Re: [PHP] session.gc_maxlifetime

2005-09-13 Thread Gustav Wiberg


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From: Gustav Wiberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi there!




This setting...
session.gc_maxlifetime can only be set in php.ini
Default = 1440 = 24 minutes
is the time before a cookie expires? Is this right?




I don't have access to php.ini because it's not my server



(it's my webhost)
What's the solution to that? I want the cookie to last as



long as set inte



setcookie...




Please help... I'm a little confused here...


Surely it is:

session.cookie_lifetime: specifies the lifetime of the cookie in seconds
which is sent to the browser. The value 0 means until the browser is
closed. Defaults to 0.

Also, I thought you could use ini_set to change your php.ini configuration
for your current script.

But I could be wrong... Did I miss read the manual?




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Hi again!

Yes, I were able to change with ini_set...

I wrote it like this... Is it good? or bad?
ini_set('session.cookie_lifetime',2147483647);

I wrote that code in a script... But that won't effect the server 
configruation would it? Because when I try to get values from phpinfo() then 
'session.cookie_lifetime' is still 0.


How do I know that it works? Is there any way of viewing the new value?

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RE: [PHP] session.gc_maxlifetime

2005-09-09 Thread Shaw, Chris - Accenture

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 From: Gustav Wiberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Hi there!


 This setting...
 session.gc_maxlifetime can only be set in php.ini
 Default = 1440 = 24 minutes
 is the time before a cookie expires? Is this right?


 I don't have access to php.ini because it's not my server

 (it's my webhost)
 What's the solution to that? I want the cookie to last as

 long as set inte

 setcookie...


 Please help... I'm a little confused here...

Surely it is:

session.cookie_lifetime: specifies the lifetime of the cookie in seconds
which is sent to the browser. The value 0 means until the browser is
closed. Defaults to 0.

Also, I thought you could use ini_set to change your php.ini configuration
for your current script.

But I could be wrong... Did I miss read the manual?




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RE: [PHP] session.gc_maxlifetime

2005-09-09 Thread Kirk . Johnson
 Also, I thought you could use ini_set to change your php.ini 
configuration
 for your current script.
 
 But I could be wrong... Did I miss read the manual?

ini_set() can be used to change *some* settings. Some items that are 
configured in php.ini come into play before the script is parsed, and so 
ini_set() can't affect those.

Kirk

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Re: [PHP] Session.gc_maxlifetime?

2004-10-04 Thread Marek Kilimajer
Suhas wrote:
Hello,
I just want to make sure that I understand this concept.
When i read thr' docs,
session.gc_maxlifetime specifies the number of seconds after which
data will be seen as 'garbage' and cleaned up
and default value is 1440.
My guess is :
A.  1440 seconds from last visit to the page (where session id is used), 
B. 1440 seconds from session_start() function call
C is correct - 1440 seconds from session_write_close(), either called 
explicitly by your script or implicitly when your script ends. But it 
happens not long after session_start(), so you might consider it the same.

My general understanding is a session can be idle for 1440 seconds. If
a php page tried to refer to a session which is been idle more than
1440 seconds, there is very little chance that page will access to
session data.
You are right
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RE: [PHP] Session.gc_maxlifetime?

2004-10-04 Thread Vail, Warren
This is my understanding;

When you use session_start(); in your script it sets a condition that will
cause a session write of the contents of the $_SESSION array to the session
repository (by default a file whose name contains the session ID) when the
script has ended.  At that time the record timestamp (file last modified
date/time) should be modified or reset to the current time.  To answer your
question below, I believe technically the timestamp is very close to the
script end time for a script containing a session_start() call (not the
actual time of the session_start() call is executed).

Periodically the gc (garbage cleanup) process is invoked, at which time all
sessions whose timestamp is checked to see how old they are and if they
precede the current timestamp minus the gc_maxlifetime value, they are to be
removed from the repository.

Notice that the processing above is accomplished when the script has ended
(sent it's last output to the browser).  By invoking the gc process at this
time it never has a direct impact on the response time or the users
experience, unless they are awfully fast with the mouse.  I have in the past
found that the GC routines are not invoked every invocation of a script, but
rather a probability factor causes the GC routine to be invoked on only
some percentage of the calls to session start to avoid adding needless load
to the server (i.e. say 10% of all script executions may trigger a call to
the GC routine).  To offset this I had to make sure that when
session_start() retrieved old session values (session_read), I had to add
checks to make sure I wasn't reading an old session that had expired but had
just not been cleaned up yet.

You can learn a lot about sessions by coding and testing your own
session_handler routines;

http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.session-set-save-handler.php

There are lots of other good tutorials in books on php programming.

Warren Vail


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From: Suhas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:30 AM
To: php-general
Subject: [PHP] Session.gc_maxlifetime?


Hello,

I just want to make sure that I understand this concept.

When i read thr' docs,

session.gc_maxlifetime specifies the number of seconds after which data will
be seen as 'garbage' and cleaned up

and default value is 1440.

My guess is :

A.  1440 seconds from last visit to the page (where session id is used), 
B. 1440 seconds from session_start() function call

My general understanding is a session can be idle for 1440 seconds. If a php
page tried to refer to a session which is been idle more than 1440 seconds,
there is very little chance that page will access to session data.


Can any one please explain or send links or more docs on this?

Thanks in adv,

Suhas

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Re: [PHP] Session.gc_maxlifetime?

2004-10-04 Thread John Holmes
 From: Suhas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 My general understanding is a session can be idle for 
 1440 seconds. If a php page tried to refer to a session
 which is been idle more than
 1440 seconds, there is very little chance that page will
 access to session data.

Not quite. As long as a session file exists that matches the session ID passed to the 
page, it'll load the data. This occurs even if the session file is older than the 
maxlifetime limit. 

Here's how this works. By default, there is a 1% chance that a visit to a page with 
session_start() will trigger garbage collection. _IF_ garbage collection is triggered, 
it'll look in the session directory and delete session files that older than the 
maxlifetime setting (using the last access time, i think). If a request is made for a 
session ID whose matching file has been deleted, then the file is just created again, 
empty. 

Since garbage collection is triggered randomly, some session files can live for over 
the maxlifetime setting. If you have low traffic to your site, the 1% chance of 
triggering garbage collection may only occur every couple hours. So session lifetime 
will effectively be anywhere from 1440 seconds to hours. If you have a high-traffic 
site, then the lifetimes stay around the maxlifetime limit and only go over slightly. 

If you want to ensure sessions are timed out at a set time, then store the time the 
session is created within the session itself, check it upon each access for a time 
out, and update the time upon each user action. I prefer the good enough solution 
of garbage collection, though, since most programs don't require a hard time out value.

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Re: [PHP] session.gc_maxlifetime

2004-03-25 Thread Richard Davey
Hello Jeff,

Thursday, March 25, 2004, 2:40:04 PM, you wrote:

JS I'm just wondering about this setting for the Session management
JS functionality. To wit, will the session timer keep getting 'reset', so
JS that as long as a user is still accessing my site, the session doesn't
JS expire? Or will the session 'die' after the amount of time specified by
JS this setting, regardless of whether they have recently accessed the site?

The session is reset each time they load another page on your site
that uses it (providing they didn't close their browser and/or wait
too long), so yes - you are correct :)

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Re: [PHP] session.gc_maxlifetime

2001-03-21 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki

It depends on your requirement. For me 1440 sec is too short.
I'll set it to little over 1 hour because login timeout is 1 hour.

If you have login/logout system using session, the value better to be
larger than login timeout.

Regards,

PS: You might want to set gc probability around 10%. Depends on your
requirement, though.

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