Re: [PHP] mailing list managers

2002-08-14 Thread David T-G

Justin, Michael, et al --

...and then Michael Sims said...
% 
% On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 01:09:32 +1000, you wrote:
% 
% I was hoping that maybe there's an opensource or commercial product out
% there that I can install in my doc root (ie, PHP + MySQL support) which will
% handle this in a more effective manner (ie, space the mailout across an hour
% or so, etc etc).
% 
% Take a look at some of the dedicated mailing list managers, and see if

I would agree here.  Use a real mailing list manager instead of trying to
roll your own.


% perhaps you can modify them to get their subscriber list from your
% database.  EZMLM by all accounts is very nice, although I believe it
% requires Qmail.  Majordomo is another option.

While it doesn't truly *require* qmail, that's nonetheless a fairly
accurate statement.  It is, however, very robust and easy to use.


% 
% If you don't want the complexity of those types of programs, look at
% some Perl-based solutions.  I've been learning Perl as time allows,
% and I've found that it's not too difficult if you're already a PHP
% person to pick up Perl.  A search on www.hotscripts.com or
% www.freshmeat.net may turn up something.

Absolutely agreed; the languages are very similar.  [Rumor has it that
php is perl-based or perl-inspired, but I haven't done any independent
digging to see one way or another -- and there are *some* noticeable
differences.]


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[PHP] mailing list managers

2002-08-13 Thread Justin French

Hi all,

Just a quick note to see if anyone has any experience with mailing list
managers.

I've currently got a DB of subscribers, and basic PHP scripts are not going
to be a good long-term solution.

I was hoping that maybe there's an opensource or commercial product out
there that I can install in my doc root (ie, PHP + MySQL support) which will
handle this in a more effective manner (ie, space the mailout across an hour
or so, etc etc).

Or alternatively, somebody might recommend a service such as sparklist.com
(but cheaper, since they're targeting a list with greater numbers  a
minimum of $50/month).

TIA,

Justin French


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Re: [PHP] mailing list managers

2002-08-13 Thread Miles Thompson

Justin,

Have a look at PostMyMail, although it's designed to work with PostNuke. 
Have no idea if it can run stanadalone.

I also wrote a clunky one in Python - it grabbed the addresses from a 
database and sent each individually. Python has a very nice SMTP module. By 
clunky I mean it didn't have an interface, I edited the source for the 
script every time I sent a mail. No problem, as it was a proof of concept.

Mightn't there be something at Hotscripts?

HTH - Miles Thompson

At 01:09 AM 8/14/2002 +1000, Justin French wrote:
Hi all,

Just a quick note to see if anyone has any experience with mailing list
managers.

I've currently got a DB of subscribers, and basic PHP scripts are not going
to be a good long-term solution.

I was hoping that maybe there's an opensource or commercial product out
there that I can install in my doc root (ie, PHP + MySQL support) which will
handle this in a more effective manner (ie, space the mailout across an hour
or so, etc etc).

Or alternatively, somebody might recommend a service such as sparklist.com
(but cheaper, since they're targeting a list with greater numbers  a
minimum of $50/month).

TIA,

Justin French


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Re: [PHP] mailing list managers

2002-08-13 Thread Michael Sims

On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 01:09:32 +1000, you wrote:

I was hoping that maybe there's an opensource or commercial product out
there that I can install in my doc root (ie, PHP + MySQL support) which will
handle this in a more effective manner (ie, space the mailout across an hour
or so, etc etc).

Take a look at some of the dedicated mailing list managers, and see if
perhaps you can modify them to get their subscriber list from your
database.  EZMLM by all accounts is very nice, although I believe it
requires Qmail.  Majordomo is another option.

If you don't want the complexity of those types of programs, look at
some Perl-based solutions.  I've been learning Perl as time allows,
and I've found that it's not too difficult if you're already a PHP
person to pick up Perl.  A search on www.hotscripts.com or
www.freshmeat.net may turn up something.

I'm using a very basic Perl-based mailing list manager called
Minimalist, which I am modifying to read it's subscriber list from a
database.  It may be too simple for your needs, however, as it does
not do any spacing of mail delivery or anything like that...but in
case it's useful in some way here is the URL:

http://www.mml.org.ua/

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