[PHP] view source with opera

2002-06-13 Thread Angelo Marcos Rigo

Hi list
I am using php on the company´s website  that i work
and now someone told me that  you can view the php source with
the opera browser
he says he done it by himself .

Anybody can tell me if it´s true or not ?
or in wich conditions this can happen! how to fix this?

Thank´s
 

Ângelo Marcos Rigo
Webmaster Colégio Anchieta
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Re: [PHP] view source with opera

2002-06-13 Thread Adam Voigt

Nope, he's lying. PHP is server side, a browser is well,
browser side. So, no. The only possible way is if you had
your PHP actually printing (by say an accidentally closed ?php)
which would cause it to be show, but since thats a programming
mistake, thats not really a fault of the language.

Adam
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On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 09:12, Angelo Marcos Rigo wrote:
 Hi list
   I am using php on the company´s website  that i work
   and now someone told me that  you can view the php source with
 the opera browser
   he says he done it by himself .
 
   Anybody can tell me if it´s true or not ?
   or in wich conditions this can happen! how to fix this?
   
   Thank´s
  
 
 Ângelo Marcos Rigo
 Webmaster Colégio Anchieta
 http://www.colegioanchieta.g12.br
 
 
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RE: [PHP] view source with opera

2002-06-13 Thread Christoph Starkmann

I'm quite sure that this won't work...
The server isn't delivering the php source, so the client
will not get the source code but only the resulting code
the script generated.
So IMHO this is a hoax.

 Hi list
   I am using php on the company´s website  that i work
   and now someone told me that  you can view the php source with
 the opera browser
   he says he done it by himself .
 
   Anybody can tell me if it´s true or not ?
   or in wich conditions this can happen! how to fix this?

Let him show you...

Cheers,

Kiko

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Re: [PHP] view source with opera

2002-06-13 Thread Adam Voigt

Oh, one other possibility besides my previous statement, if PHP is not
properly configured on the server hosting the .php pages, it probably
would just pass the PHP right to the browser since it doesn't know it's
supposed to execute the PHP block of code. Ofcourse, PHP wouldn't work
anywhere if this is the case, which is usally caught pretty quick.

Adam Voigt
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On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 09:12, Angelo Marcos Rigo wrote:
 Hi list
   I am using php on the company´s website  that i work
   and now someone told me that  you can view the php source with
 the opera browser
   he says he done it by himself .
 
   Anybody can tell me if it´s true or not ?
   or in wich conditions this can happen! how to fix this?
   
   Thank´s
  
 
 Ângelo Marcos Rigo
 Webmaster Colégio Anchieta
 http://www.colegioanchieta.g12.br
 
 
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Re: [PHP] view source with opera

2002-06-13 Thread Stuart Dallas

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 2:20:29 PM, you wrote:

 I'm quite sure that this won't work...
 The server isn't delivering the php source, so the client
 will not get the source code but only the resulting code
 the script generated.
 So IMHO this is a hoax.

Unless your server has phps (source view) enabled. If it has then you can see
the source of any file by using the extension .phps.

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RE: [PHP] view source with opera

2002-06-13 Thread Christoph Starkmann

  I'm quite sure that this won't work...
  The server isn't delivering the php source, so the client
  will not get the source code but only the resulting code
  the script generated.
  So IMHO this is a hoax.
 
 Unless your server has phps (source view) enabled. If it has 
 then you can see
 the source of any file by using the extension .phps.

Awright! But then it would be possible with any browser...

Kiko

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Re: [PHP] view source with opera

2002-06-13 Thread Stuart Dallas

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 2:49:56 PM, you wrote:

  I'm quite sure that this won't work...
  The server isn't delivering the php source, so the client
  will not get the source code but only the resulting code
  the script generated.
  So IMHO this is a hoax.
 
 Unless your server has phps (source view) enabled. If it has 
 then you can see
 the source of any file by using the extension .phps.

 Awright! But then it would be possible with any browser...

Unless I missed it, the OP never said it *only* happened in Opera.

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Re: [PHP] view source with opera

2002-06-13 Thread Dan Hardiker

In short I think what everyone is trying to say is: it depends on how your
server is setup.

If you host your own servers then you need to read up on how PHP works in
the chain of command and how its configured. If not, then reading up on
the whole request and deliver process of HTTP where a scripting language
like PHP / ASP is involved would be useful... but its unlikely that a
commerical hoster would allow .php files to have their source viewd.

To clear things up - if the extension you are using is being parsed by PHP
(eg .php files are working correctly and a phpinfo() executes as expected)
then there is *no known exploit* to get the source from that page. Thats
not to say there isnt one we dont know about - and if your friend /
collegue who informed you that it is possible, can ... then I would be (as
would most of us on this list) most eager to find out how. If he can
replicate the exploit, I have an open mind.

For the record, there are only 3 ways of outputing PHP source on a
properly configured webserver running PHP.

1. Placing a show_source PHP command in your PHP parsed script

2. Using .phps (only works on Unix AFAIK)

3. Outputing the code yourself using echo's / having badly formed code
(eg: missing out the ?php at the begining exposing your php code as raw
html).

In all 3 cases it would be quite obvious (as your site would not function
as intended). Also - for the record - if you cannot view the PHP source
inside IE, then you cannot inside netscape, opera nor any other web
browser as IE gets the same data as the rest of them (unless your doing
some fancy stuff, by which you will already know the answer to most of
your questions).

Hope I havent been to confusing


- Dan


 On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 2:20:29 PM, you wrote:

 I'm quite sure that this won't work...
 The server isn't delivering the php source, so the client
 will not get the source code but only the resulting code
 the script generated.
 So IMHO this is a hoax.

 Unless your server has phps (source view) enabled. If it has then you
 can see the source of any file by using the extension .phps.

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Re: [PHP] view source with opera

2002-06-13 Thread Dan Hardiker

 Unless your server has phps (source view) enabled. If it has
 then you can see
 the source of any file by using the extension .phps.

 Awright! But then it would be possible with any browser...

 Unless I missed it, the OP never said it *only* happened in Opera.

but unless we are assuming the OP is a complete idiot, we can assume that
it would be more than obvious! As the PHP script wouldnt execute at all!
Also, this only works on a unix host, and I doubt that anyone would
purposly name their files .phps  blah blah.

In short the answer is still no, you cannot gain the source from a
functional PHP script unless it has been setup to. There is no exploit to
do this with any browser.

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Re: RES: [PHP] view source with opera

2002-06-13 Thread Stuart Dallas

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 2:59:35 PM, you wrote:
 yes the bad guy says it only happen in opera
 i ask to show me how but give no response until now 

Let us know what he says. I think we'd all be interested.

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