RE: [PHP] Enterprise grade CMS+Ecomm

2006-07-21 Thread Chris W. Parker
Larry Garfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, July 20, 2006 6:36 PM said:

 On Thursday 20 July 2006 11:30, Chris W. Parker wrote:
 
 Drupal has its own ecommerce suite that is reasonably robust all on
 its own.

Yeah I saw that module. I think today I am going to try to set them both
up.


Thanks for your input.
Chris.

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[PHP] Enterprise grade CMS+Ecomm

2006-07-20 Thread Chris W. Parker
Hello,

So we're getting ready to redo our website once again to integrate some
modern changes and a shift in branding. I'm currently looking at all my
options as far as software goes. The question I have to answer is Do I
write everything by myself from scratch and spend 3-6 months doing it?
Or do I spend that same amount of money on a prebuilt system and spend 1
month integrating our new branding?

The answer doesn't even have to be specifically one way or the other. It
could be a mixture of the two. Perhaps I use something like Drupal
(which I have no experience with) for the CMS part and write my own
ecommerce application. Or perhaps I write my own basic CMS and purchase
an ecommerce application?

I've seen X-Cart and at first glance it doesn't look terrible so far. At
least the design templates look to be pretty flexible.

I'm definitely not interested in osCommerce or derivatives thereof. Why?
Because I've worked with osC in the past and I dislike it very much.

As for a CMS, I just watched a video on Drupal 4.7 and it looks quite
interesting. Opinions?

I'm also currently looking at www.opensourcecms.com and have been to the
Joomla, XOOPS, Xaraya, and Mambo websites also.



Thanks,
Chris.

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Re: [PHP] Enterprise grade CMS+Ecomm

2006-07-20 Thread Paul Scott

On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 09:30 -0700, Chris W. Parker wrote:
 As for a CMS, I just watched a video on Drupal 4.7 and it looks quite
 interesting. Opinions?
 

How about having a look at http://avoir.uwc.ac.za/ ? Its Free, very easy
to learn and has a very active user and developer community.

Its built on a MVC design pattern, so its really easy to write adaptor
classes that you can quickly and painlessly integrate OSCommerce or
whatever else you may need in there. 

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RE: [PHP] Enterprise grade CMS+Ecomm

2006-07-20 Thread Brady Mitchell
 -Original Message-
 The question I have to answer is Do I write everything by myself from
scratch 
 and spend 3-6 months doing it? Or do I spend that same amount of money
on a prebuilt system 
 and spend 1 month integrating our new branding?

The answer to this question depends heavily on your needs.  What kind of
functionality do you need to get out of your website?  If you are
looking for a website that is similar to others in function, than I
would definitely suggest looking at an existing CMS package.  

Even if you will need some custom functionality, it may be worth the
time and effort to create your own module for an existing system.  But
again, that depends on the complexity of the system you need.

 The answer doesn't even have to be specifically one way or 
 the other. It could be a mixture of the two. Perhaps I use something
like Drupal
 (which I have no experience with) for the CMS part and write my own
 ecommerce application. Or perhaps I write my own basic CMS 
 and purchase an ecommerce application?

I would suggest that you take a look at the different CMS options as
well as the community released modules / plugins.  You may well find a
CMS that has a module that will meet your needs, or be close enough that
you could take the code and customize it to what you are looking for.

 As for a CMS, I just watched a video on Drupal 4.7 and it looks quite
 interesting. Opinions?

I'm currently migrating from a Mambo site to Drupal.  My main reason for
doing so is the multi-site functionality.  We have a few different
websites that we maintain for different business goals, but we want them
all to authenticate against the same database due to the fact that some
of our users will need to use all of the sites.  

Using drupal it is very simple to setup several sites on one codebase,
and telling them to all authenticate against the same database table is
very easy.  The other nice thing is that you can setup drupal to share
the sessions table as well, so logging into one site logs you into all
of the sites at once.

Having said that, Drupal is a little more difficult to understand than
some of the other CMS systems.  At least it was for me, but that
probably reflects more on me than on Drupal.  ;)
 
For a single site setup I would probably stick with Joomla, but that's
just a preference.

The bottom line is that there are lots of great CMS options, and the
best way to choose one is to know exactly what you want from a CMS and
compare them with that in mind.

Good luck,

Brady

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RE: [PHP] Enterprise grade CMS+Ecomm

2006-07-20 Thread Chris W. Parker
Brady Mitchell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:25 PM said:

 The answer to this question depends heavily on your needs.  What kind
 of functionality do you need to get out of your website?  If you are
 looking for a website that is similar to others in function, than I
 would definitely suggest looking at an existing CMS package.
[snip]
 The bottom line is that there are lots of great CMS options, and the
 best way to choose one is to know exactly what you want from a CMS and
 compare them with that in mind.

Yeah I understand that it's a pretty open ended question, and thanks for
the info about Drupal. We want to maintain 2 different sites as well and
authenticating against the same table sounds nice.

But as for recommendations, keeping in mind the difficulty in answering
a question like mine, I am mostly just looking for things like what
you've said: I use $cms because I like that it can do $feature.


Thanks,
Chris.

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Re: [PHP] Enterprise grade CMS+Ecomm

2006-07-20 Thread Larry Garfield
On Thursday 20 July 2006 11:30, Chris W. Parker wrote:

 The answer doesn't even have to be specifically one way or the other. It
 could be a mixture of the two. Perhaps I use something like Drupal
 (which I have no experience with) for the CMS part and write my own
 ecommerce application. Or perhaps I write my own basic CMS and purchase
 an ecommerce application?

Drupal has its own ecommerce suite that is reasonably robust all on its own.

Drupal's main advantage: Whatever you're trying to do, odds are you can 
already do it with some combination of existing modules.

Drupal's main disadvantage: There's a metric fuckton of modules and just as 
many ways to combine them.  The don't code, just configure option is not 
always easy to figure out because it's just so flexible.

(Disclaimer: I am a Drupal developer, albeit a minor one.)

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