Re: [PHP] No forums?
On Fri, November 4, 2005 9:09 pm, GamblerZG wrote: AFAIK, there are no official forums for PHP. Considering the fact that PHP is a web development tool, such distaste for message boards is ironic at the least. So why exactly there aren't any forums on php.net? There are no decent PHP forum software packages that aren't riddled with security problems and really nasty PHP code. I sincerely wish the preceding statement were false, as my clients ask me for forums and I just say No. I would welcome a rebuttal from Chris Shifflet. Most anybody else can just stifle their response. :-) Maybe your first proposal needs to be to put a Tiger Team together to BUILD a decent PHP Forum with quality code, and a true security audit. Until you have that, the owners of php.net will almost-for-sure squelch any forum proposal, as they already have way too many headaches from all the PHP forum software being targetted and maligned as PHP Security Flaws [sic] Does php.net really have the resources to support the traffic of an official PHP-General forum? It's all very well for a zillion sites to set up their little forums, but if you think 200 emails per day is a lot, how many forum posts do you think there would be? Are not the PHP resources already strained? Are you willing to contribute a server pool to handle the load? Can you find a donor willing to do so? Are you volunteering to moderate the damn thing? Cuz I sure won't. :-) I personally seldom come back to forums. I find what I want, and I contribute what I can, when I can. Though less now than before, since I'm not willing to set up an account for a forum I know I'll never visit twice... And invariably I forget what they forced me to use as a Username. I can remember my throw-away password just fine, thanks, but I got no idea what Username I had to take after the one I wanted was gone. So, extrapolating from my sample of one (1) user, how many hard-core PHP gurus are willing to contribute to the proposed forum on php.net? A php.net PHP forum without quality moderators and even higher quality contributors would be a disaster. You'd need to line up those resources first and foremost, as well. Put me down as wish I could, but know I probably won't. Sorry. I'm trying to present these issues in a constructive criticism light -- If you can get a GOOD forum with quality content and the resources behind it and without the severe security headaches I anticipate up on php.net, by all means, go for it! A more realistic proposal to consider, if quality forum PHP software does exist, contrary to my beliefs, would be to seek out the BEST PHP forum[s] in that software and see if the owner[s] would be willing to migrate/co-host it to php.net, perhaps even under some kind of co-branding operation. Otherwise, the stuff outlined above might seem just a bit too daunting. Just an idea to toss around. PS In the meantime, there are several quality forums around with very dedicated and generous hosts who would very much welcome your contributions. Zend.com springs to mind. I'm pretty sure there are other great ones out there, though I mostly find them by Googling rather than knowing the URLs. SORRY!!! At any rate, start making a lot of serious contributions to the one you think is best, to add weight to the quality of content, so that you can point to it as a good thing to exist on php.net -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re[2]: [PHP] No forums?
Hi Richard, Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 12:40:12 AM, you wrote: There are no decent PHP forum software packages that aren't riddled with security problems and really nasty PHP code. I sincerely wish the preceding statement were false, as my clients ask me for forums and I just say No. I agree 99% with you, the majority are (excuse my French) utter shite. *but* the code quality, features and stability of the excellent FUD Forum thankfully doesn't fall into the camp you describe. While I don't use it myself, you only need to take a quick look at the code and who's involved with it to recognise its quality. Cheers, Rich -- Zend Certified Engineer PHP Development Services http://www.corephp.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
On Fri, November 4, 2005 10:22 pm, John Nichel wrote: Larry E. Ullman wrote: snip All that being said, I think everyone should send me $5. I've monitored this list long enough to predict the most probable replies... Bah, I've got 10 times the posts you do since 2002, just from this email address. 75% of that $5 goes to me. ;) Here's my address: 1248 N Noble Chicago, IL 60622-3327 In this mythical MLM of most-posts, I think I get a cut. I'll let you guys work out how big the cut should be. PS Anybody actually wants to donate $5 to my get out of debt fund, that's actually the address to send it to... -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
Richard Davey wrote: I agree 99% with you, the majority are (excuse my French) utter shite. *but* the code quality, features and stability of the excellent FUD Forum thankfully doesn't fall into the camp you describe. While I don't use it myself, you only need to take a quick look at the code and who's involved with it to recognise its quality. Hmmm, thank you for mentioning this forum, I wasn't previously aware of it. I know phpBB has been criticized previously for behind-the-scenes code quality, though it seems like a fairly mature online forum package while using it. Any thoughts on a comparison between the 2? Much warmth, Murray -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
On Sat, November 5, 2005 10:22 am, Death Gauge wrote: Forums and mailinglists like this are about the same. Forums has image content though while mailing lists just have text content. You get the same replies as you would with the other so be happy that they at least have this mailing list and don't just say Here is PHP and have fun learning it without our help. Yeah, we really need those avatars to be ported to the mailing list technology. [that was sarcasm, in case you missed it] --Death Gauge How do you gauge your death?! Not dead yet: http://waterdogmusic.com/artists/badexamples/badisbea.html :-) [one of my clients] -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re[2]: [PHP] No forums?
Hi Murray, Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 1:34:12 AM, you wrote: Hmmm, thank you for mentioning this forum, I wasn't previously aware of it. I know phpBB has been criticized previously for behind-the-scenes code quality, though it seems like a fairly mature online forum package while using it. Any thoughts on a comparison between the 2? IMHO there is no comparison. I think the only reason someone would prefer phpbb is if they were crap at design, and wanted to use one of the many phpbb templates that exist out there. All logical, security and features reasons point to FUD. But it has to be said, it just doesn't look as nice, and sadly that is a good enough factor to deter lots of people :-\ Cheers, Rich -- Zend Certified Engineer PHP Development Services http://www.corephp.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 07:32:06PM -0600, Richard Lynch wrote: On Fri, November 4, 2005 10:22 pm, John Nichel wrote: Larry E. Ullman wrote: snip All that being said, I think everyone should send me $5. I've monitored this list long enough to predict the most probable replies... Bah, I've got 10 times the posts you do since 2002, just from this email address. 75% of that $5 goes to me. ;) ... In this mythical MLM of most-posts, I think I get a cut. I'll let you guys work out how big the cut should be. I still think Mr Holmes beats everyone, and he hasn't posted in a while. Here are some counts (per email address): John Nichel http://news.zirzow.dyndns.org/news.php/php.general/user/1c357d715a480c880f03a5b061c5ae1b/ Richard Lynch: http://news.zirzow.dyndns.org/news.php/php.general/user/dbe152a0d3b3e8284b39cab6b1fdde7d/ Larry E. Ullman http://news.zirzow.dyndns.org/news.php/php.general/user/5f7396a98d2d9a0b793e9b681f550675/ Me: http://news.zirzow.dyndns.org/news.php/php.general/user/0414b1b959a32cae28aa6d6c5682e762/ And Holmes: http://news.zirzow.dyndns.org/news.php/php.general/user/17a2fbc518dfbeac39b58f248c0d07ec/ I'd like to vouch for cut on the $5 as well :) Curt -- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
Curt Zirzow wrote: Here are some counts (per email address): Is this thing back? :-) It would be cool to see a top 10 or something. Chris -- Chris Shiflett Brain Bulb, The PHP Consultancy http://brainbulb.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
On Tue, November 8, 2005 9:47 pm, Curt Zirzow wrote: Richard Lynch: http://news.zirzow.dyndns.org/news.php/php.general/user/dbe152a0d3b3e8284b39cab6b1fdde7d/ Add in richard-AT-zend.com and rlynch-AT-ignitionstate.com and rlynch-AT-nwu.edu and rlynch-AT-ils.nwu.edu and rlynch-AT-cognitivearts.com and rlynch-AT-learningscienses.com and... I think that's it, but I dunno. I changed emails with jobs back then. Never again. Oh, I'll keep a separate email for a job and file job-related stuff in it. And are we counting the PHP mailing list from before it split into PHP-General or just after the split? Cuz I got a zillion posts back on the PHP mailing list. :-) I've been a real lightweight for a long time now. Used to be, I'd post maybe 50 per day. Did that for, what?, 5 years or so, back in the early days... Getting old. -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 10:55:57PM -0500, Chris Shiflett wrote: Curt Zirzow wrote: Here are some counts (per email address): Is this thing back? :-) It would be cool to see a top 10 or something. Almost. I ended up re-doing all the code, it took like 4 days just to fetch all the posts since day one on this list alone. I'll probably end up adding a bunch of summary information, including some cool graphs. One of my objectives this time is to provide a descent search of the archives. theaimsgroup search sucks and google's groups is missing a lot of articles. Curt. -- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 10:00:27PM -0600, Richard Lynch wrote: On Tue, November 8, 2005 9:47 pm, Curt Zirzow wrote: Richard Lynch: http://news.zirzow.dyndns.org/news.php/php.general/user/dbe152a0d3b3e8284b39cab6b1fdde7d/ Add in richard-AT-zend.com and rlynch-AT-ignitionstate.com and rlynch-AT-nwu.edu and rlynch-AT-ils.nwu.edu and rlynch-AT-cognitivearts.com and rlynch-AT-learningscienses.com and... I think that's it, but I dunno. Yeah that is a bit of an issue. I've been considering a way to link email addresses so that the email profile will show other emails the user has used. I'd have to either manually link the addresses or do some matching on the actual name of the person, both ideas just haven't justified the work needed to do that. And are we counting the PHP mailing list from before it split into PHP-General or just after the split? Cuz I got a zillion posts back on the PHP mailing list. Not at the moment. I still yet to have gotten the version3 and version4 lists. i have each list seperated out into it's own table domain, i might eventually merge the db's to include all posts, I'm not sure how helpful that would be though. I've been a real lightweight for a long time now. Used to be, I'd post maybe 50 per day. Did that for, what?, 5 years or so, back in the early days... Getting old. Yeah, your posts show your experience. I think you posted well beyond 50 today, and the average line count was probably over 30 (excluding quoted material) Curt -- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
On Tuesday 08 November 2005 17:32, the author Richard Lynch contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [PHP] No forums?: On Fri, November 4, 2005 10:22 pm, John Nichel wrote: Larry E. Ullman wrote: snip All that being said, I think everyone should send me $5. I've monitored this list long enough to predict the most probable replies... Bah, I've got 10 times the posts you do since 2002, just from this email address. 75% of that $5 goes to me. ;) Here's my address: 1248 N Noble Chicago, IL 60622-3327 In this mythical MLM of most-posts, I think I get a cut. I'll let you guys work out how big the cut should be. PS Anybody actually wants to donate $5 to my get out of debt fund, that's actually the address to send it to... If anyone sends you $5 you wll be adding $5 to your debts chuckles david -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
[snip] Currently, the universe is the way it is and, many believe, it works just fine. Why should we do anything at all? [/snip] Because we have no control over the existance and operation of the universe. If we did we would have changed it already. Our profound lack of understanding of the operation of the universe, even with leaders such as Bohr, Einstein, Feynman, and others prevent us from being able to exert any control. There are several PHP forums out there, just none on php.net. Bandwidth might be a consideration. Administrative workload might be another (you have noticed that there really isn't a list mod here -- although I was nominated for the position last week) and the workload for a forum could be several orders of magnitude higher, which I know from past experience. The thing that offended some, Roman, was your attitude in the post, as if you did not know that already. There are several good PHP based boards out there and the lack of one on php.net does not indicate any distaste for forums, and from the absence of a forum we cannot deduce anything at all (proper logic applied) any more than we can deduce something from your not owning a television set. The possibilities are too open ended. Furthermore, if you knew all of the potential replies (which you did not, even though you claimed to) why even open your e-mail editor (which you did) which, based on the discourse, we could assume that you have a distaste for? This thread is useless at this point to PHP and helping people solve their PHP issues. May we end it here? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
Funny. I _ditched_ forums in order to sign onto this list. It's way too much of an effort for me to log in to a website every time. Lists work with quiet efficiency (not efficacy, I suppose) in the background without needing me to refresh the page every 5 minutes. My $0.2. Pranav www.concept-i.co.in GamblerZG wrote: AFAIK, there are no official forums for PHP. Considering the fact that PHP is a web development tool, such distaste for message boards is ironic at the least. So why exactly there aren't any forums on php.net? I've monitored this list long enough to predict the most probable replies to this message. To save everybody some time, I will ansver them here, without waiting someone to key them in. Reply: There are forums on zend.com. My Reply: zend.com != php.com. R: There is a web interface for this mailing list. MR: You cant' post new messages there, and it's just another way of showing emails anyway. R: There is a newsgroup interface. MR: Yeah, I'm using it right now. But it requires special software, and is terribly slow, unless you have very good connection and moderately powerful PC. R: Forums suck, mailing lists rule. MR: Not if you don't like receiving 200 messages + spam every day. R: Synchronizing mail lists and forums is very difficult and nobody will do it. MR: There is no need to synchronize anything. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
One of the fallacies in your argument is that the lack of an official forum on php.net implies such distaste for message boards. I don't have a big screen TV but I have anything but distaste for them! Well, let me give you a different example. I don't have a TV at all, even though I could buy one. Knowing this, would you assume that I don't like watching it? No, I wouldn't, as my point is that the lack of something doesn't imply _any_one_thing_. There are many reasons why something may or may not exist. Assuming that there is such distaste for message boards is fallacious (as would be my assuming you don't like TV). The same thing with forum. It's a usual feature, just like website is. Would you be surprised if PHP had no website? Yes, I would, particularly as I've been going to it for years. Finding out that PHP had no website would definitely mess with my perception of reality. But I disagree with your theory that having a forum is implied by the technology. PHP is open source, so the fact that ANYBODY freely supports it in any way is just plain nice. Also, you should realize that your question could be rephrased as Why hasn't someone else done all this extra work (creating and managing a forum) because I would prefer it? Are you saying that I'm the only PHP user that might like discussing things on a forum? I'm pretty sure I didn't say that but I'll have to check my notes. I'm saying that you seem to be incredulous over the lack of something which you think makes sense. But my point is that there can be any number of reasons why php.net does not have a forum so the lack need not be ironic. In fact, that lack may even make sense (at least to those that run the Web site). Besides, you're implying that maintaining forum is extra work, while maintaining mailing lists isn't. Extra work for extra users you can live without, eh? Eh? What? Well, it IS extra work. The mailing list exists and, many believe, work just fine. Doing more than what is currently being done is extra, right? Or more? I'm almost positive about that. Larry -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
Forums and mailinglists like this are about the same. Forums has image content though while mailing lists just have text content. You get the same replies as you would with the other so be happy that they at least have this mailing list and don't just say Here is PHP and have fun learning it without our help. Side question: Larry Ullman: You wouldn't happen to be the same Mr. Ullman that wrote the PHPMySQL For Dynamic Web Sites? --Death Gauge How do you gauge your death?! _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
Hi, Saturday, November 5, 2005, 3:09:01 AM, you wrote: AFAIK, there are no official forums for PHP. Considering the fact that PHP is a web development tool, such distaste for message boards is ironic at the least. So why exactly there aren't any forums on php.net? How about some good logistical reasons? php.net does not exist in any one location. It does not serve any one language. There are over 100 mirror sites across the entire world handling php.net, from Thailand to South Africa. The site is offered in 30+ different languages, English, Chinese, Swedish, Japanese, etc. To be true to the php project, if it were to start a forum it would have to be mirrored across all of these servers, unless you're advocating country elitism for this forum? (and no, it is not fair to force users in say Africa to have to connect to a US server). There is NO off the shelf forum software that can cope with a distributed forum in this manner, with content and user repositories spread across so many diverse networks. When you post a message on a US server, how long before it should appear on the Slovenia mirror? If it's not instant, it is less useful than the mailing list. So unless this forum syncs across the 100+ mirrors on an application level, you're left with a hardware level link-up (duplication of the database perhaps, whatever). Eitherway it's quite some work, not to mention expense, especially to keep it real-time. The reason the mailing list *works* is that the content is delivered to the people, the people don't have to seek it out. For those in relatively low-bandwidth countries they get to choose which messages they want prior to actually downloading them (most mailing packages offer a read-headers option). So if you want a hosted in one country / location PHP forum there are plenty out there already, I can think of 4 in my bookmarks alone. I can't think of any that will give you replies from some of the most talented php developers in the world though. If you want one that truly offers what the mailing list provides already - you're going to have to write it, because it doesn't exist. Start now and we'll check in on your progress in a years time :) Cheers, Rich -- Zend Certified Engineer PHP Development Services http://www.corephp.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
GamblerZG wrote: I do not see anything horrible in my message. It's not like I'm _demanding_ something, or suggesting to tear down mailing lists. Neither did I suggest that mailing lists suck. In case of php.internals they totally make sense. But I _do_ think that forum efficient in case of high-volume messaging. Having had to endure the newgroup interface while my eMail address was being bounced, I much prefer being able to manage the content of my eMail folders. I don't have to have a network connection while searching or reviewing material and I can add my own local notes as well. Forums are even more restrictive than newsgroups so I don't see that they add anything that is not currently available, and this list has considerably less traffic than some of the others I am a moderator on ;) -- Lester Caine - L.S.Caine Electronic Services Treasurer - Firebird Foundation Inc. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
Assuming something is not a logical fallacy, just like inability to use inductive logic is not a virtue, but rather an extreme case of sophism (I mean the original sophism, which was a name for a certain philosophy). Well, it IS extra work. If nobody needs forums, than the notion of the fact that creating them would require some activity is irrelevant. If, on the other hand, forums are needed, than the concern should be phrased differently altogether. BTW, what IS you concern? The mailing list exists and, many believe, work just fine. Currently, the universe is the way it is and, many believe, it works just fine. Why should we do anything at all? -- Best regards, Roman S.I. http://sf.net/projects/naturalgine/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
Lester Caine wrote: Forums are even more restrictive than newsgroups so I don't see that they add anything that is not currently available, and this list has considerably less traffic than some of the others I am a moderator on ;) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
Lester Caine wrote: GamblerZG wrote: I do not see anything horrible in my message. It's not like I'm _demanding_ something, or suggesting to tear down mailing lists. Neither did I suggest that mailing lists suck. In case of php.internals they totally make sense. But I _do_ think that forum efficient in case of high-volume messaging. Having had to endure the newgroup interface while my eMail address was being bounced, I much prefer being able to manage the content of my eMail folders. I don't have to have a network connection while searching or reviewing material and I can add my own local notes as well. Forums are even more restrictive than newsgroups so I don't see that they add anything that is not currently available, and this list has considerably less traffic than some of the others I am a moderator on ;) I understand that mail lists are convenient for many people. But personally, I would like forums because I do not read all the messages here. Newsgroup partially solves the problem, but it's quite slow, and I can't post from a computer where I did not configure email client. PDA is no good either. Plus, forums have other nice features: formatting, syntax highlighting, images, ability to edit messages and make them sticky. Also, you can monitor a single thread by email, without receiving all of the messages in the forum. Finally, forum can be much more newbie-friendly if you allow anonymous users to post. It is the main reason I think there are many other people who would also like to have web conference. Instead of «subscribe, post, wait, receive gadzillion of mails, receive needed reply, unsubscribe, delete gadzillion of mails», it would be just «post, wait, receive reply». -- Best regards, Roman S.I. http://sf.net/projects/naturalgine/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 15:24, GamblerZG wrote: Assuming something is not a logical fallacy, just like inability to use inductive logic is not a virtue, but rather an extreme case of sophism (I mean the original sophism, which was a name for a certain philosophy). Well, it IS extra work. If nobody needs forums, than the notion of the fact that creating them would require some activity is irrelevant. If, on the other hand, forums are needed, than the concern should be phrased differently altogether. BTW, what IS you concern? The mailing list exists and, many believe, work just fine. Currently, the universe is the way it is and, many believe, it works just fine. Why should we do anything at all? Why should we continue to listen to your argument, you have your stance and it's obvious by your responses you are trolling because you flippantly dismiss all the very valid reasons that have been given to you. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 16:04, GamblerZG wrote: It is the main reason I think there are many other people who would also like to have web conference. Instead of «subscribe, post, wait And how many of these many other people in your guesstimate have come forward to support your notion? Perhaps you, and they can go ahead and start up your forum. As was suggested already, if you build it, and if they come, they (the Gods of PHP) might just officialize it. You have your mandate, feel free to stop trolling now. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] No forums?
I'm afraid I'm going to have to agree with Rob Cummings on this one. I have a comment and suggestion: Comment: There is far too much 'spam' about a long-dealt with issue which keeps flying around, clogging up mailing lists. It can sometime happens when people either feel they need to have the last say, or that they are simply competitive and cannot be seen to be wrong in other people's eyes (when, in fact - nobody really cares anymore on the issue). When all that is required is for interested parties to air their issues in emails among themselves, they still insist on including the whole of the mailing list - if (in their eyes) the opinions of others are important, this only highlights their insecurities. Suggestion: To those who don't want to be part of this thread for the next week or two, simply setup a mail filter with RE: [PHP] No forums? in the subject. :P I'm onto it now. :) Regards, Richie ! -Original Message- From: Robert Cummings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2005 5:09 am To: GamblerZG Cc: PHP-General Subject: Re: [PHP] No forums? On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 16:04, GamblerZG wrote: It is the main reason I think there are many other people who would also like to have web conference. Instead of subscribe, post, wait And how many of these many other people in your guesstimate have come forward to support your notion? Perhaps you, and they can go ahead and start up your forum. As was suggested already, if you build it, and if they come, they (the Gods of PHP) might just officialize it. You have your mandate, feel free to stop trolling now. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] No forums?
HI All, I use gmail and find it to deal with the threading quite nicely. And as Richie suggests I can set the filter up very easily. I think using gmail is much better than a forum but then again, if someone were to come up with a solution to where a distributed fourm could be created and have it merged with the mailing list, now there might be something useful, even if redundant. Thanks, -- Leonard Burton, N9URK [EMAIL PROTECTED] The prolonged evacuation would have dramatically affected the survivability of the occupants. -- Leonard Burton, N9URK [EMAIL PROTECTED] The prolonged evacuation would have dramatically affected the survivability of the occupants. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
Richard Davey wrote: php.net does not exist in any one location. It's an interesting perspective. Thanks for an insightful reply. Start now and we'll check in on your progress in a years time :) You're joking, but I might actually do it. I was thinking about such forum before. It could be useful for many purposes. -- Best regards, Roman S.I. http://sf.net/projects/naturalgine/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re[2]: [PHP] No forums?
Hi, Saturday, November 5, 2005, 11:30:29 PM, you wrote: Start now and we'll check in on your progress in a years time :) You're joking, but I might actually do it. I was thinking about such forum before. It could be useful for many purposes. It would be *extremely* useful, but I imagine quite a nightmare to code properly, or someone would have done so already. Even so - somebody has to be first, no reason why it can't be you. I think a years estimate was a conservative one given the scale of the project, but possible. Cheers, Rich -- Zend Certified Engineer PHP Development Services http://www.corephp.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 22:09, GamblerZG wrote: AFAIK, there are no official forums for PHP. Considering the fact that PHP is a web development tool, such distaste for message boards is ironic at the least. So why exactly there aren't any forums on php.net? I've monitored this list long enough to predict the most probable replies to this message. To save everybody some time, I will ansver them here, without waiting someone to key them in. Reply: There are forums on zend.com. My Reply: zend.com != php.com. R: There is a web interface for this mailing list. MR: You cant' post new messages there, and it's just another way of showing emails anyway. R: There is a newsgroup interface. MR: Yeah, I'm using it right now. But it requires special software, and is terribly slow, unless you have very good connection and moderately powerful PC. R: Forums suck, mailing lists rule. MR: Not if you don't like receiving 200 messages + spam every day. R: Synchronizing mail lists and forums is very difficult and nobody will do it. MR: There is no need to synchronize anything. A threaded web-based email client works just like you want. Still complaining about 200+ messages?? Well a forum would get as many anyways. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
You missed the most important: This list works, why break it? (Apart from a personal dislike of most forum formats - they're no improvement. I can ding down a list of emails a lot more quickly than clicking in and out of forum topics.) MT At 11:09 PM 11/4/2005, GamblerZG wrote: AFAIK, there are no official forums for PHP. Considering the fact that PHP is a web development tool, such distaste for message boards is ironic at the least. So why exactly there aren't any forums on php.net? I've monitored this list long enough to predict the most probable replies to this message. To save everybody some time, I will ansver them here, without waiting someone to key them in. Reply: There are forums on zend.com. My Reply: zend.com != php.com. R: There is a web interface for this mailing list. MR: You cant' post new messages there, and it's just another way of showing emails anyway. R: There is a newsgroup interface. MR: Yeah, I'm using it right now. But it requires special software, and is terribly slow, unless you have very good connection and moderately powerful PC. R: Forums suck, mailing lists rule. MR: Not if you don't like receiving 200 messages + spam every day. R: Synchronizing mail lists and forums is very difficult and nobody will do it. MR: There is no need to synchronize anything. -- Best regards, Roman S.I. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
AFAIK, there are no official forums for PHP. Considering the fact that PHP is a web development tool, such distaste for message boards is ironic at the least. So why exactly there aren't any forums on php.net? One of the fallacies in your argument is that the lack of an official forum on php.net implies such distaste for message boards. I don't have a big screen TV but I have anything but distaste for them! Also, you should realize that your question could be rephrased as Why hasn't someone else done all this extra work (creating and managing a forum) because I would prefer it? The obvious answer, which someone else has already suggested, is that maybe others (or those in charge of php.net) don't feel the need. In any case, if you are sincerely interested in either a support Web forum or a legitimate answer to your question, you may have better luck if your inquiry were more I would appreciate it if... or has an official forum been considered? and less this system that you've been using for years sucks and this is why I'm right. All that being said, I think everyone should send me $5. I've monitored this list long enough to predict the most probable replies... Larry -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
GamblerZG wrote: snip clap trap Here's one you missed. Not to your liking? Pony up a few bucks, register a domain, get a host, and start a forum yourself. Do it nice enough, and maybe, just maybe, you can be 'official'. -- By-Tor.com ...it's all about the Rush http://www.by-tor.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
Larry E. Ullman wrote: snip All that being said, I think everyone should send me $5. I've monitored this list long enough to predict the most probable replies... Bah, I've got 10 times the posts you do since 2002, just from this email address. 75% of that $5 goes to me. ;) -- By-Tor.com ...it's all about the Rush http://www.by-tor.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
Miles Thompson wrote: You missed the most important: This list works, why break it? Nope, I did not miss it. It's just not a proper reply to the message. I did not suggest to disable mailing lists or change them in any way, so the break factor does not apply. -- Best regards, Roman S.I. http://sf.net/projects/naturalgine/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 00:56, GamblerZG wrote: Miles Thompson wrote: You missed the most important: This list works, why break it? Nope, I did not miss it. It's just not a proper reply to the message. I did not suggest to disable mailing lists or change them in any way, so the break factor does not apply. Then you suggest fragmenting the list into 3 factions, those who would continue to use the list, those who would use the forum, and those who would use both. By such a fragmentation of the list, solutions and advice would be spread across multiple locations thus diluting the efficacy of the list. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
Larry E. Ullman wrote: One of the fallacies in your argument is that the lack of an official forum on php.net implies such distaste for message boards. I don't have a big screen TV but I have anything but distaste for them! Well, let me give you a different example. I don't have a TV at all, even though I could buy one. Knowing this, would you assume that I don't like watching it? The same thing with forum. It's a usual feature, just like website is. Would you be surprised if PHP had no website? Would you ask why it doesn't? Also, you should realize that your question could be rephrased as Why hasn't someone else done all this extra work (creating and managing a forum) because I would prefer it? Are you saying that I'm the only PHP user that might like discussing things on a forum? Again, forums are very common. Some people like them, other people like mailing lists. In case of PHP, I find the lack of forum weird, because it's a web development language. Besides, you're implying that maintaining forum is extra work, while maintaining mailing lists isn't. Extra work for extra users you can live without, eh? In any case, if you are sincerely interested in either a support Web forum or a legitimate answer to your question, you may have better luck if your inquiry were more I would appreciate it if... or has an official forum been considered? and less this system that you've been using for years sucks and this is why I'm right. I do not see anything horrible in my message. It's not like I'm _demanding_ something, or suggesting to tear down mailing lists. Neither did I suggest that mailing lists suck. In case of php.internals they totally make sense. But I _do_ think that forum efficient in case of high-volume messaging. -- Best regards, Roman S.I. http://sf.net/projects/naturalgine/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
Robert Cummings wrote: On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 00:56, GamblerZG wrote: Miles Thompson wrote: You missed the most important: This list works, why break it? Nope, I did not miss it. It's just not a proper reply to the message. I did not suggest to disable mailing lists or change them in any way, so the break factor does not apply. Then you suggest fragmenting the list into 3 factions, those who would continue to use the list, those who would use the forum, and those who would use both. By such a fragmentation of the list, solutions and advice would be spread across multiple locations thus diluting the efficacy of the list. I seriously doubt that giving people a choice over communication methods would reduce efficiency. It's like saying that having multiple OSes reduces efficiency of programming. -- Best regards, Roman S.I. http://sf.net/projects/naturalgine/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
PS: Sorry for missing verbs and articles in my last message. I have a good excuse: it't 2:22 AM here. *smilie* -- Best regards, Roman S.I. http://sf.net/projects/naturalgine/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 02:17, GamblerZG wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 00:56, GamblerZG wrote: Miles Thompson wrote: You missed the most important: This list works, why break it? Nope, I did not miss it. It's just not a proper reply to the message. I did not suggest to disable mailing lists or change them in any way, so the break factor does not apply. Then you suggest fragmenting the list into 3 factions, those who would continue to use the list, those who would use the forum, and those who would use both. By such a fragmentation of the list, solutions and advice would be spread across multiple locations thus diluting the efficacy of the list. I seriously doubt that giving people a choice over communication methods would reduce efficiency. It's like saying that having multiple OSes reduces efficiency of programming. I didn't use the word efficiency, I used the word efficacy (feel free to look it up). Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
Robert Cummings wrote: On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 02:17, GamblerZG wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 00:56, GamblerZG wrote: Miles Thompson wrote: You missed the most important: This list works, why break it? Nope, I did not miss it. It's just not a proper reply to the message. I did not suggest to disable mailing lists or change them in any way, so the break factor does not apply. Then you suggest fragmenting the list into 3 factions, those who would continue to use the list, those who would use the forum, and those who would use both. By such a fragmentation of the list, solutions and advice would be spread across multiple locations thus diluting the efficacy of the list. I seriously doubt that giving people a choice over communication methods would reduce efficiency. It's like saying that having multiple OSes reduces efficiency of programming. I didn't use the word efficiency, I used the word efficacy (feel free to look it up). Cheers, Rob. They're synonyms, and I do not see a big difference in their meanings. Feel free to disambiguate. -- Best regards, Roman S.I. http://sf.net/projects/naturalgine/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] No forums?
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 02:37, GamblerZG wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: I didn't use the word efficiency, I used the word efficacy (feel free to look it up). They're synonyms, and I do not see a big difference in their meanings. Feel free to disambiguate. Efficiency is about output versus input. Efficacy is about the ability to produce an effect regardless of input. While there is obviously a degree of overlap in their meaning, and while they can be considered synonyms due to that overlap, they are not the same. Just as gargantuan and large are synonyms, they are hardly the same thing in context. As any English teacher will tell you, rampantly replacing words in an essay with synonyms will quickly devolve the meaning into drivel. So now that I've cleared that up, the point I was making in a lot less words, is that by splitting the list into multiple places, one could expect less solutions to be in either place, and while the sum of the parts will probably be equal to the whole, the information would be dispersed and diluted thus reducing the effectiveness (not efficiency though I'm sure that would be reduced also) of both locations. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Technology Forums
Hi all, We've our new Technology Forums started from India. http://forums.mediasworks.com/ I invite you all to join our community. http://forums.mediasworks.com/ Thanks regards. This mail is not a SPAM or solicitation badly. This is a one-time notification news. You won't recieve this message again. Delete this message, if you don't like it. - Original Message - From: Jasper Bryant-Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Technology Forums
On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 02:20, anshul wrote: Hi all, We've our new Technology Forums started from India. http://forums.mediasworks.com/ I invite you all to join our community. http://forums.mediasworks.com/ My eyes, my eyes!!! It's like someone ran over kermit. FYI it's still spam since it's a big net to get people to use your forum... and while your forum does have a PHP category it also has a crapload of other unrelated categories. I for one would rather not go to such a diluted source for information. Cheers, Rob. Ps. Is it me or is the spam on PHP list growing rather rapidly of late? -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Technology Forums
Considering it dont even have 1 post... spam it is.. :P And yes i am getting a heap of spam recently... can someone do something about this.. :P CK On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 02:45 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote: On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 02:20, anshul wrote: Hi all, We've our new Technology Forums started from India. http://forums.mediasworks.com/ I invite you all to join our community. http://forums.mediasworks.com/ My eyes, my eyes!!! It's like someone ran over kermit. FYI it's still spam since it's a big net to get people to use your forum... and while your forum does have a PHP category it also has a crapload of other unrelated categories. I for one would rather not go to such a diluted source for information. Cheers, Rob. Ps. Is it me or is the spam on PHP list growing rather rapidly of late? -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Technology Forums
Hi, We've our new Technology Forums started from India. http://forums.mediasworks.com/ I invite you all to join our community. http://forums.mediasworks.com/ Thanks regards. This mail is not a SPAM or solicitation badly. This is a one-time notification news. You won't recieve this message again. Delete this message, if you don't like it. I would rather say go screw yourself you dirty spammer than just deleting it...but thats just me. -Ryan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Technology Forums
On Friday 01 July 2005 20:19, Ryan A wrote: I would rather say go screw yourself you dirty spammer than just deleting it...but thats just me. People, if you feel you *need* to respond to spam, could you please snip out the spam so that it doesn't receive more coverage than it deserves? -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- New Year Resolution: Ignore top posted posts -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Technology Forums
My bad, sorry. Have a habit of hitting the reply all button, used to only reply to the person who sent the email but then got told to reply to the list too as others too can follow the help thread.. so made a habit of that Damned if i do, damned if i dont :-) -Ryan I would rather say go screw yourself you dirty spammer than just deleting it...but thats just me. People, if you feel you *need* to respond to spam, could you please snip out the spam so that it doesn't receive more coverage than it deserves? -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- New Year Resolution: Ignore top posted posts -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Forums
Costs money too!? Steve Magruder - Webcommons.Org wrote: phpBB (www.phpbb.com) is the best (IMHO), as it has an extensive modder community and it's slap-easy to install and get running. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Forums
I personally prefer: http://www.chevelles.com/cgi-bin/forum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=39;hardset=;start_point=;DaysPrune= http://www.ubbcentral.com/ubbclassic/ But it does cost $ I believe. However, this particular site has a mutilated forum. Part of it was originally Perl. Their switch over was painful. Part is php, part is Perl. Counter-productive. But I like how it works. I also love being a chevelle owner :) http://www.chevelles.com/wagons/4-doors.html Two forums that I really like are: 1. the forum at DIVX.com (very very cool) 2. awforum.net (unfortunatly written in ASP..pain in the butt but easy to use as its really simple) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Forums
John Taylor-Johnston wrote: Costs money too!? How's that? Just go to the download page and download it. phpBB has always been free. Steve Magruder - Webcommons.Org wrote: phpBB (www.phpbb.com) is the best (IMHO), as it has an extensive modder community and it's slap-easy to install and get running. -- paperCrane Justin Patrin -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Forums
Ryan A wrote:
Hey,
Just spent 2 hours at hot scripts searching for a good forum
software, after going through 15 pages I found:
{snip}
The software HAS to be written in PHP coz its for a php discussion
site.
phpBB (www.phpbb.com) is the best (IMHO), as it has an extensive modder
community and it's slap-easy to install and get running.
--
Steve Magruder
www.webcommons.org
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[PHP] Re: [PHP-DB] Forums?
www.invisionboard.com is great thought the skinning takes some getitng used to. If you aren't out for the absolute best like IB, go with XMB. http://www.xmbforum.com/. I haven't used it much but I hear it's easy to skin, features are great, and all that. The admin panel is kind of hard to use but you get used to it rather quickly... - Original Message - From: Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jason Vincent' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 8:04 AM Subject: [PHP-DB] Forums? hey guys. a friend want help setting up a forum. what are some good easy to use ones out there? thanks -paul -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Creating forums in php
http://www.phorum.org ? Sincerely berber Visit http://www.weberdev.com Today!!! To see where PHP might take you tomorrow. -Original Message- From: Denis L. Menezes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Creating forums in php Hello friends, I am running a website having php and mysql support on which I want to set up a discussions forum. Can someone advise me any web resources for building a php-mysql forum? Thanks denis -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Creating forums in php
Maybe, http://www.phpbb.com -David. Boaz Yahav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... http://www.phorum.org ? Sincerely berber Visit http://www.weberdev.com Today!!! To see where PHP might take you tomorrow. -Original Message- From: Denis L. Menezes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Creating forums in php Hello friends, I am running a website having php and mysql support on which I want to set up a discussions forum. Can someone advise me any web resources for building a php-mysql forum? Thanks denis -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Creating forums in php
Hello friends, I am running a website having php and mysql support on which I want to set up a discussions forum. Can someone advise me any web resources for building a php-mysql forum? Thanks denis -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP Discussion Forums ?
Can someone here tell me who is responsible for the set up and maintenance of the PHP forums? I've yet to find anyone who does it better and I'd like to do something similar for the site I am responsible for. That is, the way the NNTP, mailing list and digest all works together so nicely. Ideally, I'd also like to include a web gateway to the NNTP server but it would be pretty amazing if I could get it as far as what the PHP site does. So anyway, I'd like to know what software is used, what part is scripted, basically what takes care of what in this great machine that is the PHP support network. Also I'd like to know of any and all PHP scripted NNTP gateways there might be out there that I do not know about. thanks, rob
Re: [PHP] php powered forums
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:34, kenny.hibs wrote: Don't know if this id the place to ask but Can anyone recommend a good php powered forum that I could use on my site. kenny Phorum - http://www.phorum.org/ -- David Robley| WEBMASTER Mail List Admin RESEARCH CENTRE FOR INJURY STUDIES | http://www.nisu.flinders.edu.au/ AusEinet| http://auseinet.flinders.edu.au/ Flinders University, ADELAIDE, SOUTH AUSTRALIA -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php powered forums
http://www.vbulletin.com/ Can anyone recommend a good php powered forum that I could use on my site. = -- Nick Terzich Creative Director - PopSmack, LLC Insane Advertising Posse http://www.popsmack.com/studio __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] php powered forums
Don't know if this id the place to ask but Can anyone recommend a good php powered forum that I could use on my site. kenny -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
