ealth - http://centerstone.org/
Med Center Today - http://medcentertoday.com/
Caste Contractors - http://castlecontractors.com/
Filmhouse.com - http://filmhouse.com/
EZsweeps - http://ezsweeps.com/
LuckyShop - http://ezsweeps.com/shoppingnew.php
> Maybe you like RoR more because you suck at PHP.
Maybe you're a fucking retard.
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PHP. OO
was the main idea from the very start with Ruby. As a result Ruby's
OO model makes PHP's OO model look like a steaming pile of shit out in
the pasture. Hell, Perl's OO even makes PHP's OO look bad
syntax-wise.
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able to work with the community.
So if I can't work with the community Rails effectively, Rails will
not get better? I seriously can't follow your ramblings.
> I will admit that the PHP
> Internals list can get pretty heated as well, but those arguments are
> usually b
On 3/13/08, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Because PHP is the dog and Ruby is the cat?
Yeah, I guess. I have several cats. Indeed they are fast, sleek, and
smart just like Ruby.
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so whipping up a
new model or controller is really fast. It really is awesome. :)
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evil-good.shtml
Looks pretty stupid to me.. what does a dog humping a cat have to do
with anything in technology? Please keep your animal pr0n to
yourself.
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On 3/12/08, Dave Goodchild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Will you two pricks cut it out. How fucking tedious.
Tedious? Sorry.
/me passes the "buddhamagnet" a dictionary so he can keep up.
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On 3/12/08, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're new around here right?
Hehe. For sure.
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novation.
> Do more with less.
Well that sure as hell ain't PHP. ROFL. More with less, using PHP, hilarious.
/me points to SPL and laughs his ass off
> That SHOULD be part of any developers mandate... but
> not blindly.
If by blindly you mean fun, fast, test-driven, producti
On 3/12/08, Aschwin Wesselius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -5 for not keeping this kind of childish behavior of the list (both of you)
Playing the game by claiming the game is wrong to play is still
playing the game.
-1 for playing the game hypocritically.
-1 for thinking -5 exists.
.
-1 for thinking +2 exists.
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ils, I didn't
understand some of it, therefore Ruby sucks?" That's not reasoning
and it certainly doesn't gain one any experience, unless laziness
recently became a virtue.
> get over yourself.
You first.
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On 3/12/08, Aschwin Wesselius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I'm after is a framework that is simple, solid, compact and
> flexible enough to extend by myself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_application_frameworks#Comparison_of_features
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On 3/12/08, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm sorry, I lost context, what missing PHP language feature are you
> > referring to as "it"?
>
> functional capabiliti
ve auto
might think such a thing impossible if they were unaware of 4-wheel
drive.
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On 3/12/08, Zoltán Németh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can't really think of a
> case where I would want to modify the class definition of an
> instantiated object
You can't very well think to walk if you don't have legs.
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e, nor does it support adding methods to instantiated objects of
those classes at runtime. And that's just one example. These sort of
OO advantages exist throughout Ruby.
You don't love these features because you don't know they exist. You
don't know they exist because
27;s a dead-on, same example, just with a different programming
language and a different language feature.
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ery well is just plain
dumb. I'm sorry you don't get it and I'm done trying to help you get
it. Good luck codling your lesser developers. May they never learn
jack on their own.
*sigh*
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have thousands of lines of Ruby code under my
belt that allows me to properly develop an opinion of Ruby and Rails
and how they both compare to every other programming language and
framework I know and have developed in. Need a URL?
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t the entire development team from using a given feature
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newbie developer up to spead? That's pure idiocy.
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ing to be able
to use function pointers on the new Diablo III like we had planned to
do, the new hires down the hall don't understand them very well so
just don't use them, OK?"
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n, all pre-configured for the most
common cases. You can even create your own new environments if you
have something that doesn't fit into dev/test/prod very easily.
Complete versatility in every regard thanks to Ruby's meta-ness.
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finite resources we all
have to share. Being mad about globalization is pointless, it's
inevitable.
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ior developer who doesn't know of its existence and is
> new to a job is less likely to admit ignorance and ask how a class is
> being defined when __autoload() is being used.
That's a the dumbest reason I've ever heard to not use a given language feature.
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a list, but the peeps in #javascript on irc.freenode.net have
never once failed me when I was stumped.
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sn't work for me however, some header/include error.. maybe
there's a mirror or a cache of it some place. Or perhaps you can
persuade Zend to fix it back to a working state.
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> from there? I'm starting to think it would make a lot of sense. What do
> you guys think?
grep foo whatever.csv | php ./script.php
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the republicans in general, and the short one named 'W' specifically.
I won't bother mentioning the fix as I'm sure 83,293,874,713 people
will post the same correct code by the end of the day tomorrow. No
one runs PHP4 except _my_ clients anyway. *shrug*
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tart() prior to it's use.
http://php.net/session_register
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On 3/1/08, Shelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anybody knows what apache RewriteRule to use if I want url:
> http://www.aaa.comm/user//
> be rewritten as:
> http://www.aaa.comm/user/index.php//
RewriteRule ^user/([-a-zA-Z0-9]+)$ /index.php?user=$1 [NC,L]
t; $textLength; $x++ )
{
if( preg_match( "/[[:space:]]/", $array[ $x ] ) )
{
$counter = 0;
}
else
{
$counter++;
}
$newText .= $array[ $x ];
if( $counter >= $maxLength )
{
$newText .= ' ';
$counter = 0;
}
}
ow do I control which version
> of sqlite, php is calling?
> Thanks for any advice
PHP can use whatever version of SQLite you compile it against. I do
believe SQLite version 3 is the current popular version.
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r such thing ?
>
> thanks a lot,
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On 2/28/08, Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #!/usr/bin/php
Or the entirely more portable version:
#!/usr/bin/env php
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On 2/28/08, Nathan Rixham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what ide's editor's do you two use? zend's use of javaw is killing my
> win2k3 dev machine anyways.
# dd if=/dev/tty of=/dev/hda1
And then sometimes I also use vim.
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On 2/27/08, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So is ASP really a framework?
.Net has upwards of 70K classes. If that's not a framework then I
dunno what is.
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> may want to brush up on your math skills my friend. And your humor skills as
> well :)
My point is it's old news. And it wasn't funny then either.
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ly the 4 year old variety.
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ge, but then
isn't ASP, the object of Rob's "*lol*", also a framework of sorts?
Pot-kettle-black.
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On 2/27/08, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> RoR is a framework, not a language.
Really? I had not heard that previously.
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On 2/27/08, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> *lol* Look at the examples on the page... aks yourself if you enjoy
> typing 2 to 3 times as much to do the same thing.
*lol* This is one of the same reasons why I'm using Ruby on Rails
more and PHP less, all the time.
On 2/26/08, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Speak for yourself. My code is always 100% spotless, efficient,
> and runs the first time, completely bug-free, every single time, as it
> has for years.
Well, in Ruby on Rails, it has this.. nevermind.
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On 2/26/08, revDAVE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rather than bug folks on this cool list for beginner questions - does anyone
> know of a good PHP Newbie email List?
The newbie list idea was shot down multiple times over the years. Ask here.
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On 2/26/08, Ray Hauge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm just glad there's a lot of sinners out there, or at least
> people who aren't that crazy :)
They're called hypocrites.
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t "Joomla" name:
http://search.securityfocus.com/swsearch?query=joomla&metaname=alldoc
And the 280+ exploits when it was called "Mambo":
http://search.securityfocus.com/swsearch?query=mambo&metaname=alldoc
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not forget Sagan's best:
'If by "God" one means the set of physical laws that govern the
universe, then clearly there is such a God. This God is emotionally
unsatisfying... it does not make much sense to pray to the law of
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ible:
http://tinyurl.com/h4u5b
I love what Steven Weinberg, the Nobel Prize-winning physicist said,
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd
have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
But for good people to do evil things, that take
Having the
capacity to create a lot of something in an orderly fashion does not
prove existence.
> god's like wind, can't see it but it still blows your bin over so you
> know it's there.
Good, now I know who to blame when a tornado takes out a trailer park
in the
who insists on genital
mutilation at birth? Do we want influences into our governments that
inhibit natural advances in modern science? Do you really believe in
virgin birth and resurrection?
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On 2/22/08, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's pretty funny... but why rewrite a great fantasy?
It started as a sort of a dare from one of my "bright" friends.
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On 2/22/08, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So help me God
Speaking of imaginary things, check out this new site I built few weeks back:
http://rewriteproject.com/
I do believe I am the first person to ever "tag cloud" a bible :)
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of an example to back up your obviously immature and uninformed
claim.
> Oh wait..
I am indeed waiting, where's your code? When, and under what
circumstances exactly, is getting back an array of objects from a
function or method call "poor design" ? Please, do tell.
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signment_%28computer_science%29#Parallel_assignment
> Please read my other post which explains
> the reasoning.
Your "reasoning" is shit.
min, max = 0, 0
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r example:
http://search.securityfocus.com/swsearch?sbm=%2F&metaname=alldoc&query=phpfox&x=0&y=0
Two exploits doesn't seem bad, but in what time span were they?
Something to think about.
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On Feb 19, 2008 5:23 PM, Steve Edberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For completeness sake, this is pretty much the same in PHP:
>
> function test() {
>return array(1,2);
> }
>
> list($a,$b) = test();
Yup, just a few more keystrokes is all.
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On 2/18/08, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd just return arrays unless I had a specific need for incurring object
> overhead for such simple datatypes.
w0rd.
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it.
In Ruby:
def foo
1, 2
end
a, b = foo
In Python:
def foo
return 1, 2
a, b = foo
In Perl:
sub foo
{
return (1, 2);
}
(my $a, my $b) = foo;
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On 2/18/08, Shawn McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sure, if you want to miss all the linker and compiler goodies :-)
I'm guessing that'd be non-issue for an obviously inexperienced FreeBSD user.
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Works fine for me on 6.3-RELEASE.
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On 2/18/08, Shawn McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> cd /usr/ports/archivers/zip
> make install clean zip
pkg_add -r zip
done.
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al clients
> such
> as programmatic ones eg. web service clients or mobile devices.
REST is the new SOAP. Yaml is the new XML. I'm guessing this news
just hasn't made it into any PHP frameworks yet.
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On Feb 12, 2008 3:37 PM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well thats what xslt is, which is pretty nice.
/me point Nathan to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question
XSLT sucks, complete overkill.
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On Feb 12, 2008 3:32 PM, Christoph Boget <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As an aside, you can save lines when debugging by doing:
>
> echo '' . print_r( $var, TRUE ) . '';
OMG, thanks for that. Lines are so expensive nowadays and all.
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with which you are working. Additionally, they provide the opportunity
> to punt anything not necessary at run-time to pre-compiled HTML.
Your solution to templating is XML?
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I usually add a little function like this to my PHP projects:
function debug( $var )
{
echo '';
print_r( $var );
echo '';
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On Feb 12, 2008 2:57 PM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I prefer content formatting encapsulation as provided by custom tags.
Decorators?
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On 2/12/08, Xavier de Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do any of you guys & gurls know of a way to implement that template
> system.
eval() is my favorite templating engine.
http://php.net/eval
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more capable
than the Zend Encoder. In principle I'd at least want something that
costs less than it's equivalent decoder.
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ney. They paid for the
code so why do you think you still own rights to it?
> they possess the acumen and free time to be able to reverse-engineer
> the code themselves, I honestly don't know why they'd pay someone to
> develop the application in PHP for them in the first place.
I
://railsdb.org/
At this point I've successfully hooked it up to Oracle, MySQL,
PostgreSQL, and SQLite.
> greg, thoughts ?
I like pie.
Martin Fowler +1, if you're a software developer and don't own any
books by him, you should.
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meone wants to reverse code that you
have put in their possession, they will find a way.
Deductive reasoning leads to two possible options:
1) Don't give the code to anyone.
2) Give the code to the client and accept the fact that it may get pirated.
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On 2/6/08, nihilism machine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> that does not help, none specify whether they have a custom fields
> option or not.
"Wah.. why won't anyone do my research for me?"
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On 2/6/08, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/6/08, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There's the Zend Encoder at www.zend.com. Though it may be called
> > something else now.
>
> Pointless.
>
> http://www.phprecovery.com/
http://w
On 2/6/08, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> something else now.
Pointless.
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iveRecord caches the fields query in production. A one-time query
to discover the field types is not a performance hit.
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t the logic for you.
Q. If grep was the best search tool then why did slocate get invented?
A. Indexes.
A MySQL index doesn't go away in between requests.
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On 2/4/08, Jason Pruim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there anything wrong with the way I'm thinking? Or is it that there
> is a better way to search through a static HTML site?
http://www.htdig.org/
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27;m in the market for a new framework, but please only
tell me about ZF because I don't want to spend my own time researching
stuff for myself." Since when is learning something new a crime? Why
are you even a programmer?
ZF works fine if you don't mind all the bloated OO
On Jan 31, 2008 7:04 AM, Eric Butera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IE8 passes Acid2. :)
They make a salve for that I heard.
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java-like syntax" only.
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x27;';
> }
>}
>
> And I would call the function with set_var($name) or set_var($phone).
> The problem is getting the function to use $var as a variable name,
> rather than a value. What am I missing, please?
"" means interpolate the contents.
'' mea
On Jan 30, 2008 7:21 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greg's my hero of the day - even if he has been banging the Ruby drum on
> the PHP Stage half the night ;-)
PHP is a great language. I don't plan to stop using it anytime soon.
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gems are. When you install a gem
the docs are created by rdoc for you on the fly using the gem's Ruby
code itself. As a result you can't not get current api docs when you
install a gem.
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'ruby' > 'php'
=> true
It's like having a shell built directly into the language.
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etty_print_instance_variables", "private_methods",
"protected_methods", "public_methods", "push", "rassoc", "reject",
"reject!", "replace", "require", "respond_to?", "reverse", "reverse!",
"reverse_each", "ri", "rindex", "select", "send", "shift",
"singleton_methods", "size", "slice", "slice!", "sort", "sort!",
"sort_by", "taint", "tainted?", "to_a", "to_ary", "to_s", "transpose",
"type", "uniq", "uniq!", "unshift", "untaint", "values_at", "zip",
"|"]
And since you can't see it I will also mention that IRB has beautiful
syntax highlighting.
> however, ive never heard of an extension whereby the debugger
> drops you into a 'php -a' session.
>
> and btw. php does have pecl and pear, these are both modular
Every time I ever went to the PEAR site I played a game of 'how many
times do I have to click before I dig down deep enough to realize the
docs aren't really there'.
Meanwhile every gem you install with Ruby has an rdoc package with
complete api docs for the gem. You just fire up your local `gem
server` and browse to http://localhost:8808/ to view complete api
docs, offline or on.
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On 1/30/08, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 30, 2008 2:55 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you only need to test data integrity then it seems good enough. I
> > would argue that being able to test xhr requests is a basic
> >
On 1/30/08, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 30, 2008 2:38 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you like Java then stick with PHP as that's where the syntax is
> > clearly headed:
> >
> > http://www.php.net/~helly/php/ext/s
ritten in Ruby not some silly contrivance like XML.
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On Jan 30, 2008 12:40 PM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> java is awesome, it just hasnt worked out for me career wise.
If you like Java then stick with PHP as that's where the syntax is
clearly headed:
http://www.php.net/~helly/php/ext/spl/
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> Perfect example of an advance in web technology.
> perfect example of something that doesnt make much difference.
The time saved writing Yaml instead of XML makes a huge difference to
me. Similar savings are to be had when comparing PHP to most anything
except Java.
it like Perl's CPAN if you're familiar.
There are also plugins, engines, and components depending on the level
of integration you want the vendor code to have.
6) Model validations extend into the view. No re-mapping of variables
like with Smarty or some others I've tried.
7) The R
r tasks. The syntax is a lot smaller which makes it a lot
faster than XML. Perfect example of an advance in web technology.
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don't like it ;)
It's opinionated software and is certainly not for everyone.
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t is particularly interesting, especially if your into
meta-languages or language creation in general.
http://destiney.com/blog/play-with-perl6-mac-os-x-leopard
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nces
in web development technology to focus on elsewhere.
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