:
https://github.com/ByteInternet/libapache-mod-fastcgi

- Matijn


Re: [PHP] PHP-FPM with Apache 2.4, forward all request for all virtual host

2013-04-04 Thread Jose Nobile
How?

If is required set the website path to PHP-FPM, from Apache Wiki:

ProxyPassMatch ^/(.*\.php)$ fcgi://127.0.0.1:9000/var/www/$1




Saludos,
José Nobile


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Matijn Woudt  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Jose Nobile 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > In Apache 2.2  forward all request
> that
> > point to phisical .php file to PHP-FPM  is as
> follow:
> >
> > LoadModule fastcgi_module 
> modules/mod_fastcgi.so
> >
> > FastCGIExternalServer /usr/sbin/php-fpm -socket
> > /usr/local/php/lib/php.sock -idle-timeout 900AddHandler php-fastcgi
> > .phpAction php-fastcgi /usr/sbin/php-fpm.fcgiScriptAlias
> > /usr/sbin/php-fpm.fcgi /usr/sbin/php-fpm
> >
> >  But in Apache 2.4  is different, I'm
> > following the tutorial in Apache Wiki
> >  but
> > I don't understand as enable PHP for all virtual host, not each one.
> >
> > I search in PHP documentation, there is not mention about install on
> Apache
> > 2.4:
> >
> >- Install PHP on Apache 2.x on Unix
> > systems
> >- PHP-FPM Install <
> http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.fpm.install.php
> > >
> >- PHP-FPM Documentation 
> >
> > This question was initially posted on stackoverflow:
> >
> >
> >
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15773901/php-fpm-with-apache-2-4-forward-all-request-for-all-virtual-host
> >
> > Thank you for your help.
> >
> > Saludos,
> > José Nobile
> >
>
>
> Hi,
>
> You should follow the instructions on the Apache site, and just place all
> settings outside of the virtualhost (eg. in httpd.conf).
>
> - Matijn
>


Re: [PHP] PHP-FPM with Apache 2.4, forward all request for all virtual host

2013-04-04 Thread Matijn Woudt
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Jose Nobile  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In Apache 2.2  forward all request that
> point to phisical .php file to PHP-FPM  is as follow:
>
> LoadModule fastcgi_module  modules/mod_fastcgi.so
>
> FastCGIExternalServer /usr/sbin/php-fpm -socket
> /usr/local/php/lib/php.sock -idle-timeout 900AddHandler php-fastcgi
> .phpAction php-fastcgi /usr/sbin/php-fpm.fcgiScriptAlias
> /usr/sbin/php-fpm.fcgi /usr/sbin/php-fpm
>
>  But in Apache 2.4  is different, I'm
> following the tutorial in Apache Wiki
>  but
> I don't understand as enable PHP for all virtual host, not each one.
>
> I search in PHP documentation, there is not mention about install on Apache
> 2.4:
>
>- Install PHP on Apache 2.x on Unix
> systems
>- PHP-FPM Install  >
>- PHP-FPM Documentation 
>
> This question was initially posted on stackoverflow:
>
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15773901/php-fpm-with-apache-2-4-forward-all-request-for-all-virtual-host
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Saludos,
> José Nobile
>


Hi,

You should follow the instructions on the Apache site, and just place all
settings outside of the virtualhost (eg. in httpd.conf).

- Matijn


Re: [PHP] OAuth test server and help my slow brain understand what I'm doing.

2013-04-04 Thread Matijn Woudt
Hi,

Have you tried Google?

https://code.google.com/p/oauth-php/wiki/ConsumerHowTo
http://developer.yahoo.com/blogs/ydn/two-legged-oauth-client-server-example-7922.html

Seems both do the trick.

- Matijn


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Richard Quadling wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I've been tasked to integrate some financial data into our site. The
> provider uses a 2 legged OAuth mechanism for the security.
>
> I have my consumer key and secret and the service end point, but I'm at a
> loss to even know if I'm doing anything right.
>
> Does anyone have a script that uses 2 legged OAuth I can use to make sure
> I'm doing it right and to be able to just substitute my keys and end point
> as a test to the service I need.
>
> Alternatively, if any one has done a 2 legged OAuth using pecl/oauth, then
> please can you give me a few pointers!
>
> Any help would be great!
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard.
>


Re: [PHP] webform spam prevention

2013-04-04 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 07:29:12PM +0100, Terry Ally (Gmail) wrote:

> I am running captcha but the problem that I am having is that fly-by-night
> SEO marketeers are using the form to send marketing messages anyway. We get
> so many spam messages that I put up in red letters on the form that we do
> not want cold-calling SEO marketing messages. Since that message there has
> been a significant reduction in emails from legitimate SEO companies.

"legitimate SEO companies"

ROTFL! (Oh, sorry, did I say that out loud?)

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Re: [PHP] webform spam prevention

2013-04-04 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 19:29 +0100, Terry Ally (Gmail) wrote:

> I am running captcha but the problem that I am having is that fly-by-night
> SEO marketeers are using the form to send marketing messages anyway. We get
> so many spam messages that I put up in red letters on the form that we do
> not want cold-calling SEO marketing messages. Since that message there has
> been a significant reduction in emails from legitimate SEO companies.
> 
> However there is an upsurge in fly-by-night individuals who are all using
> Gmail addresses and originating in the USA. It seems as though someone is
> selling them a database of websites to contact.
> 
> I wish there was a way of dealing with these people who evidently cannot
> read. Is there a technological solution?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 4 April 2013 17:28, Maciek Sokolewicz  wrote:
> 
> > On 4-4-2013 14:27, tamouse mailing lists wrote:
> >
> >> On Apr 4, 2013 3:57 AM, "Ashley Sheridan" 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> One type I've seen (and use myself) which is gaining traction is that of
> >>>
> >> asking for a human type of response to a question, or have them perform a
> >> simple mathematical problem, where the numbers are replaced with something
> >> else.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Those can be great. The sticky part seems to be i18n and common user
> >> experience to answer the question, but this seem much easier to work with
> >> then throwing something horrible at your users.
> >>
> >>
> > Still, questions like "Does the sun rise in the morning or evening?" or
> > "Is the sky usually blue or red?" should be answerable by pretty much any
> > human capable of understanding at least very basic things. I'm pretty sure
> > that even if you have a severely reduced mental capacity, you can still
> > answer these types of questions. And if you can't, you usually are in the
> > wrong place anyway.
> >
> > - Tul
> >
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> >
> 
> 


They probably aren't using a paid for list but getting a list of contact
forms from a web search. I still maintain that asking some sort of
question that only a human could answer is best, and that doesn't mean a
tradition captcha like ReCaptcha. That's proved easier for bots to fill
than humans now!

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk




Re: [PHP] webform spam prevention

2013-04-04 Thread Terry Ally (Gmail)
I am running captcha but the problem that I am having is that fly-by-night
SEO marketeers are using the form to send marketing messages anyway. We get
so many spam messages that I put up in red letters on the form that we do
not want cold-calling SEO marketing messages. Since that message there has
been a significant reduction in emails from legitimate SEO companies.

However there is an upsurge in fly-by-night individuals who are all using
Gmail addresses and originating in the USA. It seems as though someone is
selling them a database of websites to contact.

I wish there was a way of dealing with these people who evidently cannot
read. Is there a technological solution?




On 4 April 2013 17:28, Maciek Sokolewicz  wrote:

> On 4-4-2013 14:27, tamouse mailing lists wrote:
>
>> On Apr 4, 2013 3:57 AM, "Ashley Sheridan" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> One type I've seen (and use myself) which is gaining traction is that of
>>>
>> asking for a human type of response to a question, or have them perform a
>> simple mathematical problem, where the numbers are replaced with something
>> else.
>>
>>>
>>>
>> Those can be great. The sticky part seems to be i18n and common user
>> experience to answer the question, but this seem much easier to work with
>> then throwing something horrible at your users.
>>
>>
> Still, questions like "Does the sun rise in the morning or evening?" or
> "Is the sky usually blue or red?" should be answerable by pretty much any
> human capable of understanding at least very basic things. I'm pretty sure
> that even if you have a severely reduced mental capacity, you can still
> answer these types of questions. And if you can't, you usually are in the
> wrong place anyway.
>
> - Tul
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Re: [PHP] webform spam prevention

2013-04-04 Thread Maciek Sokolewicz

On 4-4-2013 14:27, tamouse mailing lists wrote:

On Apr 4, 2013 3:57 AM, "Ashley Sheridan"  wrote:


One type I've seen (and use myself) which is gaining traction is that of

asking for a human type of response to a question, or have them perform a
simple mathematical problem, where the numbers are replaced with something
else.




Those can be great. The sticky part seems to be i18n and common user
experience to answer the question, but this seem much easier to work with
then throwing something horrible at your users.



Still, questions like "Does the sun rise in the morning or evening?" or 
"Is the sky usually blue or red?" should be answerable by pretty much 
any human capable of understanding at least very basic things. I'm 
pretty sure that even if you have a severely reduced mental capacity, 
you can still answer these types of questions. And if you can't, you 
usually are in the wrong place anyway.


- Tul

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[PHP] Re: Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Jim Giner
I took your script and added some stuff.  Call it "testisset.php", 
upload it and try to run it.


Script below - Please copy and run it EXACTLY as written:

";
foreach($_POST as $k=>$v)
$errmsg .= "$k is $v";
if (isset($_POST['submit']))
{
if (isset($_POST['lastname'], $_POST['lastname']))
{
echo "isset is true";
echo "Entered values are:";
		echo("First name: '" . $_POST['firstname']."' - " . 
strlen($_POST['firstname'])." chars long");
		echo("Last name: '" . $_POST['lastname']."' - " . 
strlen($_POST['lastname'])." chars long ");

echo $errmsg;
}
}
else
{
$code=<<



Data Entry Form:

  First name: 
  Last name: 
  

$errmsg


heredocs;
echo $code;
}
exit();

***
On the initial execution you should see your input form and the POST 
values will be missing (no vars at all).


Once you enter anything and hit "Submit" your will see your top two 
displays followed by the contents of the POST array which should show 
something at that time.  If not - you have a configuration problem.


Note:  While I questioned your isset test method (testing the same var 
twice?), I used it in this script just as you did.



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Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread ma...@behnke.biz


> Ninad  hat am 4. April 2013 um 13:11 geschrieben:
>
>
> yes yes I tried that also...
>
> I have restarted apache as well as my entire system also...
> again I have cleared all the cache of my browser & restarted it also.
> but I am getting same result

Could you take a look at the output of

var_dump($_POST);
var_dump($_GET);
var_dump($_REQUEST);

>
> Regards,
> Ninad.
>
> On 04/04/2013 04:41 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> > On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 16:33 +0530, Ninad wrote:
> >> I tried that already but same result ... no output...
> >>
> >>
> >> On 04/04/2013 04:32 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 13:53 +0300, Sorin Badea wrote:
> >> >> So you have a single php file with the code from the first email and the
> >> >> $_POST var is empty. Am I right ?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Ninad  >> >>     > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >  Hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am using httpd as a web server with default configuration.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> > Ninad.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 04/04/2013 04:11 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What are you using on the server for http ? nginx or apache ? can you
> >> >> > give
> >> >> > us more details about your configuration (mods, configuration,
> >> >> > htaccess ) ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >  On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ninad  >> >> >     >
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>  Hello,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks for such a fast response.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yes I tried bellow things but result is same --- no output..
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> $postdata = file_get_contents('php://input');
> >> >> >> var_dump($postdata);
> >> >> >> var_dump($_POST);
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> >> Ninad.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 04/04/2013 03:50 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> >> Did you tried a print_r($_POST) or a var_dump ?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ninad  >> >> >>     >
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Dear all,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with php 5.2.6-5 and
> >> >> >>> second one is running
> >> >> >>> fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
> >> >> >>> Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10 with php5.2
> >> >> >>> But
> >> >> >>> the same code is not working on fedora17 with php 5.4.13. After
> >> >> >>> submit I am
> >> >> >>> getting $_POST variable empty.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Please guide me in the same.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>  >> >> >>> if (isset($_POST['lastname'], $_POST['lastname']))
> >> >> >>> {
> >> >> >>>echo("First name: " . $_POST['firstname'] . "\n");
> >> >> >>>echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
> >> >> >>> }
> >> >> >>> ?>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>>First name: 
> >> >> >>>Last name: 
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Thanks & Regards,
> >> >> >>> Ninad.
> >> >> >>>
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> >> >> >>>
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> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> Badea Sorin (unu.sorin)
> >> >> >>sorin.bade...@gmail.com  
> >> >> >>  
> >> >> >>unu_so...@yahoo.com  
> >> >> >>  
> >> >> >> Pagina personala:
> >> >> >>http://badeasorin.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >  --
> >> >> > Badea Sorin (unu.sorin)
> >> >> >sorin.bade...@gmail.com  
> >> >> >  
> >> >> >unu_so...@yahoo.com  
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > Pagina personala:
> >> >> >http://badeasorin.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I've noticed the first line looks a little odd. It might be valid,
> >> > just probably not the way I've ever done it. For my own sanity, could
> >> > you try changing it to:
> >> >
> >> > if (isset($_POST['lastname']) && isset($_POST['lastname']))
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Ash
> >> >http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> > This is really starting to sound like some sort of weird bug
> > somewhere. I know this is the typical IT response, but have you tried
> > restarting Apache? Also, this shouldn't happen, but try restarting
> > your browser too. Maybe it's exhibiting some strange cache bug.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ash
> > http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
> >
> >
>

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Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread ma...@behnke.biz


> Ashley Sheridan  hat am 4. April 2013 um 13:02
> geschrieben:

>
> I've noticed the first line looks a little odd. It might be valid, just
> probably not the way I've ever done it. For my own sanity, could you try
> changing it to:
>
> if (isset($_POST['lastname']) && isset($_POST['lastname']))
>

No, this is totally valid to check if all values are set

> If multiple parameters are supplied then isset() will return TRUE only if all
> of the parameters are set. Evaluation goes from left to right and stops as
> soon as an unset variable is encountered.

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Re: [PHP] PHP-FPM with Apache 2.4, forward all request for all virtual host

2013-04-04 Thread Jose Nobile
Hello, I wrote the question differently:

How to redirect requests for .php files to PHP-FPM for all virtual hosts in
Apache 
2.4?

Thank you for your help.


Saludos,
José Nobile


On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Jose Antonio Nobile Rendon <
jose.nob...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How to forward all request to files .php of any virtual host to
> PHP-FPM in Apache 2.4? Not each one.
>
> Saludos,
> Jose Nobile
> -Mensaje original-
> De: tamouse mailing lists
> Enviado:  03/04/2013, 6:35  PM
> Para: Jose Nobile
> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
> Asunto: Re: [PHP] PHP-FPM with Apache 2.4, forward all request for all
> virtual host
>
>
> Sorry, in all of that, I don't see what the question is?
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Jose Nobile  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > In Apache 2.2  forward all request
> that
> > point to phisical .php file to PHP-FPM  is as
> follow:
> >
> > LoadModule fastcgi_module 
> modules/mod_fastcgi.so
> >
> > FastCGIExternalServer /usr/sbin/php-fpm -socket
> > /usr/local/php/lib/php.sock -idle-timeout 900AddHandler php-fastcgi
> > .phpAction php-fastcgi /usr/sbin/php-fpm.fcgiScriptAlias
> > /usr/sbin/php-fpm.fcgi /usr/sbin/php-fpm
> >
> >  But in Apache 2.4  is different, I'm
> > following the tutorial in Apache Wiki
> >  but
> > I don't understand as enable PHP for all virtual host, not each one.
> >
> > I search in PHP documentation, there is not mention about install on
> Apache
> > 2.4:
> >
> >- Install PHP on Apache 2.x on Unix
> > systems
> >- PHP-FPM Install <
> http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.fpm.install.php>
> >- PHP-FPM Documentation 
> >
> > This question was initially posted on stackoverflow:
> >
> >
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15773901/php-fpm-with-apache-2-4-forward-all-request-for-all-virtual-host
> >
> > Thank you for your help.
> >
> > Saludos,
> > José Nobile
>


[PHP] OAuth test server and help my slow brain understand what I'm doing.

2013-04-04 Thread Richard Quadling
Hi.

I've been tasked to integrate some financial data into our site. The
provider uses a 2 legged OAuth mechanism for the security.

I have my consumer key and secret and the service end point, but I'm at a
loss to even know if I'm doing anything right.

Does anyone have a script that uses 2 legged OAuth I can use to make sure
I'm doing it right and to be able to just substitute my keys and end point
as a test to the service I need.

Alternatively, if any one has done a 2 legged OAuth using pecl/oauth, then
please can you give me a few pointers!

Any help would be great!

Regards,

Richard.


Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Jim Giner

On 4/4/2013 7:02 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:





I've noticed the first line looks a little odd. It might be valid, just
probably not the way I've ever done it. For my own sanity, could you try
changing it to:

if (isset($_POST['lastname']) && isset($_POST['lastname']))

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk



Even more odd is that the statement is checking the SAME variable twice. 
 Why?


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Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Carsten Jensen

On 04/04/2013 01:19 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:

On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 16:41 +0530, Ninad wrote:

Have you tried a different browser? Just thinking of anything which 
might narrow down the location of the problem. Thanks, Ash 
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk 


does PHP work at all?

what do you get any output of (create this file with the content)

info.php






Re: [PHP] webform spam prevention

2013-04-04 Thread tamouse mailing lists
On Apr 4, 2013 3:57 AM, "Ashley Sheridan"  wrote:
>
> Captchas are not very accessible. Not only do you often need a near
super-human ability to identify the scrawl that's displayed, but if you
can't actually see very well to start with (maybe your vision isn't perfect
or you can't see at all) then you have to fall back to the audio
replacement offered by the captcha. I've tried listening to some, and they
are awful.

That is the premise behind what the folks at textcaptcha are doing, going
so far as to question the need for captcha itself

>
> One type I've seen (and use myself) which is gaining traction is that of
asking for a human type of response to a question, or have them perform a
simple mathematical problem, where the numbers are replaced with something
else.
>

Those can be great. The sticky part seems to be i18n and common user
experience to answer the question, but this seem much easier to work with
then throwing something horrible at your users.

> Thanks,
> Ash
> http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>
>


Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Ninad


yes I tried on Firefox 3.5 & firefox 19 & chrome.



On 04/04/2013 04:49 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:

On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 16:41 +0530, Ninad wrote:

yes yes I tried that also...

I have restarted apache as well as my entire system also...
again I have cleared all the cache of my browser & restarted it also.
but I am getting same result

Regards,
Ninad.

On 04/04/2013 04:41 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 16:33 +0530, Ninad wrote:
>> I tried that already but same result ... no output...
>>
>>
>> On 04/04/2013 04:32 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 13:53 +0300, Sorin Badea wrote:
>> >> So you have a single php file with the code from the first email and the
>> >> $_POST var is empty. Am I right ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Ninad mailto:ninadsh...@iitb.ac.in>      
> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >  Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > I am using httpd as a web server with default configuration.
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Ninad.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 04/04/2013 04:11 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > What are you using on the server for http ? nginx or apache ? can you 
give
>> >> > us more details about your configuration (mods, configuration, htaccess 
) ?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >  On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ninad mailto:ninadsh...@iitb.ac.in>      > 
wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>  Hello,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for such a fast response.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes I tried bellow things but result is same --- no output..
>> >> >>
>> >> >> $postdata = file_get_contents('php://input');
>> >> >> var_dump($postdata);
>> >> >> var_dump($_POST);
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Ninad.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 04/04/2013 03:50 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >> Did you tried a print_r($_POST) or a var_dump ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ninad mailto:ninadsh...@iitb.ac.in>      > 
wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Dear all,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with php 5.2.6-5 and
>> >> >>> second one is running
>> >> >>> fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
>> >> >>> Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10 with php5.2 
But
>> >> >>> the same code is not working on fedora17 with php 5.4.13. After 
submit I am
>> >> >>> getting $_POST variable empty.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Please guide me in the same.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> > >> >>> if (isset($_POST['lastname'], $_POST['lastname']))
>> >> >>> {
>> >> >>>echo("First name: " . $_POST['firstname'] . "\n");
>> >> >>>echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
>> >> >>> }
>> >> >>> ?>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>>First name: 
>> >> >>>Last name: 
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks & Regards,
>> >> >>> Ninad.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
>> >> >>> To unsubscribe, visit:http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  --
>> >> >> Badea Sorin (unu.sorin)
>> >> >>sorin.bade...@gmail.com     
   
>> >> >>unu_so...@yahoo.com     
   
>> >> >> Pagina personala:
>> >> >>http://badeasorin.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >  --
>> >> > Badea Sorin (unu.sorin)
>> >> >sorin.bade...@gmail.com     
   
>> >> >unu_so...@yahoo.com     
   
>> >> > Pagina personala:
>> >> >http://badeasorin.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > I've noticed the first line looks a little odd. It might be valid,
>> > just probably not the way I've ever done it. For my own sanity, could
>> > you try changing it to:
>> >
>> > if (isset($_POST['lastname']) && isset($_POST['lastname']))
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Ash
>> >http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>> >
>> >
>>
>
> This is really starting to sound like some sort of weird bug
> somewhere. I know this is the typical IT response, but have you tried
> restarting Apache? Also, this shouldn't happen, but try restarting
> your browser too. Maybe it's exhibiting some strange cache bug.
>
> Thanks,
> Ash
>http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>
>



Have you tried a different browser? Just thinking of anything which 
might narrow down the location of the problem.


Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk






Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 16:41 +0530, Ninad wrote:

> yes yes I tried that also...
> 
> I have restarted apache as well as my entire system also...
> again I have cleared all the cache of my browser & restarted it also.
> but I am getting same result
> 
> Regards,
> Ninad.
> 
> On 04/04/2013 04:41 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> > On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 16:33 +0530, Ninad wrote:
> >> I tried that already but same result ... no output...
> >>
> >>
> >> On 04/04/2013 04:32 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 13:53 +0300, Sorin Badea wrote:
> >> >> So you have a single php file with the code from the first email and the
> >> >> $_POST var is empty. Am I right ?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Ninad  >> >>    > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >  Hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am using httpd as a web server with default configuration.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> > Ninad.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 04/04/2013 04:11 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What are you using on the server for http ? nginx or apache ? can you 
> >> >> > give
> >> >> > us more details about your configuration (mods, configuration, 
> >> >> > htaccess ) ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >  On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ninad  >> >> >    > 
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>  Hello,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks for such a fast response.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yes I tried bellow things but result is same --- no output..
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> $postdata = file_get_contents('php://input');
> >> >> >> var_dump($postdata);
> >> >> >> var_dump($_POST);
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> >> Ninad.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 04/04/2013 03:50 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> >> Did you tried a print_r($_POST) or a var_dump ?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ninad  >> >> >>    > 
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Dear all,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with php 5.2.6-5 and
> >> >> >>> second one is running
> >> >> >>> fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
> >> >> >>> Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10 with php5.2 
> >> >> >>> But
> >> >> >>> the same code is not working on fedora17 with php 5.4.13. After 
> >> >> >>> submit I am
> >> >> >>> getting $_POST variable empty.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Please guide me in the same.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>  >> >> >>> if (isset($_POST['lastname'], $_POST['lastname']))
> >> >> >>> {
> >> >> >>>echo("First name: " . $_POST['firstname'] . "\n");
> >> >> >>>echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
> >> >> >>> }
> >> >> >>> ?>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>>First name: 
> >> >> >>>Last name: 
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Thanks & Regards,
> >> >> >>> Ninad.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> --
> >> >> >>> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
> >> >> >>> To unsubscribe, visit:http://www.php.net/unsub.php
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>  --
> >> >> >> Badea Sorin (unu.sorin)
> >> >> >>sorin.bade...@gmail.com     
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>unu_so...@yahoo.com     
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Pagina personala:
> >> >> >>http://badeasorin.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >  --
> >> >> > Badea Sorin (unu.sorin)
> >> >> >sorin.bade...@gmail.com     
> >> >> >
> >> >> >unu_so...@yahoo.com     
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Pagina personala:
> >> >> >http://badeasorin.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I've noticed the first line looks a little odd. It might be valid,
> >> > just probably not the way I've ever done it. For my own sanity, could
> >> > you try changing it to:
> >> >
> >> > if (isset($_POST['lastname']) && isset($_POST['lastname']))
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Ash
> >> >http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> > This is really starting to sound like some sort of weird bug 
> > somewhere. I know this is the typical IT response, but have you tried 
> > restarting Apache? Also, this shouldn't happen, but try restarting 
> > your browser too. Maybe it's exhibiting some strange cache bug.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ash
> > http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
> >
> >
> 


Have you tried a different browser? Just thinking of anything which
might narrow down the location of the problem.

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk




Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Ninad

yes yes I tried that also...

I have restarted apache as well as my entire system also...
again I have cleared all the cache of my browser & restarted it also.
but I am getting same result

Regards,
Ninad.

On 04/04/2013 04:41 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:

On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 16:33 +0530, Ninad wrote:

I tried that already but same result ... no output...


On 04/04/2013 04:32 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 13:53 +0300, Sorin Badea wrote:
>> So you have a single php file with the code from the first email and the
>> $_POST var is empty. Am I right ?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Ninad mailto:ninadsh...@iitb.ac.in>   > wrote:
>>
>> >  Hi,
>> >
>> > I am using httpd as a web server with default configuration.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Ninad.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 04/04/2013 04:11 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
>> >
>> > What are you using on the server for http ? nginx or apache ? can you give
>> > us more details about your configuration (mods, configuration, htaccess ) ?
>> >
>> >
>> >  On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ninad mailto:ninadsh...@iitb.ac.in>   > wrote:
>> >
>> >>  Hello,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for such a fast response.
>> >>
>> >> Yes I tried bellow things but result is same --- no output..
>> >>
>> >> $postdata = file_get_contents('php://input');
>> >> var_dump($postdata);
>> >> var_dump($_POST);
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Ninad.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 04/04/2013 03:50 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >> Did you tried a print_r($_POST) or a var_dump ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ninad mailto:ninadsh...@iitb.ac.in>   > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Dear all,
>> >>>
>> >>> I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with php 5.2.6-5 and
>> >>> second one is running
>> >>> fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
>> >>> Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10 with php5.2 But
>> >>> the same code is not working on fedora17 with php 5.4.13. After submit I 
am
>> >>> getting $_POST variable empty.
>> >>>
>> >>> Please guide me in the same.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> > >>> if (isset($_POST['lastname'], $_POST['lastname']))
>> >>> {
>> >>>echo("First name: " . $_POST['firstname'] . "\n");
>> >>>echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
>> >>> }
>> >>> ?>
>> >>>
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>>First name: 
>> >>>Last name: 
>> >>>
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks & Regards,
>> >>> Ninad.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
>> >>> To unsubscribe, visit:http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  --
>> >> Badea Sorin (unu.sorin)
>> >>sorin.bade...@gmail.com     

>> >>unu_so...@yahoo.com     

>> >> Pagina personala:
>> >>http://badeasorin.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >  --
>> > Badea Sorin (unu.sorin)
>> >sorin.bade...@gmail.com     

>> >unu_so...@yahoo.com     

>> > Pagina personala:
>> >http://badeasorin.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
> I've noticed the first line looks a little odd. It might be valid,
> just probably not the way I've ever done it. For my own sanity, could
> you try changing it to:
>
> if (isset($_POST['lastname']) && isset($_POST['lastname']))
>
> Thanks,
> Ash
>http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>
>



This is really starting to sound like some sort of weird bug 
somewhere. I know this is the typical IT response, but have you tried 
restarting Apache? Also, this shouldn't happen, but try restarting 
your browser too. Maybe it's exhibiting some strange cache bug.


Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk






Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Sorin Badea
I've tried the same code on a instance with fedora 17 and php 5.4.13. It 
seems to work fine. Can you provide us a link with the url to your page ?


On 04/04/2013 01:59 PM, Ninad wrote:


yes you are right



On 04/04/2013 04:23 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
So you have a single php file with the code from the first email and 
the $_POST var is empty. Am I right ?



On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Ninad > wrote:


Hi,

I am using httpd as a web server with default configuration.

Regards,
Ninad.


On 04/04/2013 04:11 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:

What are you using on the server for http ? nginx or apache ?
can you give us more details about your configuration (mods,
configuration, htaccess ) ?


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ninad mailto:ninadsh...@iitb.ac.in>> wrote:

Hello,

Thanks for such a fast response.

Yes I tried bellow things but result is same --- no output..

$postdata = file_get_contents('php://input');
var_dump($postdata);
var_dump($_POST);

Regards,
Ninad.


On 04/04/2013 03:50 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:

Hi,
Did you tried a print_r($_POST) or a var_dump ?


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ninad
mailto:ninadsh...@iitb.ac.in>> wrote:

Dear all,

I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with
php 5.2.6-5 and second one is running
fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10
with php5.2 But the same code is not working on
fedora17 with php 5.4.13. After submit I am getting
$_POST variable empty.

Please guide me in the same.


\n");
   echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
}
?>






   First name: 
   Last name: 
   





Thanks & Regards,
Ninad.

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To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php




-- 
Badea Sorin (unu.sorin)

sorin.bade...@gmail.com 
unu_so...@yahoo.com 
Pagina personala:
http://badeasorin.com





-- 
Badea Sorin (unu.sorin)

sorin.bade...@gmail.com 
unu_so...@yahoo.com 
Pagina personala:
http://badeasorin.com





--
Badea Sorin (unu.sorin)
sorin.bade...@gmail.com 
unu_so...@yahoo.com 
Pagina personala:
http://badeasorin.com






Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 16:33 +0530, Ninad wrote:

> I tried that already but same result ... no output...
> 
> 
> On 04/04/2013 04:32 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> > On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 13:53 +0300, Sorin Badea wrote:
> >> So you have a single php file with the code from the first email and the
> >> $_POST var is empty. Am I right ?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Ninad  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >  Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I am using httpd as a web server with default configuration.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Ninad.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 04/04/2013 04:11 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
> >> >
> >> > What are you using on the server for http ? nginx or apache ? can you 
> >> > give
> >> > us more details about your configuration (mods, configuration, htaccess 
> >> > ) ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >  On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ninad  >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>  Hello,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for such a fast response.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes I tried bellow things but result is same --- no output..
> >> >>
> >> >> $postdata = file_get_contents('php://input');
> >> >> var_dump($postdata);
> >> >> var_dump($_POST);
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Ninad.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 04/04/2013 03:50 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> Did you tried a print_r($_POST) or a var_dump ?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ninad  >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Dear all,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with php 5.2.6-5 and
> >> >>> second one is running
> >> >>> fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
> >> >>> Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10 with php5.2 But
> >> >>> the same code is not working on fedora17 with php 5.4.13. After submit 
> >> >>> I am
> >> >>> getting $_POST variable empty.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Please guide me in the same.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>  >> >>> if (isset($_POST['lastname'], $_POST['lastname']))
> >> >>> {
> >> >>>echo("First name: " . $_POST['firstname'] . "\n");
> >> >>>echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
> >> >>> }
> >> >>> ?>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>>First name: 
> >> >>>Last name: 
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks & Regards,
> >> >>> Ninad.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
> >> >>> To unsubscribe, visit:http://www.php.net/unsub.php
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  --
> >> >> Badea Sorin (unu.sorin)
> >> >>sorin.bade...@gmail.com  
> >> >>unu_so...@yahoo.com  
> >> >> Pagina personala:
> >> >>http://badeasorin.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >  --
> >> > Badea Sorin (unu.sorin)
> >> >sorin.bade...@gmail.com  
> >> >unu_so...@yahoo.com  
> >> > Pagina personala:
> >> >http://badeasorin.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I've noticed the first line looks a little odd. It might be valid, 
> > just probably not the way I've ever done it. For my own sanity, could 
> > you try changing it to:
> >
> > if (isset($_POST['lastname']) && isset($_POST['lastname']))
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ash
> > http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
> >
> >
> 


This is really starting to sound like some sort of weird bug somewhere.
I know this is the typical IT response, but have you tried restarting
Apache? Also, this shouldn't happen, but try restarting your browser
too. Maybe it's exhibiting some strange cache bug.

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk




Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Ninad


I tried that already but same result ... no output...


On 04/04/2013 04:32 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:

On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 13:53 +0300, Sorin Badea wrote:

So you have a single php file with the code from the first email and the
$_POST var is empty. Am I right ?


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Ninad mailto:ninadsh...@iitb.ac.in>> wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> I am using httpd as a web server with default configuration.
>
> Regards,
> Ninad.
>
>
> On 04/04/2013 04:11 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
>
> What are you using on the server for http ? nginx or apache ? can you give
> us more details about your configuration (mods, configuration, htaccess ) ?
>
>
>  On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ninad mailto:ninadsh...@iitb.ac.in>> wrote:
>
>>  Hello,
>>
>> Thanks for such a fast response.
>>
>> Yes I tried bellow things but result is same --- no output..
>>
>> $postdata = file_get_contents('php://input');
>> var_dump($postdata);
>> var_dump($_POST);
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ninad.
>>
>>
>> On 04/04/2013 03:50 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Did you tried a print_r($_POST) or a var_dump ?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ninad mailto:ninadsh...@iitb.ac.in>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with php 5.2.6-5 and
>>> second one is running
>>> fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
>>> Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10 with php5.2 But
>>> the same code is not working on fedora17 with php 5.4.13. After submit I am
>>> getting $_POST variable empty.
>>>
>>> Please guide me in the same.
>>>
>>>
>>> >> if (isset($_POST['lastname'], $_POST['lastname']))
>>> {
>>>echo("First name: " . $_POST['firstname'] . "\n");
>>>echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
>>> }
>>> ?>
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>First name: 
>>>Last name: 
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>> Ninad.
>>>
>>> --
>>> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
>>> To unsubscribe, visit:http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>> Badea Sorin (unu.sorin)
>>sorin.bade...@gmail.com  
>>unu_so...@yahoo.com  
>> Pagina personala:
>>http://badeasorin.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>  --
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I've noticed the first line looks a little odd. It might be valid, 
just probably not the way I've ever done it. For my own sanity, could 
you try changing it to:


if (isset($_POST['lastname']) && isset($_POST['lastname']))

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk






Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Ninad


yes you are right



On 04/04/2013 04:23 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
So you have a single php file with the code from the first email and 
the $_POST var is empty. Am I right ?



On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Ninad > wrote:


Hi,

I am using httpd as a web server with default configuration.

Regards,
Ninad.


On 04/04/2013 04:11 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:

What are you using on the server for http ? nginx or apache ? can
you give us more details about your configuration (mods,
configuration, htaccess ) ?


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ninad mailto:ninadsh...@iitb.ac.in>> wrote:

Hello,

Thanks for such a fast response.

Yes I tried bellow things but result is same --- no output..

$postdata = file_get_contents('php://input');
var_dump($postdata);
var_dump($_POST);

Regards,
Ninad.


On 04/04/2013 03:50 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:

Hi,
Did you tried a print_r($_POST) or a var_dump ?


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ninad mailto:ninadsh...@iitb.ac.in>> wrote:

Dear all,

I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with php
5.2.6-5 and second one is running
fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10
with php5.2 But the same code is not working on fedora17
with php 5.4.13. After submit I am getting $_POST
variable empty.

Please guide me in the same.


\n");
   echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
}
?>






   First name: 
   Last name: 
   





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Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 13:53 +0300, Sorin Badea wrote:

> So you have a single php file with the code from the first email and the
> $_POST var is empty. Am I right ?
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Ninad  wrote:
> 
> >  Hi,
> >
> > I am using httpd as a web server with default configuration.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ninad.
> >
> >
> > On 04/04/2013 04:11 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
> >
> > What are you using on the server for http ? nginx or apache ? can you give
> > us more details about your configuration (mods, configuration, htaccess ) ?
> >
> >
> >  On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ninad  wrote:
> >
> >>  Hello,
> >>
> >> Thanks for such a fast response.
> >>
> >> Yes I tried bellow things but result is same --- no output..
> >>
> >> $postdata = file_get_contents('php://input');
> >> var_dump($postdata);
> >> var_dump($_POST);
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ninad.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 04/04/2013 03:50 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> Did you tried a print_r($_POST) or a var_dump ?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ninad  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>> I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with php 5.2.6-5 and
> >>> second one is running
> >>> fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
> >>> Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10 with php5.2 But
> >>> the same code is not working on fedora17 with php 5.4.13. After submit I 
> >>> am
> >>> getting $_POST variable empty.
> >>>
> >>> Please guide me in the same.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  >>> if (isset($_POST['lastname'], $_POST['lastname']))
> >>> {
> >>>echo("First name: " . $_POST['firstname'] . "\n");
> >>>echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
> >>> }
> >>> ?>
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>First name: 
> >>>Last name: 
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks & Regards,
> >>> Ninad.
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> 
> 


I've noticed the first line looks a little odd. It might be valid, just
probably not the way I've ever done it. For my own sanity, could you try
changing it to:

if (isset($_POST['lastname']) && isset($_POST['lastname']))

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk




Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Sorin Badea
So you have a single php file with the code from the first email and the
$_POST var is empty. Am I right ?


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Ninad  wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> I am using httpd as a web server with default configuration.
>
> Regards,
> Ninad.
>
>
> On 04/04/2013 04:11 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
>
> What are you using on the server for http ? nginx or apache ? can you give
> us more details about your configuration (mods, configuration, htaccess ) ?
>
>
>  On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ninad  wrote:
>
>>  Hello,
>>
>> Thanks for such a fast response.
>>
>> Yes I tried bellow things but result is same --- no output..
>>
>> $postdata = file_get_contents('php://input');
>> var_dump($postdata);
>> var_dump($_POST);
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ninad.
>>
>>
>> On 04/04/2013 03:50 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Did you tried a print_r($_POST) or a var_dump ?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ninad  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with php 5.2.6-5 and
>>> second one is running
>>> fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
>>> Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10 with php5.2 But
>>> the same code is not working on fedora17 with php 5.4.13. After submit I am
>>> getting $_POST variable empty.
>>>
>>> Please guide me in the same.
>>>
>>>
>>> >> if (isset($_POST['lastname'], $_POST['lastname']))
>>> {
>>>echo("First name: " . $_POST['firstname'] . "\n");
>>>echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
>>> }
>>> ?>
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>First name: 
>>>Last name: 
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>> Ninad.
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Ninad


Hi,

I tried using Firebug & got below response.

Parametersapplication/x-www-form-urlencoded
firstname   |test|
lastname|111|
submit  |Submit|

Source
|firstname=test&lastname=111&submit=Submit|



Regards,
Ninad

On 04/04/2013 04:14 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:

On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 15:55 +0530, Ninad wrote:

Hello,

Thanks for such a fast response.

Yes I tried bellow things but result is same --- no output..

$postdata = file_get_contents('php://input');
var_dump($postdata);
var_dump($_POST);

Regards,
Ninad.

On 04/04/2013 03:50 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
> Hi,
> Did you tried a print_r($_POST) or a var_dump ?
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ninad mailto:ninadsh...@iitb.ac.in>  
> > wrote:

>
> Dear all,
>
> I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with php 5.2.6-5
> and second one is running
> fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
> Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10 with
> php5.2 But the same code is not working on fedora17 with php
> 5.4.13. After submit I am getting $_POST variable empty.
>
> Please guide me in the same.
>
>
>  if (isset($_POST['lastname'], $_POST['lastname']))
> {
>echo("First name: " . $_POST['firstname'] . "\n");
>echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
> }
> ?>
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>First name: 
>Last name: 
>
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Ninad.
>
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>
>
>
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Have you used the network inspector of your browser to see if what you 
think is being sent is really being sent? Firefox and Chrome come with 
these tools built in now.


Thanks,
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Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Ninad

Hi,

I am using httpd as a web server with default configuration.

Regards,
Ninad.

On 04/04/2013 04:11 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
What are you using on the server for http ? nginx or apache ? can you 
give us more details about your configuration (mods, configuration, 
htaccess ) ?



On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ninad > wrote:


Hello,

Thanks for such a fast response.

Yes I tried bellow things but result is same --- no output..

$postdata = file_get_contents('php://input');
var_dump($postdata);
var_dump($_POST);

Regards,
Ninad.


On 04/04/2013 03:50 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:

Hi,
Did you tried a print_r($_POST) or a var_dump ?


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ninad mailto:ninadsh...@iitb.ac.in>> wrote:

Dear all,

I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with php
5.2.6-5 and second one is running
fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10 with
php5.2 But the same code is not working on fedora17 with php
5.4.13. After submit I am getting $_POST variable empty.

Please guide me in the same.


\n");
   echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
}
?>






   First name: 
   Last name: 
   





Thanks & Regards,
Ninad.

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Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Sorin Badea
What are you using on the server for http ? nginx or apache ? can you give
us more details about your configuration (mods, configuration, htaccess ) ?


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ninad  wrote:

>  Hello,
>
> Thanks for such a fast response.
>
> Yes I tried bellow things but result is same --- no output..
>
> $postdata = file_get_contents('php://input');
> var_dump($postdata);
> var_dump($_POST);
>
> Regards,
> Ninad.
>
>
> On 04/04/2013 03:50 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Did you tried a print_r($_POST) or a var_dump ?
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ninad  wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with php 5.2.6-5 and
>> second one is running
>> fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
>> Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10 with php5.2 But
>> the same code is not working on fedora17 with php 5.4.13. After submit I am
>> getting $_POST variable empty.
>>
>> Please guide me in the same.
>>
>>
>> > if (isset($_POST['lastname'], $_POST['lastname']))
>> {
>>echo("First name: " . $_POST['firstname'] . "\n");
>>echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
>> }
>> ?>
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>First name: 
>>Last name: 
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> Thanks & Regards,
>> Ninad.
>>
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Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 15:55 +0530, Ninad wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Thanks for such a fast response.
> 
> Yes I tried bellow things but result is same --- no output..
> 
> $postdata = file_get_contents('php://input');
> var_dump($postdata);
> var_dump($_POST);
> 
> Regards,
> Ninad.
> 
> On 04/04/2013 03:50 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Did you tried a print_r($_POST) or a var_dump ?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ninad  > > wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with php 5.2.6-5
> > and second one is running
> > fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
> > Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10 with
> > php5.2 But the same code is not working on fedora17 with php
> > 5.4.13. After submit I am getting $_POST variable empty.
> >
> > Please guide me in the same.
> >
> >
> >  > if (isset($_POST['lastname'], $_POST['lastname']))
> > {
> >echo("First name: " . $_POST['firstname'] . "\n");
> >echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
> > }
> > ?>
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >First name: 
> >Last name: 
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> >
> > Thanks & Regards,
> > Ninad.
> >
> > -- 
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> >
> >
> >
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> > http://badeasorin.com
> 


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these tools built in now.

Thanks,
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Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Ninad

Hello,

Thanks for such a fast response.

Yes I tried bellow things but result is same --- no output..

$postdata = file_get_contents('php://input');
var_dump($postdata);
var_dump($_POST);

Regards,
Ninad.

On 04/04/2013 03:50 PM, Sorin Badea wrote:

Hi,
Did you tried a print_r($_POST) or a var_dump ?


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ninad > wrote:


Dear all,

I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with php 5.2.6-5
and second one is running
fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10 with
php5.2 But the same code is not working on fedora17 with php
5.4.13. After submit I am getting $_POST variable empty.

Please guide me in the same.


\n");
   echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
}
?>






   First name: 
   Last name: 
   





Thanks & Regards,
Ninad.

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Re: [PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Sorin Badea
Hi,
Did you tried a print_r($_POST) or a var_dump ?


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ninad  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with php 5.2.6-5 and
> second one is running
> fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
> Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10 with php5.2 But
> the same code is not working on fedora17 with php 5.4.13. After submit I am
> getting $_POST variable empty.
>
> Please guide me in the same.
>
>
>  if (isset($_POST['lastname'], $_POST['lastname']))
> {
>echo("First name: " . $_POST['firstname'] . "\n");
>echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
> }
> ?>
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>First name: 
>Last name: 
>
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Ninad.
>
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[PHP] Empty $_POST after submit.

2013-04-04 Thread Ninad

Dear all,

I am having 2 servers. One is running fedora 10 with php 5.2.6-5 and 
second one is running

fedora17 with php 5.4.13.
Below given code is working absolutely fine on fedora10 with php5.2 But 
the same code is not working on fedora17 with php 5.4.13. After submit I 
am getting $_POST variable empty.


Please guide me in the same.


\n");
   echo("Last name: " . $_POST['lastname'] . "\n");
}
?>






   First name: 
   Last name: 
   





Thanks & Regards,
Ninad.

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Re: [PHP] webform spam prevention

2013-04-04 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Wed, 2013-04-03 at 20:32 -0500, tamouse mailing lists wrote:

> I'd love to learn how to do that WITHOUT A MOUSE
> 
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:10 PM, jomali  wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 7:33 PM, tamouse mailing lists
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> These folks might have direction for you: http://textcaptcha.com/really
> >>
> >> (And my apologies for top posting. It seems Google has forced their
> >> new mail compose widget upon me. I can no longer use my own editor to
> >> smoothly and easily edit message, and Google forces the top post.)
> >
> >
> > Actually, it doesn't, as I show below.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Jen Rasmussen 
> >> wrote:
> >> > Can someone recommend a best practice for blocking spam on web forms
> >> > (aside
> >> > from captcha) ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I've been for the most part utilizing a honeypot method and then
> >> > individually blocking IPs and am looking for a more efficient method
> >> > that
> >> > won't require daily maintenance.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I've come across this module: http://spam-ip.com/phpnuke-spam-module.php
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone used this method or have any other better suggestions?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Jen Rasmussen
> >> >
> >> > Web Development Manager | Cetacea Sound Corp.
> >> >
> >> > 763-225-8465 | www.cetaceasound.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > P Before printing this message, make sure that it's necessary. The
> >> > environment is in your hands
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> > Actually, it doesn't. All you have to do is scroll to the bottom and add
> > your material.
> 


Captchas are not very accessible. Not only do you often need a near
super-human ability to identify the scrawl that's displayed, but if you
can't actually see very well to start with (maybe your vision isn't
perfect or you can't see at all) then you have to fall back to the audio
replacement offered by the captcha. I've tried listening to some, and
they are awful.

One type I've seen (and use myself) which is gaining traction is that of
asking for a human type of response to a question, or have them perform
a simple mathematical problem, where the numbers are replaced with
something else.

Thanks,
Ash
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