[PHP] Dumb Question - Casting

2010-02-18 Thread Chuck
Sorry, been doing heavy perl and haven't written any PHP in 3 years so a tad
rusty.

Can someone explain why the second expression in this code snippet evaluates
to 7 and not 8?

$a = (int) (0.1 +0.7);

echo $a\n;

$x = (int) ((0.1 + 0.7) * 10);

echo $x\n;

$y = (int) (8);

echo $y\n;


Re: [PHP] Dumb Question - Casting

2010-02-18 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 09:47 -0600, Chuck wrote:

 Sorry, been doing heavy perl and haven't written any PHP in 3 years so a tad
 rusty.
 
 Can someone explain why the second expression in this code snippet evaluates
 to 7 and not 8?
 
 $a = (int) (0.1 +0.7);
 
 echo $a\n;
 
 $x = (int) ((0.1 + 0.7) * 10);
 
 echo $x\n;
 
 $y = (int) (8);
 
 echo $y\n;


It works as expected if you take out the int() parts in each line. I'm
not sure why, but the use of int() seems to be screwing around with the
results. That's why the first line outputs a 0.

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk




Re: [PHP] Dumb Question - Casting

2010-02-18 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Ashley Sheridan
a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 09:47 -0600, Chuck wrote:

 Sorry, been doing heavy perl and haven't written any PHP in 3 years so a tad
 rusty.

 Can someone explain why the second expression in this code snippet evaluates
 to 7 and not 8?

 $a = (int) (0.1 +0.7);

 echo $a\n;

 $x = (int) ((0.1 + 0.7) * 10);

 echo $x\n;

 $y = (int) (8);

 echo $y\n;


 It works as expected if you take out the int() parts in each line. I'm
 not sure why, but the use of int() seems to be screwing around with the
 results. That's why the first line outputs a 0.

 Thanks,
 Ash
 http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk


Another fine example of floating point math.

?php

$x = ((0.1 + 0.7) * 10);

echo ((0.1 + 0.7) * 10) === $x\n;
// ((0.1 + 0.7) * 10) === 8


var_dump(8 == $x);
// bool(false)

var_dump($x - (int) $x);
// float(1)

var_dump(8 - $x);
// float(8.8817841970013E-16)

?

Andrew

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Re: [PHP] Dumb Question - Casting

2010-02-18 Thread Daniel Egeberg
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 16:47, Chuck chuck.car...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry, been doing heavy perl and haven't written any PHP in 3 years so a tad
 rusty.

 Can someone explain why the second expression in this code snippet evaluates
 to 7 and not 8?

 $a = (int) (0.1 +0.7);

 echo $a\n;

 $x = (int) ((0.1 + 0.7) * 10);

 echo $x\n;

 $y = (int) (8);

 echo $y\n;


The reason why you get 7 instead of 8 is because you are using
floating point arithmetic. 0.1 (i.e. the fraction 1/10) does not have
a finite representation in base 2 (like you cannot finitely represent
1/3 in base 10). So the number 0.1 is represented in the computer as a
number that is strictly less than 0.1 so when you do 0.1+0.7=x then
you have x0.8 in the computer (think 7.999...). When you cast to
int you just truncate the number, i.e. you chop off the fractional
part leaving you with 7.

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Re: [PHP] Dumb Question - Casting

2010-02-18 Thread Joseph Thayne
According to the PHP manual using the same expression, Never cast an 
unknown fraction to integer, as this can sometimes lead to unexpected 
results.  My guess is that since it is an expression of floating 
points, that the result is not quite 8 (for whatever reason).  
Therefore, it is rounded towards 0.  Of course, that is only a guess, 
and I have no true documentation on it.


Ashley Sheridan wrote:

On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 09:47 -0600, Chuck wrote:

  

Sorry, been doing heavy perl and haven't written any PHP in 3 years so a tad
rusty.

Can someone explain why the second expression in this code snippet evaluates
to 7 and not 8?

$a = (int) (0.1 +0.7);

echo $a\n;

$x = (int) ((0.1 + 0.7) * 10);

echo $x\n;

$y = (int) (8);

echo $y\n;




It works as expected if you take out the int() parts in each line. I'm
not sure why, but the use of int() seems to be screwing around with the
results. That's why the first line outputs a 0.

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk



  


Re: [PHP] Dumb Question - Casting

2010-02-18 Thread Nathan Rixham
Daniel Egeberg wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 16:47, Chuck chuck.car...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry, been doing heavy perl and haven't written any PHP in 3 years so a tad
 rusty.

 Can someone explain why the second expression in this code snippet evaluates
 to 7 and not 8?

 $a = (int) (0.1 +0.7);

 echo $a\n;

 $x = (int) ((0.1 + 0.7) * 10);

 echo $x\n;

 $y = (int) (8);

 echo $y\n;

 
 The reason why you get 7 instead of 8 is because you are using
 floating point arithmetic. 0.1 (i.e. the fraction 1/10) does not have
 a finite representation in base 2 (like you cannot finitely represent
 1/3 in base 10). So the number 0.1 is represented in the computer as a
 number that is strictly less than 0.1 so when you do 0.1+0.7=x then
 you have x0.8 in the computer (think 7.999...). When you cast to
 int you just truncate the number, i.e. you chop off the fractional
 part leaving you with 7.
 

yup as Daniel pointed out; this is correct - love floats  casting!

see:

$y = ((0.1 + 0.7) * 10);
$x = (int)$y;
$z = intval($y);
var_dump($y);
var_dump(serialize($y));
var_dump($x);
var_dump($z);

outputs:
float(8)
string(55) d:7.99911182158029987476766109466552734375;
int(7)
int(7)

lovely! - note: serializing gives us the exact value of the float

regards,

Nathan



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