Re: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-06 Thread Patrick Teague

ok, so this makes alot of since...  if I move my website from one server to
another server I'll have to go through every single file  redo the
directory structure?  Isn't this the reason for the includes...  so you
don't have to go through every single file to make changes?  Maybe I should
go back to ASP...

#include virtual=/includes/myinclude.inc

or is there a way to get this to work via php on apache?

Patrick



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Re: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-06 Thread michael kimsal

Patrick Teague wrote:
 ok, so this makes alot of since...  if I move my website from one server to
 another server I'll have to go through every single file  redo the
 directory structure?  Isn't this the reason for the includes...  so you
 don't have to go through every single file to make changes?  Maybe I should
 go back to ASP...
 
 #include virtual=/includes/myinclude.inc
 
 or is there a way to get this to work via php on apache?

Per http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.ini-set.php, PHP_INCLUDE_PATH 
is an 'ini' setting which you can change - you could either set it in 
your php.ini once, and point it to one common 'includes' direcotry.  Or 
possibly set it per apache virtual server (via .htaccess perhaps in a
main root directory).

Another thought is to simply make all your include statements use a
constant, such as DOCUMENT_ROOT or something else (we use something
else but the idea is the same).  Yes, all includes need to be written as

include(MYDIRPATH./relative/stuff.php);

Also, try

ini_set(PHP_INCLUDE_PATH,DOCUMENT_ROOT);

at the top of your page(s).  That might do the trick.

but it makes everything a heck of a lot more portable.  Don't go back to 
ASP.  If you really want to use !--#include virtual-- stuff Apache
supports that via .shtml files.  There are probably ways of getting the
two to work together (PHP and SSI) though I'm not sure why you'd want to 
do so.  :)  Remember ASP is a framework, and VBScript is the popular 
language there.  VBScript doesn't support includes at all - it's ASP 
calling an SSI interpreter, include()ing things, then passing to the 
language.  PHP is just a language.   There are some pretty ugly, 
inelegant things going on under the hood with respect to includes under 
ASP - if you want gorey details let me know.  :)

After writing all this I see it's basically a rehash of the 9/2/2001 
posting in the user comments under include at the php manual site.  Is 
there a reason one of those 3 options isn't viable?

Michael Kimsal
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RE: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-05 Thread Ford, Mike [LSS]

 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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 * and then Nick Winfield declared
  I didn't catch the first part of this thread (rampant 
 deletion ahoy) so
  please excuse if I am talking nadgers.  The way I see it, if you are
  calling includes/requires from within other includes, the 
 path is that of
  the script that makes the first include.  If that makes any sense.
 
 Sure does, just wondered if anyone could see a way round my 
 little wish
 :-) AFAIK there is no easy way to do this and as neither the 
 manual nor
 this list has been able to tell me different I'll have to find another
 solution. Thanks for the help though!

H'mm, the only even *vaguely* useful thing I can think of here is that 
dirname(__FILE__) should give you the full directory path of the *current* include 
file.  Fine for here-relative names, but you'd need to manipulate it further to do 
the equivalent of ..-type relativities.

Cheers!

Mike

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[PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-01 Thread Nick Wilson

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Hi all, 
Here's the scenario

masterfileinc lives in /var/www/includes/ and contains this line:

include(/var/www/includes/anotherfileinc);

in indexphp I include masterfileinc and thus get anotherfileinc
Simple (I hope)

What I'd like to know though is, is it possible to have the include line
in masterfileinc specify a url *relative* to itself?


like:

// masterfileinc
include(anotherfileinc); // now the path is relative


Many thanks

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Re: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-01 Thread DL Neil

Hi Nick,

 masterfile.inc lives in /var/www/includes/ and contains this line:
 include(/var/www/includes/anotherfile.inc);

 in index.php I include masterfile.inc and thus get anotherfile.inc.

 What I'd like to know though is, is it possible to have the include
line
 in masterfile.inc specify a url *relative* to itself?
 like:
 // masterfile.inc
 include(anotherfile.inc); // now the path is relative.


AFAIK the options are absolute addressing, relative addressing (to the
php.ini), and http access.

RTFM the four pages from
http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.require.php. There's quite a bit
of advice/experience in the user annotations!

Regards,
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Re: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-01 Thread Nick Wilson

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* and then DL Neil declared
  masterfileinc lives in /var/www/includes/ and contains this line:
  include(/var/www/includes/anotherfileinc);
 
  in indexphp I include masterfileinc and thus get anotherfileinc
 
  What I'd like to know though is, is it possible to have the include
 line
  in masterfileinc specify a url *relative* to itself?
  like:
  // masterfileinc
  include(anotherfileinc); // now the path is relative
 
 
 AFAIK the options are absolute addressing, relative addressing (to the
 phpini), and http access
 
 RTFM the four pages from
 http://wwwphpnet/manual/en/functionrequirephp; There's quite a bit
 of advice/experience in the user annotations!

Please don't RTFM me, that's the first place I went I didn't find what
I'm looking for so I came here
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Re: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-01 Thread Nick Winfield

On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Nick Wilson wrote:

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 * and then DL Neil declared
   masterfileinc lives in /var/www/includes/ and contains this line:
   include(/var/www/includes/anotherfileinc);
  
   in indexphp I include masterfileinc and thus get anotherfileinc
  
   What I'd like to know though is, is it possible to have the include
  line
   in masterfileinc specify a url *relative* to itself?
   like:
   // masterfileinc
   include(anotherfileinc); // now the path is relative
 
 
  AFAIK the options are absolute addressing, relative addressing (to the
  phpini), and http access
 
  RTFM the four pages from
  http://wwwphpnet/manual/en/functionrequirephp; There's quite a bit
  of advice/experience in the user annotations!

 Please don't RTFM me, that's the first place I went I didn't find what
 I'm looking for so I came here

I didn't catch the first part of this thread (rampant deletion ahoy) so
please excuse if I am talking nadgers  The way I see it, if you are
calling includes/requires from within other includes, the path is that of
the script that makes the first include  If that makes any sense

So if you have a file called includesphp in your /home/webroot that
includes/requires files in a subdir called /home/webroot/stuff/ and those
files include/require other files within that same directory (such as
/home/webroot/stuff/classcheesephp), then the includes would look like
this:

# indexphp
include(includesphp);





# includesphp
include(stuff/dbstuffphp);





# stuff/dbstuffphp
include (stuff/classcheesephp);





Am I making any sense? :-)

Regards,

Nick Winfield


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Re: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-01 Thread DL Neil

and Nick Wilson opined in what could be seen to be an arrogant
fashion...
 * and then DL Neil declared
   masterfile.inc lives in /var/www/includes/ and contains this line:
   include(/var/www/includes/anotherfile.inc);
  
   in index.php I include masterfile.inc and thus get
anotherfile.inc.
  
   What I'd like to know though is, is it possible to have the
include
  line
   in masterfile.inc specify a url *relative* to itself?
   like:
   // masterfile.inc
   include(anotherfile.inc); // now the path is relative.
 
 
  AFAIK the options are absolute addressing, relative addressing (to
the
  php.ini), and http access.
 
  RTFM the four pages from
  http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.require.php. There's quite a
bit
  of advice/experience in the user annotations!

 Please don't RTFM me, that's the first place I went. I didn't find
what
 I'm looking for so I came here.

It's a two-way street: please tell us what you have done so that we
don't waste our time trying to help you with 'basic' suggestions when
you're looking for 'the next step up'. Particularly if your enquiry is
basically the hope that the (good quality/fine) manual doesn't mention
something - a most unlikely scenario.
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Re: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-01 Thread Nick Wilson

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* and then Nick Winfield declared
 I didn't catch the first part of this thread (rampant deletion ahoy) so
 please excuse if I am talking nadgers  The way I see it, if you are
 calling includes/requires from within other includes, the path is that of
 the script that makes the first include  If that makes any sense

Sure does, just wondered if anyone could see a way round my little wish
:-) AFAIK there is no easy way to do this and as neither the manual nor
this list has been able to tell me different I'll have to find another
solution Thanks for the help though!
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Re: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-01 Thread Nick Wilson

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* and then DL Neil declared
   RTFM the four pages from
   http://wwwphpnet/manual/en/functionrequirephp; There's quite a
 bit
   of advice/experience in the user annotations!
 
  Please don't RTFM me, that's the first place I went I didn't find
 what
  I'm looking for so I came here
 
 It's a two-way street: please tell us what you have done so that we
 don't waste our time trying to help you with 'basic' suggestions when
 you're looking for 'the next step up' Particularly if your enquiry is
 basically the hope that the (good quality/fine) manual doesn't mention
 something - a most unlikely scenario

If you just want to rude and superior please do it elsewhere, this is a
busy list

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