On Fri, 2013-03-15 at 09:11 -0400, Dale H. Cook wrote:
> At 09:44 PM 3/14/2013, tamouse mailing lists wrote:
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> >If you are delivering files to a (human) user via their browser, by whatever
> >mechanism, that means someone can write a script to scrape them.
>
> That script, however, would have
At 09:27 AM 3/15/2013, Stuart Dallas wrote:
>You'll have to pursue legal avenues to prevent it being made available, and
>that's usually prohibitively expensive.
Not necessarily. Most of the host systems for the scraper sites are responsive
to my complaints. Even if a site owner will not respon
On 15 Mar 2013, at 13:11, "Dale H. Cook" wrote:
> At 09:44 PM 3/14/2013, tamouse mailing lists wrote:
>
>> If you are delivering files to a (human) user via their browser, by whatever
>> mechanism, that means someone can write a script to scrape them.
>
> That script, however, would have to be
At 09:44 PM 3/14/2013, tamouse mailing lists wrote:
>If you are delivering files to a (human) user via their browser, by whatever
>mechanism, that means someone can write a script to scrape them.
That script, however, would have to be running on my host system in order to
access the script whic
At 12:40 PM 3/14/2013, Ravi Gehlot wrote:
>In order to address the problem, you should create a "Members Restricted Area"
You need to understand my target demo to understand my approach. Much of my
target audience for those files is elderly and not very computer savvy. Having
to register for ac
I have made some progress. It occurred to me that the problem that I had in
accessing files outside the web root could be a pathing problem, and that was
the case. I finally ran phpinfo() and examined &_SERVER["DOCUMENT_ROOT"] to see
what the correct path should be. I then figured that for porta
Hello Dale,
The spiders are not the only problem. The issue here is that anyone can
download your files from your website and then make them available
elsewhere. In order to address the problem, you should create a "Members
Restricted Area" where members only could download your files. You can the
At 04:06 AM 3/14/2013, tamouse mailing lists wrote:
>If the files are delivered via the web, by php or some other means, even if
>located outside webroot, they'd still be scrapeable.
Bots, however, being "mechanical" (i.e., hard wired or programmed) behave in
different ways than humans, and that
On Mar 13, 2013 7:06 PM, "David Robley" wrote:
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> "Dale H. Cook" wrote:
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> > At 05:04 PM 3/13/2013, Dan McCullough wrote
> > :
> >>Web bots can ignore the robots.txt file, most scrapers would.
> >
> > and at 05:06 PM 3/13/2013, Marc Guay wrote:
> >
> >>These don't sound like robots that would re
"Dale H. Cook" wrote:
> At 05:04 PM 3/13/2013, Dan McCullough wrote
> :
>>Web bots can ignore the robots.txt file, most scrapers would.
>
> and at 05:06 PM 3/13/2013, Marc Guay wrote:
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>>These don't sound like robots that would respect a txt file to me.
>
> Dan and Marc are correct. Although I
At 05:04 PM 3/13/2013, Dan McCullough wrote
:
>Web bots can ignore the robots.txt file, most scrapers would.
and at 05:06 PM 3/13/2013, Marc Guay wrote:
>These don't sound like robots that would respect a txt file to me.
Dan and Marc are correct. Although I used the terms "spiders" and "pirates"
At 04:58 PM 3/13/2013, Jen Rasmussen wrote:
>Have you tried keeping all of your documents in one directory and blocking
>that directory via a robots.txt file?
A spider used by a pirate site does not have to honor robots.txt, just as a
non-Adobe PDF utility does not have to honor security setting
> Have you tried keeping all of your documents in one directory and blocking
> that directory via a robots.txt file?
These don't sound like robots that would respect a txt file to me.
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> Subject: [PHP] Accessing Files Outside the Web Root
>
> Let me preface my question by noting that I am virtually a PHP novice.
> Although I am a long-time webmaster, and have used PHP for some years to
> give visitors access to information in my SQL database, this is my first
>
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From: Dale H. Cook [mailto:radiot...@plymouthcolony.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:38 PM
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Subject: [PHP] Accessing Files Outside the Web Root
Let me preface my question by noting that I am virtually a PHP novice.
Although I am a
Let me preface my question by noting that I am virtually a PHP novice. Although
I am a long-time webmaster, and have used PHP for some years to give visitors
access to information in my SQL database, this is my first attempt to use it
for another purpose. I have browsed the mailing list archives
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