[PHP] Why don't webhosts upgrade to PHP5 ?

2005-12-07 Thread Pugi!
My webhost doesn't want to upgrade to PHP5 because of security reasons and
some scripts that will mallfunction. I find it hard to believe. Current conf
of webhost is PHP 4.3.11, Apache 1.3.33 and MySQL 3.23.49.
What real reasons could there be not to upgrade ?
How could I convince them to upgrade to PHP5 ?
(Less important for me : but why not upgrade to Apache 2.x and at least
MySQL 4.x ?)

Enlighten me,

Pugi!

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Re: [PHP] Why don't webhosts upgrade to PHP5 ?

2005-12-07 Thread Andy Pieters
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 08:37, Pugi! wrote:
 My webhost doesn't want to upgrade to PHP5 because of security reasons and
 some scripts that will mallfunction. I find it hard to believe. Current
 conf of webhost is PHP 4.3.11, Apache 1.3.33 and MySQL 3.23.49.
 What real reasons could there be not to upgrade ?
 How could I convince them to upgrade to PHP5 ?
 (Less important for me : but why not upgrade to Apache 2.x and at least
 MySQL 4.x ?)

1. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
2. PHP 4 has proven its worth.  Now that PHP 5 came out, there will be tons of 
bugs that aren't found yet.
3. PHP 5 *WILL* break some scripts, and most big suits like forums and shops 
and stuff will need a serious amount of work to convert to php 5

Same applies for Apache and MySQL.

Consider this, NASA still uses 386 cpu's in their space equipment because they 
are a lot more stable and mission secure then newer chipsets.

HTH

Andy


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Re: [PHP] Why don't webhosts upgrade to PHP5 ?

2005-12-07 Thread Jochem Maas

Andy Pieters wrote:

On Wednesday 07 December 2005 08:37, Pugi! wrote:


My webhost doesn't want to upgrade to PHP5 because of security reasons and
some scripts that will mallfunction. I find it hard to believe. Current


upgrade to php5 == scripts that will mallfunction == support calls == losing 
money.

thats how I see the ISPs view of upgrading to php5, regardless of
whether they are right for them it seems to be a simple matter of
economics and operational stability. you also have to consider the ammount of
work involved is purely performing the upgrade properly.


conf of webhost is PHP 4.3.11, Apache 1.3.33 and MySQL 3.23.49.
What real reasons could there be not to upgrade ?
How could I convince them to upgrade to PHP5 ?
(Less important for me : but why not upgrade to Apache 2.x and at least
MySQL 4.x ?)



1. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.


PHP4 _is_ broken in places. if it was perfect then there would be no need
for improvement.

2. PHP 4 has proven its worth.  Now that PHP 5 came out, there will be tons of 
bugs that aren't found yet.


rather defeatist attitude, and a point that cannot be truely substantiated. 
besides
there is a point when it becomes too difficult to successfully enchance or add 
features
to something (move forward) and you have to start 'fresh'.

3. PHP 5 *WILL* break some scripts, and most big suits like forums and shops 
and stuff will need a serious amount of work to convert to php 5


and some scripts are broken. there is a lot of code out there that is 
technically
evil (potential segfaults etc) so this cuts boths ways.

besides most apps [forums etc] out there arn't hard at all to convert -
the problem for the developers of such apps is more likely to be about releasing
versions that run on both (which is more difficult) or maintaining 2 releases, 
which
eat into your time.



Same applies for Apache and MySQL.

Consider this, NASA still uses 386 cpu's in their space equipment because they 
are a lot more stable and mission secure then newer chipsets.


are you sure its not because they have invested so much time and energy into
the hardware, software and procedures surrounding the cpus. refitting a space
shuttle is not done on a whim like your changing the cpu in the box under
your desk... comparitive stability wirth newer models doesn't factor in at all
if you consider that every part on a space shuttle could be assumed to only be
authorized for use after it's absolute stability has been proven.


HTH

Andy




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[PHP] Why don't my PHP variables get posted?

2002-08-15 Thread DonPro

Hi,

I have a small form with checkbox objects.  Below is the code:

form method=POST action=doc_complete.html
input type=checkbox name=b13 value=checked
font size=3Export Declaration (B13)/fontbr
input type=checkbox name=\cinvoice\ value=checked
font size=3Commercial Invoice/font
p align=left
input type=submit value=Continue gt;gt;gt;/p
/form

In the past, I could access the two fields in doc_complete.html by using
PHP as in: $b13 and $cinvoice

However, when I added the code:
?PHP
session_cache_limiter('private, must-revalidate');
session_start();
?

to the top of doc_complete.html, I can no longer access the variables
properly, i.e., they do not give the correct results.  For some reason, they
seem to retain the first posting set.

Help,
Don




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Re: [PHP] Why don't ...

2001-12-17 Thread Yoel Benitez Fonseca

H!

Thank you, but yuor fragment of code read all file and
I'm really want is read an integer from the file. There
are some fuction of PHP thas serve me to make that?

Rasmus Lerdorf said:
 Is your second character perhaps a 0?  That while loop is going to end
 as  soon as it gets a character that evaluates to 0.  Write it like
 this  instead:

 while(!feof($this-m_file)) {
$c = fgetc($this-m_file);
if(is_numeric($c)) $str .= $c;
 }

 -Rasmus

 On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, Yoel Benitez Fonseca wrote:

 Hi!

 The following code fragment tries to read a sequence of digits from a
 file but it doesn't work, only the first character is read,
 Which is my error?.


$str = ;
while( ($c = fgetc($this-m_file))  ereg([0-9], $c) ){
$str .= $c;
}


 Thank you in advance




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[PHP] Why don't ...

2001-12-16 Thread Yoel Benitez Fonseca

Hi!

The following code fragment tries to read a sequence of digits from
a file but it doesn't work, only the first character is read,
Which is my error?.


   $str = ;
   while( ($c = fgetc($this-m_file))  ereg([0-9], $c) ){
   $str .= $c;
   }


Thank you in advance

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Re: [PHP] Why don't ...

2001-12-16 Thread Michael Sims

At 09:14 AM 12/16/2001 -0500, Yoel Benitez Fonseca wrote:
Hi!

The following code fragment tries to read a sequence of digits from
a file but it doesn't work, only the first character is read,
Which is my error?.


$str = ;
while( ($c = fgetc($this-m_file))  ereg([0-9], $c) ){
$str .= $c;
}

What happens when you do just this:

$str = ;
while($c = fgetc($this-m_file)){
 $str .= $c;
}

Does it still only read the first character?


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Re: [PHP] Why don't ...

2001-12-16 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf

Is your second character perhaps a 0?  That while loop is going to end as 
soon as it gets a character that evaluates to 0.  Write it like this 
instead:

while(!feof($this-m_file)) {
$c = fgetc($this-m_file);
if(is_numeric($c)) $str .= $c;
}

-Rasmus

On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, Yoel Benitez Fonseca wrote:

 Hi!
 
 The following code fragment tries to read a sequence of digits from
 a file but it doesn't work, only the first character is read,
 Which is my error?.
 
 
$str = ;
while( ($c = fgetc($this-m_file))  ereg([0-9], $c) ){
$str .= $c;
}
 
 
 Thank you in advance
 
 


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