Re: [PHP] Learning PHP5
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:12:12 -0400, Michael Lauzon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately the PHP.net are not really for beginners, you have to have some programming knowledge to get started using their tutorials...this is just my opinion. Well you're certainly entitled to your opinion.. I program in multiple languages as do many people on this list. And I for one have to say that it doesn't get any more simple than PHP and the ease of learning you get from it's excellent online manual. No other programming manual even comes close. You get well documented usage examples plus hundreds if not thousands of user comments that often contain even more coding examples. Being able to teach yourself kinda goes along with being a programmer.. and PHP.net totally accelerates that function. Go out and try to learn Perl, Python, Java, or C (with no prior programming knowledge) and get back to me. It's certainly possible, but I wouldn't want to learn Perl again from scratch. -- Greg Donald Not to beat a dead horse, but... I'll agree with Greg on this. I learned Perl from the books and examples online. It was slow paced and took much trial and error. Python was even harder as I wasn't proficient with Object-Oriented programming. I taught myself PHP and MySQL together over Thanksgiving weekend 3 years ago all from php.net (and a little help from mysql.com). While I wasn't as fluent in the language as I am now, it was a starting point that got me where I am today with PHP. I couldn't believe how easy it was. And unlike my learnings from previous languages, PHP taught my the importance of writing security in my scripts...something I never thought to brainstorm first. If you're looking specifically for PHP5 object-oriented programming, that's something that needs to be learned outside of any progrmaming language. It's what I'm going through now but PHP is my crutch to learn from since I'm already comfortable with the language. It's just a start... http://www.php.net/manual/en/tutorial.php -- --Matthew Sims --http://killermookie.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Learning PHP5
About a week ago someone was asking where are beginner can go to learn PHP5? This book was just advertised on Slashdot. Learning PHP 5 Only $20 on Amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596005601/qid=1099000383/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/104-8763861-9120755?v=glances=booksn=507846 -- --Matthew Sims --http://killermookie.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Learning PHP5
On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 15:03 -0700, Matthew Sims wrote: About a week ago someone was asking where are beginner can go to learn PHP5? This book was just advertised on Slashdot. Learning PHP 5 Only $20 on Amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596005601/qid=1099000383/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/104-8763861-9120755?v=glances=booksn=507846 I'm using it now and it's pretty good. I am almost 3/4 done the book after a week and half (including exercises). Dan. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Learning PHP5
Matthew Sims wrote: About a week ago someone was asking where are beginner can go to learn PHP5? This book was just advertised on Slashdot. Learning PHP 5 Only $20 on Amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596005601/qid=1099000383/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/104-8763861-9120755?v=glances=booksn=507846 IICR he also asked the material to be free as he currently cannot afford to buy books :-) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Learning PHP5
On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 15:03 -0700, Matthew Sims wrote: About a week ago someone was asking where are beginner can go to learn PHP5? This book was just advertised on Slashdot. Learning PHP 5 Only $20 on Amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596005601/qid=1099000383/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/104-8763861-9120755?v=glances=booksn=507846 I'm using it now and it's pretty good. I am almost 3/4 done the book after a week and half (including exercises). Dan. Eh...I tired. I guess http://php.net is as free as you can get. -- --Matthew Sims --http://killermookie.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Learning PHP5
Eh...I tired. I guess http://php.net is as free as you can get. -- --Matthew Sims --http://killermookie.org Matt, Unfortunately the PHP.net are not really for beginners, you have to have some programming knowledge to get started using their tutorials...this is just my opinion. -- Michael Lauzon -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Learning PHP5
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:12:12 -0400, Michael Lauzon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately the PHP.net are not really for beginners, you have to have some programming knowledge to get started using their tutorials...this is just my opinion. Well you're certainly entitled to your opinion.. I program in multiple languages as do many people on this list. And I for one have to say that it doesn't get any more simple than PHP and the ease of learning you get from it's excellent online manual. No other programming manual even comes close. You get well documented usage examples plus hundreds if not thousands of user comments that often contain even more coding examples. Being able to teach yourself kinda goes along with being a programmer.. and PHP.net totally accelerates that function. Go out and try to learn Perl, Python, Java, or C (with no prior programming knowledge) and get back to me. It's certainly possible, but I wouldn't want to learn Perl again from scratch. -- Greg Donald Zend Certified Engineer http://gdconsultants.com/ http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Learning PHP5
On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 20:20 -0500, Greg Donald wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:12:12 -0400, Michael Lauzon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately the PHP.net are not really for beginners, you have to have some programming knowledge to get started using their tutorials...this is just my opinion. Well you're certainly entitled to your opinion.. I program in multiple languages as do many people on this list. And I for one have to say that it doesn't get any more simple than PHP and the ease of learning you get from it's excellent online manual. No other programming manual even comes close. You get well documented usage examples plus hundreds if not thousands of user comments that often contain even more coding examples. Being able to teach yourself kinda goes along with being a programmer.. and PHP.net totally accelerates that function. Go out and try to learn Perl, Python, Java, or C (with no prior programming knowledge) and get back to me. It's certainly possible, but I wouldn't want to learn Perl again from scratch. I have to agree with this, Learning PHP 5 and the online manual are making this very easy for me, I can almost say it's as easy as HTML. But this maybe because I know perl. Dan. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
