Re: [PHP] Hitler and Recent Threads
Hey, that happens to be my little attempt to promote a funny site i helped to create...some parts in php i might add. + Its one of my outlook signatures. Cheers, -Ryan We will slaughter you all! - The Iraqi (Dis)information ministers site http://MrSahaf.com - Original Message - From: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 6:25 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Hitler and Recent Threads [snip] I pity the poor sap who just joined the list and instead of finding php topics discussed finds quotes,jokes,godwins laws, quirks laws,name calling, referneces to Hitler and other topics... Can we end this now please? [/snip] This from a guy who ends his posts with [snip] We will slaughter you all! - The Iraqi (Dis)information ministers site http://MrSahaf.com [/snip] LOL Maybe we shoud start requiring tips! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Hitler and Recent Threads
[snip] And as they say, Never argue with a fool. People will not be able to tell the differnce. I thought it was Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience [/snip] I thought it was It is better to keep your foot in your mouth and have people think you a fool, rather than remove your foot and all doubt along with it. :-) Jay -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Hitler and Recent Threads
The so called Nazi clause is itself the invocation of Godwin's Law. Your reading skills are flawed or you could have determined this from the abounding literature available on the Web. Also there are many examples of Godwin's Law being invoked and subsequently Quirk's exception being raised. Thus said, having reviewed precedence, my usage of Quirk's exception is correct and contrary to your misunderstanding. Admittedly now I'm wasting my time (big deal), the group's time (sorry all), but probably not your time. Future attempts to troll me into a retarded discussion of the merits of Godwin's law or any other off-topic fork from the original thread (regardless of how wrong you are -- which will more than likely be the case) will be met with silence. 'Nuff said. Cheers, Rob. On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 10:12, Mark wrote: As much as I'd like to get into the details of Godwin's Law and Quirk's Exception, I'll leave it with a minor explanation. Quirk's exception essentially says that you can't say Hilter! There, the threads over. It doesn't say anything about invoking Godwin's Law. Quirk's Exception: Intentional invocation of this so-called Nazi Clause is ineffectual. Perhaps you could do a bit more reading on it. But the bottom line is, the thread HAS outlived its usefulness (if it ever had any) and, like discussions about religion or politics, is not going to change anyone's mind. And as they say, Never argue with a fool. People will not be able to tell the differnce. --- Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Godwin's law in no way states that that the argument has been lost. Only that the thread has outlived it's usefulness. Unfortunately your invocation of Godwin's law forces it to fall under Quirk's exception which generally makes you the fool. Cheers, Rob. On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 23:11, Mark wrote: I believe according to Godwin's Law, Mr. Cummings has now lost the argument. That kind of thinking leads to things like Hitler :| -- .-. | Worlds of Carnage - http://www.wocmud.org | :-: | Come visit a world of myth and legend where | | fantastical creatures come to life and the | | stuff of nightmares grasp for your soul.| `-' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Hitler and Recent Threads
Phillip Blancher mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:20 PM said: OK Everyone... Isn't this a PHP list... Yes. c. p.s. TRIM YOUR POSTS -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Hitler and Recent Threads
As much as I'd like to get into the details of Godwin's Law and Quirk's Exception, I'll leave it with a minor explanation. Quirk's exception essentially says that you can't say Hilter! There, the threads over. It doesn't say anything about invoking Godwin's Law. Quirk's Exception: Intentional invocation of this so-called Nazi Clause is ineffectual. Perhaps you could do a bit more reading on it. But the bottom line is, the thread HAS outlived its usefulness (if it ever had any) and, like discussions about religion or politics, is not going to change anyone's mind. And as they say, Never argue with a fool. People will not be able to tell the differnce. --- Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Godwin's law in no way states that that the argument has been lost. Only that the thread has outlived it's usefulness. Unfortunately your invocation of Godwin's law forces it to fall under Quirk's exception which generally makes you the fool. Cheers, Rob. On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 23:11, Mark wrote: I believe according to Godwin's Law, Mr. Cummings has now lost the argument. That kind of thinking leads to things like Hitler :| = Mark Weinstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** You can't demand something as a right unless you are willing to fight to death to defend everyone else's right to the same thing. *** __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- .-. | Worlds of Carnage - http://www.wocmud.org | :-: | Come visit a world of myth and legend where | | fantastical creatures come to life and the | | stuff of nightmares grasp for your soul.| `-' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php = Mark Weinstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** You can't demand something as a right unless you are willing to fight to death to defend everyone else's right to the same thing. *** __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Hitler and Recent Threads
Godwin's law in no way states that that the argument has been lost. Only that the thread has outlived it's usefulness. Unfortunately your invocation of Godwin's law forces it to fall under Quirk's exception which generally makes you the fool. Cheers, Rob. On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 23:11, Mark wrote: I believe according to Godwin's Law, Mr. Cummings has now lost the argument. That kind of thinking leads to things like Hitler :| = Mark Weinstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** You can't demand something as a right unless you are willing to fight to death to defend everyone else's right to the same thing. *** __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- .-. | Worlds of Carnage - http://www.wocmud.org | :-: | Come visit a world of myth and legend where | | fantastical creatures come to life and the | | stuff of nightmares grasp for your soul.| `-' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Hitler and Recent Threads
[snip] I pity the poor sap who just joined the list and instead of finding php topics discussed finds quotes,jokes,godwins laws, quirks laws,name calling, referneces to Hitler and other topics... Can we end this now please? [/snip] This from a guy who ends his posts with [snip] We will slaughter you all! - The Iraqi (Dis)information ministers site http://MrSahaf.com [/snip] LOL Maybe we shoud start requiring tips! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: VOT: [PHP] Hitler and Recent Threads
--- CPT John W. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] And as they say, Never argue with a fool. People will not be able to tell the differnce. I thought it was Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience :) Now that's one I haven't heard! Gotta file it away for future use... = Mark Weinstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** You can't demand something as a right unless you are willing to fight to death to defend everyone else's right to the same thing. *** __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Hitler and Recent Threads
Jay Blanchard mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, August 07, 2003 9:25 AM said: LOL Maybe we shoud start requiring tips! ARRGGH! NO!! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Hitler and Recent Threads
I believe according to Godwin's Law, Mr. Cummings has now lost the argument. That kind of thinking leads to things like Hitler :| = Mark Weinstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** You can't demand something as a right unless you are willing to fight to death to defend everyone else's right to the same thing. *** __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Hitler and Recent Threads
OK Everyone... Isn't this a PHP list... -- Best Regards, Phil Phillip Blancher Web Developer Lead Graphic Designer http://www.ontarioweb.ca 1-866-209-0349 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 5:14 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 4.75 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8-3mdk Date: 06 Aug 2003 17:14:38 -0400 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PHP] Stop neurotic posting X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UIDL: N1j!!hQl!*od!!VS+#! Hitler began his conquest by taking a country here, a country there while other countries sat around saying to each other oh he won't keep doing it. Let's DO NOTHING! Obviously that plan was flawed -- and that is what I was referring to -- not that by being quiet suddenly the world will be plunged into war again (not that it isn't already). Cheers, Rob. On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 17:11, Chris Sherwood wrote: Hitler is it? why is it everytime someone mentions a proper ettiquette, or some common sense thing that it is immeadiately taken to an extreme.. is this reasonable behaviour? does it portray us as adults, maybe adults who have a major chip on our shoulders... all I am saying is if you feel nasty ... keep it to yourself now how does that equate to being like or bringing back hitler? - Original Message - From: Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Stop neurotic posting On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 16:36, Chris Sherwood wrote: or what does it take to actually give a reasonable answer... if I am gonna be rude I wont say anything... doesnt any one remember their mother telling them if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all? That kind of thinking leads to things like Hitler :| If we never say anything then it becomes the norm for people to continue their behaviour. Currently the question being debated is what constitutes poor behaviour/etiquette within this mailing list. While I agree that this forum is primarily for answering questions -- I disagree that it is for answering silly little questions that would be common knowledge if the asker had bothered to read any tutorials or documentation -- most especially when it appears that the poster didn't even bother to do any kind of searching for themselves. I mean really, questions like does X do Y is often as simple as writing 1 to 5 lines of test code which is probably shorter than the email itself and doesn't pollute the mailing list with 5 to 10 replies of yes or no. Cheers, Rob. -- .-. | Worlds of Carnage - http://www.wocmud.org | :-: | Come visit a world of myth and legend where | | fantastical creatures come to life and the | | stuff of nightmares grasp for your soul.| `-' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- .-. | Worlds of Carnage - http://www.wocmud.org | :-: | Come visit a world of myth and legend where | | fantastical creatures come to life and the | | stuff of nightmares grasp for your soul.| `-' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Ontario Webs MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/2003 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Hitler and Recent Threads
I pity the poor sap who just joined the list and instead of finding php topics discussed finds quotes,jokes,godwins laws, quirks laws,name calling, referneces to Hitler and other topics... Can we end this now please? -Ryan We will slaughter you all! - The Iraqi (Dis)information ministers site http://MrSahaf.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Hitler and Recent Threads
From: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] And as they say, Never argue with a fool. People will not be able to tell the differnce. I thought it was Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience :) ---John Holmes... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
