Re: [PHP] Re: poor HTML syntax crashing (!) netscape
Thanks for the offer... trouble was I took over a poorly designed project which had to be expanded v quickly I agree entirely .. syntax is key.. ended up restructuring the code from scratch... quicker then trying to hack the old. PHP will roll over and die if you leave a ';' off the end of a line, but no one claims it sucks. Don't shoot the messenger I wasn't blaming NS for not handling the HTMl, I just found it quite surprising that poor syntax can cause the entire browser to crash! A better comparison is a ';' missing in PHP causing the PHP engine to just shut down! As a foot note... it was a table problem.. one bug in a nested table (in an included included include file) that was causing it!! Thanks Tom -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Re: poor HTML syntax crashing (!) netscape
Yes Netscape will be a problem for poor code and MSIE will not. HTML is very straightforward like any other language, learn to write it properly and it will do nothing that surprises you. A requirement for proper syntax is a good thing in your delivery method (the browser). PHP will roll over and die if you leave a ';' off the end of a line, but no one claims it sucks. Don't shoot the messenger View the offending page in MSIE, save to file, send to me directly, and I'll be happy to take a look at it for you. We are a cross platform shop and test everything on MSIE/Netscape 4+ on Mac, Windows, and Unix/Linux every day. DAve on 7/8/01 2:52 PM, Christian Calloway at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had the same problem with Netscape, where it would crash/choke on any platform. I never figured it out, but it has something to do with Netscape choking on your HTML, it has nothing to do with CSS or Javascript or PHP for that matter. I'm not an IE fan, but lets face it, Netscape sucks. Tom Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 02bb01c103fe$c51d1ac0$0a00a8c0@bjorn">news:02bb01c103fe$c51d1ac0$0a00a8c0@bjorn... Hi guys, I have an interesting situation at the moment... my (slightly sloppy) HTML is obviously missing a closing tag here or there but displays fine in opera, ie etc however when I try and view it netscape (4.x, windows, linux, any platform) netscape just nice and cleanly crashes!! If anyone knows of a bug which would cause netscape to do this then please let me know. The code in question is very dynamic (what I mean is that it can vary by quite a lot depending upon many many different things). Its qutie hard to debug, especially seeing as the page returned is browser specific.. the one thing I have ruled out is that it is JavaScript.. I removed all of that and no change. Any tips will be helpful... in the meanwhile I'm going to go thru all my functions to attempt to work out what is doing it *yawn* TIA Tom. -- Dave Goodrich Director of Interface Development Reality Based Learning Company 9521 NE Willows Road, Suite 100 Redmond, WA 98052 Toll Free 1-877-869-6603 ext. 237 Fax (425) 558-5655 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rblc.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Re: poor HTML syntax crashing (!) netscape
Even better, to save Dave some time, go to www.w3c.org They have an html validator there...it's strict, but that's the point... jack -Original Message- From: DAve Goodrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 9:00 PM To: Christian Calloway; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: poor HTML syntax crashing (!) netscape Yes Netscape will be a problem for poor code and MSIE will not. HTML is very straightforward like any other language, learn to write it properly and it will do nothing that surprises you. A requirement for proper syntax is a good thing in your delivery method (the browser). PHP will roll over and die if you leave a ';' off the end of a line, but no one claims it sucks. Don't shoot the messenger View the offending page in MSIE, save to file, send to me directly, and I'll be happy to take a look at it for you. We are a cross platform shop and test everything on MSIE/Netscape 4+ on Mac, Windows, and Unix/Linux every day. DAve on 7/8/01 2:52 PM, Christian Calloway at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had the same problem with Netscape, where it would crash/choke on any platform. I never figured it out, but it has something to do with Netscape choking on your HTML, it has nothing to do with CSS or Javascript or PHP for that matter. I'm not an IE fan, but lets face it, Netscape sucks. Tom Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 02bb01c103fe$c51d1ac0$0a00a8c0@bjorn">news:02bb01c103fe$c51d1ac0$0a00a8c0@bjorn... Hi guys, I have an interesting situation at the moment... my (slightly sloppy) HTML is obviously missing a closing tag here or there but displays fine in opera, ie etc however when I try and view it netscape (4.x, windows, linux, any platform) netscape just nice and cleanly crashes!! If anyone knows of a bug which would cause netscape to do this then please let me know. The code in question is very dynamic (what I mean is that it can vary by quite a lot depending upon many many different things). Its qutie hard to debug, especially seeing as the page returned is browser specific.. the one thing I have ruled out is that it is JavaScript.. I removed all of that and no change. Any tips will be helpful... in the meanwhile I'm going to go thru all my functions to attempt to work out what is doing it *yawn* TIA Tom. -- Dave Goodrich Director of Interface Development Reality Based Learning Company 9521 NE Willows Road, Suite 100 Redmond, WA 98052 Toll Free 1-877-869-6603 ext. 237 Fax (425) 558-5655 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rblc.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Re: poor HTML syntax crashing (!) netscape
I completely agree, Dave... I use IE 6 for browsing, but when I develop sites, I always test them for backwards compatibility all the way down to Netscape 3.0. If your site renders properly in NS 3.0, then you can rest assured it will render correctly for the majority of web users out there. -Original Message- From: DAve Goodrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 9:00 PM To: Christian Calloway; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: poor HTML syntax crashing (!) netscape Yes Netscape will be a problem for poor code and MSIE will not. HTML is very straightforward like any other language, learn to write it properly and it will do nothing that surprises you. A requirement for proper syntax is a good thing in your delivery method (the browser). PHP will roll over and die if you leave a ';' off the end of a line, but no one claims it sucks. Don't shoot the messenger View the offending page in MSIE, save to file, send to me directly, and I'll be happy to take a look at it for you. We are a cross platform shop and test everything on MSIE/Netscape 4+ on Mac, Windows, and Unix/Linux every day. DAve on 7/8/01 2:52 PM, Christian Calloway at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had the same problem with Netscape, where it would crash/choke on any platform. I never figured it out, but it has something to do with Netscape choking on your HTML, it has nothing to do with CSS or Javascript or PHP for that matter. I'm not an IE fan, but lets face it, Netscape sucks. Tom Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 02bb01c103fe$c51d1ac0$0a00a8c0@bjorn">news:02bb01c103fe$c51d1ac0$0a00a8c0@bjorn... Hi guys, I have an interesting situation at the moment... my (slightly sloppy) HTML is obviously missing a closing tag here or there but displays fine in opera, ie etc however when I try and view it netscape (4.x, windows, linux, any platform) netscape just nice and cleanly crashes!! If anyone knows of a bug which would cause netscape to do this then please let me know. The code in question is very dynamic (what I mean is that it can vary by quite a lot depending upon many many different things). Its qutie hard to debug, especially seeing as the page returned is browser specific.. the one thing I have ruled out is that it is JavaScript.. I removed all of that and no change. Any tips will be helpful... in the meanwhile I'm going to go thru all my functions to attempt to work out what is doing it *yawn* TIA Tom. -- Dave Goodrich Director of Interface Development Reality Based Learning Company 9521 NE Willows Road, Suite 100 Redmond, WA 98052 Toll Free 1-877-869-6603 ext. 237 Fax (425) 558-5655 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rblc.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Re: poor HTML syntax crashing (!) netscape
you could also try http://css.nu/pointers/bugs.html if you are using style sheets Nick At 09:08 8/07/01 -0400, you wrote: Even better, to save Dave some time, go to www.w3c.org They have an html validator there...it's strict, but that's the point... jack -Original Message- From: DAve Goodrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 9:00 PM To: Christian Calloway; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: poor HTML syntax crashing (!) netscape Yes Netscape will be a problem for poor code and MSIE will not. HTML is very straightforward like any other language, learn to write it properly and it will do nothing that surprises you. A requirement for proper syntax is a good thing in your delivery method (the browser). PHP will roll over and die if you leave a ';' off the end of a line, but no one claims it sucks. Don't shoot the messenger View the offending page in MSIE, save to file, send to me directly, and I'll be happy to take a look at it for you. We are a cross platform shop and test everything on MSIE/Netscape 4+ on Mac, Windows, and Unix/Linux every day. DAve on 7/8/01 2:52 PM, Christian Calloway at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had the same problem with Netscape, where it would crash/choke on any platform. I never figured it out, but it has something to do with Netscape choking on your HTML, it has nothing to do with CSS or Javascript or PHP for that matter. I'm not an IE fan, but lets face it, Netscape sucks. Tom Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 02bb01c103fe$c51d1ac0$0a00a8c0@bjorn">news:02bb01c103fe$c51d1ac0$0a00a8c0@bjorn... Hi guys, I have an interesting situation at the moment... my (slightly sloppy) HTML is obviously missing a closing tag here or there but displays fine in opera, ie etc however when I try and view it netscape (4.x, windows, linux, any platform) netscape just nice and cleanly crashes!! If anyone knows of a bug which would cause netscape to do this then please let me know. The code in question is very dynamic (what I mean is that it can vary by quite a lot depending upon many many different things). Its qutie hard to debug, especially seeing as the page returned is browser specific.. the one thing I have ruled out is that it is JavaScript.. I removed all of that and no change. Any tips will be helpful... in the meanwhile I'm going to go thru all my functions to attempt to work out what is doing it *yawn* TIA Tom. -- Dave Goodrich Director of Interface Development Reality Based Learning Company 9521 NE Willows Road, Suite 100 Redmond, WA 98052 Toll Free 1-877-869-6603 ext. 237 Fax (425) 558-5655 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rblc.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Re: poor HTML syntax crashing (!) netscape
I completely agree, Dave... I use IE 6 for browsing, but when I develop sites, I always test them for backwards compatibility all the way down to Netscape 3.0. If your site renders properly in NS 3.0, then you can rest assured it will render correctly for the majority of web users out there. I also test my page for netscape compatibility, but only down to 4.7 and to make sure it looks good in version 6 as well. Personally i perfer IEbeta6 for personal browsing. -Adam -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
