Re: [PHP] Include Files in HTML
On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 18:21 -0500, phphelp -- kbk wrote: On Sep 4, 2009, at 5:03 PM, sono...@fannullone.us wrote: Depends on what you are including. The only tags that can be inside the head are base, link, meta, script, style, and title. Everything else is either body or prologue. I meant PHP includes like this one: ?php @include_once(/home/passwords/login.php); ? We know what you mean. Read the responses more carefully, as they are telling you what you need to know. For simplification: The INCLUDE commands put the contents of the INCLUDed file into this file, just as if as you had typed it in there. Ken It's good to remember that PHP isn't inserted into HTML, but the other way round. PHP can output HTML, but is often used to output many other formats, from images to xml to documents. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Include Files in HTML
In my readings, I've run across examples showing include files being called from within the head/head tags, and other examples showing them called within body/body. I've always put them in the header section myself, but I was wondering if one is better than the other, or is it just personal preference? Frank -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Include Files in HTML
From: sono-io at fannullone.us In my readings, I've run across examples showing include files being called from within the head/head tags, and other examples showing them called within body/body. I've always put them in the header section myself, but I was wondering if one is better than the other, or is it just personal preference? Depends on what you are including. The only tags that can be inside the head are base, link, meta, script, style, and title. Everything else is either body or prologue. The full specs can be found at http://www.w3schools.com/tags/default.asp. Bob McConnell -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Include Files in HTML
Bob McConnell wrote: From: sono-io at fannullone.us In my readings, I've run across examples showing include files being called from within the head/head tags, and other examples showing them called within body/body. I've always put them in the header section myself, but I was wondering if one is better than the other, or is it just personal preference? Depends on what you are including. The only tags that can be inside the head are base, link, meta, script, style, and title. Everything else is either body or prologue. The full specs can be found at http://www.w3schools.com/tags/default.asp. Bob McConnell Sure enough. What the OP might not have realized: In the end, what PHP evaluates to, is a stream of html, script, css etc text/data, which is sent to the browser. PHP's include( file ) statement inserts the content of file here-and-now. You can even put the include statement within a for loop in order to include something multiple times... In that sense it is more like a /function/ and really different from cpp's #include /directive/. file can contain PHP code, which is evaluated as if it was here-and-now in the including PHP file; it can contain text/data, which is appended to the text/data stream being produced. All in all, to PHP the spot of file inclusion is not interesting, as long as the resulting PHP code and/or stream data is meaningful. Now back to you, Bob :-) Regards, Joost. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Include Files in HTML
On Sep 4, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Bob McConnell wrote: Depends on what you are including. The only tags that can be inside the head are base, link, meta, script, style, and title. Everything else is either body or prologue. I meant PHP includes like this one: ?php @include_once(/home/passwords/login.php); ? Frank -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Include Files in HTML
- Original Message From: sono...@fannullone.us sono...@fannullone.us To: PHP General List php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 12:57:08 PM Subject: [PHP] Include Files in HTML In my readings, I've run across examples showing include files being called from within the tags, and other examples showing them called within . I've always put them in the header section myself, but I was wondering if one is better than the other, or is it just personal preference? Frank --PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Depends on your application design and/or your desired result. If you design your application to do all processing before output is sent starting with html, then all your includes goes before html. If you want to have the modular approach of including css js files inside the head element, you don't have to worry about going back to changing every single output file when you decide the change your layout or javascript framework. It also makes your code page a bit cleaner when you do use include in the head. If you want to make use of chunked encoding, you can including the rest within the body. Thus, include everything before html gives you a slight pause 'waiting for reply...' in the status bar before the client even begin to download anything. When includes are scattered all over, server processes some sends the web browser info, here go fetch some more (css, js, images) until the the last buffered output is sent /html (that is if your page is compliant ;) Regards, Tommy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Include Files in HTML
- Original Message From: Tommy Pham tommy...@yahoo.com To: php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 4:11:31 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Include Files in HTML - Original Message From: sono...@fannullone.us To: PHP General List Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 12:57:08 PM Subject: [PHP] Include Files in HTML In my readings, I've run across examples showing include files being called from within the tags, and other examples showing them called within . I've always put them in the header section myself, but I was wondering if one is better than the other, or is it just personal preference? Frank --PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Depends on your application design and/or your desired result. If you design your application to do all processing before output is sent starting with , then all your includes goes before . If you want to have the modular approach of including css js files inside the element, you don't have to worry about going back to changing every single output file when you decide the change your layout or javascript framework. It also makes your code page a bit cleaner when you do use include in the . If you want to make use of chunked encoding, you can including the rest within the . Thus, include everything before gives you a slight pause 'waiting for reply...' in the status bar before the client even begin to download anything. When includes are scattered all over, server processes some sends the web browser info, here go fetch some more (css, js, images) until the the last buffered output is sent (that is if your page is compliant ;) Regards, Tommy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Forgot to mention a few things, if your app is sophisticated enough to require header settings (content-type, etc), those include have to go before the buffered output is sent. Also, you want to make use of chunked encoding, you cannot use/specify content-length in the header. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Include Files in HTML
On Sep 4, 2009, at 5:03 PM, sono...@fannullone.us wrote: Depends on what you are including. The only tags that can be inside the head are base, link, meta, script, style, and title. Everything else is either body or prologue. I meant PHP includes like this one: ?php @include_once(/home/passwords/login.php); ? We know what you mean. Read the responses more carefully, as they are telling you what you need to know. For simplification: The INCLUDE commands put the contents of the INCLUDed file into this file, just as if as you had typed it in there. Ken -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
