On 15 Nov 2005, at 19:53, Robin Vickery wrote:
I doubt very much if they will be disabled. They are perfectly valid
SGML processing instructions.
Firstly, I didn't actually suggest they were disabled. I suggested
that they should be off by default.
Late to the party I know, but I think
Curt Zirzow wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 05:39:36PM +, Richard Davey wrote:
Hi Jim,
Tuesday, November 15, 2005, 5:25:58 PM, you wrote:
I don't know, but those who do should not use short tags. And those
who hope to should not get into the habit of using short tags.
And for the vast
Can '?=' be used for templates, or is it a bad thing?
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On 11/15/05, Roman Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can '?=' be used for templates, or is it a bad thing?
The manual's reasonably explicit on the subject:
Note: Using short tags should be avoided when developing
applications or libraries that are meant for redistribution, or
deployment on PHP
Robin Vickery wrote:
On 11/15/05, Roman Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can '?=' be used for templates, or is it a bad thing?
The manual's reasonably explicit on the subject:
Note: Using short tags should be avoided when developing
applications or libraries that are meant for
Robin Vickery wrote:
On 11/15/05, Roman Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can '?=' be used for templates, or is it a bad thing?
The manual's reasonably explicit on the subject:
Note: Using short tags should be avoided when developing
applications or libraries that are meant for
Roman Ivanov wrote:
Robin Vickery wrote:
On 11/15/05, Roman Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can '?=' be used for templates, or is it a bad thing?
The manual's reasonably explicit on the subject:
Note: Using short tags should be avoided when developing
applications or libraries that are
Robin Vickery wrote:
On 11/15/05, Roman Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can '?=' be used for templates, or is it a bad thing?
The manual's reasonably explicit on the subject:
Note: Using short tags should be avoided when developing
applications or libraries that are meant
Every server I work on is set to not allow short tags, and I work on
about 7 different state, federal, and commercial ones. Some of them
don't even read .htaccess files in the directories where my scripts
reside, so trying that type of hack would get you booted.
just my $.02
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HI All,
Every server I work on is set to not allow short tags, and I work on
about 7 different state, federal, and commercial ones.
Why turn off short tags? Does that make things more secure?
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The prolonged evacuation would have
Every server I work on is set to not allow short tags, and I work on
about 7 different state, federal, and commercial ones.
Why turn off short tags? Does that make things more secure?
In some respects it does because it means shortcuts are not allowed, it
also means that someone trying to
Jim Moseby wrote:
Robin Vickery wrote:
On 11/15/05, Roman Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can '?=' be used for templates, or is it a bad thing?
The manual's reasonably explicit on the subject:
Note: Using short tags should be avoided when developing
applications or libraries that are
Leonard Burton wrote:
HI All,
Every server I work on is set to not allow short tags, and I work on
about 7 different state, federal, and commercial ones.
Why turn off short tags? Does that make things more secure?
Don't know if it makes it any more or less secure. I turn them off
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In some respects it does because it means shortcuts are not allowed, it
also means that someone trying to hack through your site is going to be
held to a higher standard (ASP tags are cut off as well, the only thing
Most PHP site exploits I've
Jim Moseby wrote:
Robin Vickery wrote:
On 11/15/05, Roman Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can '?=' be used for templates, or is it a bad thing?
The manual's reasonably explicit on the subject:
Note: Using short tags should be avoided when developing
applications or libraries
Hi Jochem,
Tuesday, November 15, 2005, 4:34:28 PM, you wrote:
so how many people actually _need_ to write portable code? ok so
many you are starting a project which will become a runaway success
but until it starts receiving alot of attention use of
short-open-tags is probably not your
On 11/15/05, Jochem Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jim Moseby wrote:
Robin Vickery wrote:
On 11/15/05, Roman Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can '?=' be used for templates, or is it a bad thing?
The manual's reasonably explicit on the subject:
Note: Using short tags should be
Hi Jim,
Tuesday, November 15, 2005, 5:25:58 PM, you wrote:
I don't know, but those who do should not use short tags. And those
who hope to should not get into the habit of using short tags.
And for the vast majority remaining, who write closed-apps for
clients??
It will be when you have to
On Tue, November 15, 2005 11:35 am, Richard Davey wrote:
Tuesday, November 15, 2005, 4:34:28 PM, you wrote:
so how many people actually _need_ to write portable code? ok so
many you are starting a project which will become a runaway success
but until it starts receiving alot of attention use
At 01:25 PM 11/15/2005, Jim Moseby wrote:
Jim Moseby wrote:
Robin Vickery wrote:
On 11/15/05, Roman Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can '?=' be used for templates, or is it a bad thing?
The manual's reasonably explicit on the subject:
Note: Using short tags should be
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 05:39:36PM +, Richard Davey wrote:
Hi Jim,
Tuesday, November 15, 2005, 5:25:58 PM, you wrote:
I don't know, but those who do should not use short tags. And those
who hope to should not get into the habit of using short tags.
And for the vast majority
On 11/15/05, Jochem Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so how many people actually _need_ to write portable code? ok so many you
are starting a project which will become a runaway success but until it starts
receiving alot of attention use of short-open-tags is probably not your
biggest
issue
Robin Vickery wrote:
snip
Short tags have been deprecated for years. Both the manual and the
php.ini file itself advise people not to use them. Personally I think
it's about time they were turned off by default, but that's bound to
annoy a lot of people who've ignored the warnings.
Hey, we
On 11/15/05, Roman Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robin Vickery wrote:
On 11/15/05, Roman Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can '?=' be used for templates, or is it a bad thing?
The manual's reasonably explicit on the subject:
Note: Using short tags should be avoided when
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Jim Moseby wrote:
It will be when you have to sort through 1,000,000 lines of code in 400
files to change '?' to '?PHP'. Better to save the grief and do it right
to start with, no?
for file in *.php; do
cp $file $file.tmp
sed -e s/?$/?php/g $file.tmp $file
rm $file.tmp
On Nov 15, 2005, at 8:39 AM, Greg Donald wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Jim Moseby wrote:
It will be when you have to sort through 1,000,000 lines of code
in 400
files to change '?' to '?PHP'. Better to save the grief and do
it right
to start with, no?
for file in *.php; do
cp $file
Hi Robin,
Tuesday, November 15, 2005, 6:18:06 PM, you wrote:
Short tags have been deprecated for years. Both the manual and the
php.ini file itself advise people not to use them. Personally I
think it's about time they were turned off by default, but that's
bound to annoy a lot of people
On 11/15/05, Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Jim Moseby wrote:
It will be when you have to sort through 1,000,000 lines of code in 400
files to change '?' to '?PHP'. Better to save the grief and do it right
to start with, no?
for file in *.php; do
cp $file
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Jim Moseby wrote:
It will be when you have to sort through 1,000,000 lines of
code in 400
files to change '?' to '?PHP'. Better to save the grief
and do it right
to start with, no?
for file in *.php; do
cp $file $file.tmp
sed -e s/?$/?php/g $file.tmp $file
Hiyah Richard,
On 11/15/05, Richard Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Robin,
Tuesday, November 15, 2005, 6:18:06 PM, you wrote:
Short tags have been deprecated for years. Both the manual and the
php.ini file itself advise people not to use them. Personally I
think it's about time they
cho tag reasonably portable?
Hi Jim,
Hi Richard.
Tuesday, November 15, 2005, 5:25:58 PM, you wrote:
I don't know, but those who do should not use short tags. And those
who hope to should not get into the habit of using short tags.
And for the vast majority remaining, who write
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Jim Moseby wrote:
for file in *.php; do
cp $file $file.tmp
sed -e s/?$/?php/g $file.tmp $file
rm $file.tmp
done
I maintain: Better to save the grief and do it right to start with, no?
Maybe at some point I too will be lucky enough to only work on code that
I authored.
Hi Robin,
Tuesday, November 15, 2005, 7:53:55 PM, you wrote:
I did quote the note concerning them in its entirety. If I had
simply quoted the manual as saying be sure not to use short tags
then I could see your point regarding lack of context. But I didn't.
Not in the message I was replying
On 11/15/05, Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Jim Moseby wrote:
for file in *.php; do
cp $file $file.tmp
sed -e s/?$/?php/g $file.tmp $file
rm $file.tmp
done
I maintain: Better to save the grief and do it right to start with, no?
Maybe at some point I too
Hi Jim,
Tuesday, November 15, 2005, 8:01:01 PM, you wrote:
Still best practice is to use long tags. Suppose you write a
closed-app for a client who makes a business decision to move it to
a hosted server that does not allow short tags... The down side is,
the app will break. The up side is,
On 11/15/05, Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Jim Moseby wrote:
for file in *.php; do
cp $file $file.tmp
sed -e s/?$/?php/g $file.tmp $file
rm $file.tmp
done
I maintain: Better to save the grief and do it right to start with, no?
Maybe at some point I too
On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 01:27:12AM +0200, Robin Vickery wrote:
On 11/15/05, Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Jim Moseby wrote:
for file in *.php; do
cp $file $file.tmp
sed -e s/?$/?php/g $file.tmp $file
rm $file.tmp
done
...
for file in *.php; do
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