Re[2]: [PHP] Include???
Hi Tedd, Friday, May 25, 2007, 2:42:34 PM, you wrote: At 3:28 PM +0100 5/23/07, Richard Davey wrote: if ($_POST['status_code'] == 'C') ^^ Read-up on the if/else structure and comparison operators. You'd never use a single equals sign in this example. Rich: Read up on different font sizes that people use and you'll never use ^^ to show something. :-) Font *size* is irrelevant as long as it's monospaced ;) Cheers, Rich -- Zend Certified Engineer http://www.corephp.co.uk Never trust a computer you can't throw out of a window -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re[2]: [PHP] Include???
At 2:46 PM +0100 5/25/07, Richard Davey wrote: Hi Tedd, Friday, May 25, 2007, 2:42:34 PM, you wrote: At 3:28 PM +0100 5/23/07, Richard Davey wrote: if ($_POST['status_code'] == 'C') ^^ Read-up on the if/else structure and comparison operators. You'd never use a single equals sign in this example. Rich: Read up on different font sizes that people use and you'll never use ^^ to show something. :-) Font *size* is irrelevant as long as it's monospaced ;) Rich Like Henry Ford said when the model T came out You can have it in any color you want as long as it's black. Cheers, tedd PS: Yes, I should have said font type or width and instead of size. -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re[2]: [PHP] Include file questions
Hi Tijnema, Friday, May 25, 2007, 5:58:46 PM, you wrote: On 5/25/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very. Each directory contains very specific types of code/content. Tracking down where any given function, class, custom tag, behaviour, etc is defined is extremely simple. Cheers, Rob. I don't agree with you, i have includes in includes dir inside my project, images in images, etc. classes in includes dir start with class. configuration files in includes start with config. etc. Oh to work on such little sized sites again :) Not that I'm belittling your projects Tijnema, because I'm not - but I've not worked on a site with a structure that could be that simple for a long time now, I kinda miss it actually!! Hell even the 'images folder' had to be split across multiple servers in the code I finished today. A lot of Robert's structure makes complete sense. I never keep libraries inside the webroot that simply don't need to be there. Infact if a script doesn't output anything 'web related' (image, rss, html) or process data from the site, it doesn't need to live in the webroot at all. I use a similar principal for the 'admin' area of the site too, which I'm sure you'd hate ;) but I always code my admin areas so that they can run on an entirely different domain name and/or server if needs be. Only as a last resort do they ever live in /admin, and never will they share libs that the 'public' site uses, they are entirely stand-alone entities. You're right in that it is down to personal preference though :) Cheers, Rich -- Zend Certified Engineer http://www.corephp.co.uk Never trust a computer you can't throw out of a window -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re[2]: [PHP] Include file questions
On 5/25/07, Richard Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tijnema, Friday, May 25, 2007, 5:58:46 PM, you wrote: On 5/25/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very. Each directory contains very specific types of code/content. Tracking down where any given function, class, custom tag, behaviour, etc is defined is extremely simple. Cheers, Rob. I don't agree with you, i have includes in includes dir inside my project, images in images, etc. classes in includes dir start with class. configuration files in includes start with config. etc. Oh to work on such little sized sites again :) Not that I'm belittling your projects Tijnema, because I'm not - but I've not worked on a site with a structure that could be that simple for a long time now, I kinda miss it actually!! Hell even the 'images folder' had to be split across multiple servers in the code I finished today. I have actually very big projects, with hundreds of PHP files in the includes folder. I just give them a logical name and it works for me, so if I have for example about 10 scripts(classes) that all relate to file handling, I name them like this class.file.open.php class.file.close.php class.file.read.php class.file.write.php Of course this is just an example, as you don't need a seperate class for file opening.., but you got the point of my file naming now. With this I don't have any problems having 100s of php files in one directory. A lot of Robert's structure makes complete sense. I never keep libraries inside the webroot that simply don't need to be there. Infact if a script doesn't output anything 'web related' (image, rss, html) or process data from the site, it doesn't need to live in the webroot at all. I use a similar principal for the 'admin' area of the site too, which I'm sure you'd hate ;) but I always code my admin areas so that they can run on an entirely different domain name and/or server if needs be. Only as a last resort do they ever live in /admin, and never will they share libs that the 'public' site uses, they are entirely stand-alone entities. You're right in that it is down to personal preference though :) Cheers, Rich It doesn't need to be there, but I like to have all files for a project in a single folder. And what does make the difference if it doesn't output anything? Tijnema -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re[2]: [PHP] Include file
Hello Jay, Wednesday, March 30, 2005, 10:14:27 PM, you wrote: JB I try to use both types of quotes in the proper circumstance. JB Having said that, I came to computing in the age where we worried JB over CPU cycles, but I don't see how in this day and age the JB difference between the two would even matter. Even on a high load JB site the difference between the two would be negligible. I agree it's going to be negligible, but even so the difference does exist. The real question is which is faster between: include path/$file and include 'path/' . $file Can the compiler handle the in-line variables quicker than string concatenation? It'll take a C guru who knows the PHP code well to answer this fully. Best regards, Richard Davey -- http://www.launchcode.co.uk - PHP Development Services I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. - Isaac Asimov -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re[2]: [PHP] include files, .php or .inc ?
Hello Marek, Monday, November 22, 2004, 12:18:22 PM, you wrote: MK Yes, .inc files will show up as they are - php source, db MK username/password etc. So it's even less secure unless you forbid MK serving them: That would be the properly configured web server section of my post, assuming this has been done they are definitely not less secure than placing those details in a .php. Best regards, Richard Davey -- http://www.launchcode.co.uk - PHP Development Services I am not young enough to know everything. - Oscar Wilde -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re[2]: [PHP] include files, .php or .inc ?
--- Richard Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MK Yes, .inc files will show up as they are - php source, db MK username/password etc. So it's even less secure unless you forbid serving them: That would be the properly configured web server section of my post, assuming this has been done they are definitely not less secure than placing those details in a .php. Let's not muddy the waters, though. :-) I have no opinion about whether .inc or .inc.php is a better convention for modules stored within document root, because storing modules in document root is a terrible idea. If you do this, whether by choice or due to some factor you cannot control, you're going to have to accept that it is a security risk, regardless of the name. I know you both agree, but I want to make sure this point isn't lost. :-) Chris = Chris Shiflett - http://shiflett.org/ PHP Security - O'Reilly HTTP Developer's Handbook - Sams Coming February 2005http://httphandbook.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re[2]: [PHP] include files, .php or .inc ?
Hello Perry, Sunday, November 21, 2004, 8:02:48 PM, you wrote: PJ What it the purpose of the .inc file then? Security - on a properly configured web server a .inc file will never actually try and compile/execute itself. Whereas a .php one always will. Best regards, Richard Davey -- http://www.launchcode.co.uk - PHP Development Services I am not young enough to know everything. - Oscar Wilde -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
