php-general Digest 10 Dec 2010 13:27:02 - Issue 7079
Topics (messages 309938 through 309948):
PHP 5.2.15 Released!
309938 by: Ilia Alshanetsky
Re: ORM doctrine
309939 by: Larry Garfield
309940 by: Daevid Vincent
309941 by: Tommy Pham
309942 by: Paul
php-general Digest 11 Dec 2010 01:37:02 - Issue 7080
Topics (messages 309949 through 309960):
Re: ORM doctrine
309949 by: Robert Cummings
309951 by: Lester Caine
309952 by: tedd
309953 by: Tommy Pham
309954 by: Joshua Kehn
309955 by:
I see that the ORM thread has generated a broad-ranging discussion. Some of
the posts have discussed the utility of frameworks and/or libraries, and
because it's Friday, I thought I'd toss out my observations on the subject
and see what ideas those on the list had regarding the subject.
-Original Message-
From: Philip Thompson [mailto:philthath...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:59 PM
To: php-general List
Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Paul M Foster wrote:
On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 07:41:32PM -0800, Daevid Vincent
-Original Message-
From: Adam Richardson [mailto:simples...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:05 AM
To: PHP-General
Subject: [PHP] A general discussion of libraries and frameworks
I see that the ORM thread has generated a broad-ranging discussion. Some
of the posts
On 10 December 2010 12:07, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
Ironically, both projects are started by the same person.
So that old adage of there being at least 2 PHP frameworks per PHP
developer still holds true!
--
Richard Quadling
Twitter : EE : Zend
@RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html :
From: Adam Richardson
As one point of curiosity, I'm wondering when a function or group of
functions is, in your eyes, deemed a library. I tend to use the
pornography
approach to identifying a library (I know it when I see it), but I'm
sure
there's a more formal analysis. For some, maybe
On 10-12-09 10:41 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote:
-Original Message-
If you value CPU time over developer time, by all means avoid ORM
frameworks (and *all* frameworks). The point of a common
framework is to
trade a small bit of performance for a large amount of
developer time. If
you
At 7:04 PM + 12/8/10, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
I'd also check any errors logs for this site made by Apache, as that
will tell you where PHP is falling over. If you have access to the
whole server run a 'tail -f' command in a terminal and go to your
site again in the browser, that way, you'll
Robert Cummings wrote:
Use PHP the way God intended it to be used.
Could you cite a reference for where God states his intentions on PHP?
Any PHP developers BLOG ;)
We are all gods ...
--
Lester Caine - G8HFL
-
Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact
At 9:53 AM -0500 12/10/10, Robert Cummings wrote:
On 10-12-09 10:41 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote:
Use PHP the way God intended it to be used.
Could you cite a reference for where God states his intentions on PHP?
Thanks,
Rob.
Mark:7:34
And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him,
-Original Message-
From: tedd [mailto:tedd.sperl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 8:20 AM
To: Robert Cummings; Daevid Vincent
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
At 9:53 AM -0500 12/10/10, Robert Cummings wrote:
On 10-12-09 10:41 PM, Daevid
On Dec 10, 2010, at 11:20 AM, tedd wrote:
At 9:53 AM -0500 12/10/10, Robert Cummings wrote:
On 10-12-09 10:41 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote:
Use PHP the way God intended it to be used.
Could you cite a reference for where God states his intentions on PHP?
Thanks,
Rob.
Mark:7:34
And
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Bob McConnell r...@cbord.com wrote:
From: Adam Richardson
As one point of curiosity, I'm wondering when a function or group of
functions is, in your eyes, deemed a library. I tend to use the
pornography
approach to identifying a library (I know it when I
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com wrote:
I disagree. If you use a framework, then you're stuck with it. Bugs and all
(and trust me there are bugs and limitations you WILL run into).
I have fixed bugs locally in third party libraries; I have submitted them
for
I think I didn't hit reply-all. PICNIC moment :D
-Original Message-
From: Tommy Pham [mailto:tommy...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 11:01 AM
To: Adam Richardson
Subject: Re: [PHP] A general discussion of libraries and frameworks
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Adam
Ok, so what is echo, and how is it different from print.
The code in code quest used echo. I have a copy of learning php 5.0 from
O'Reilly, and noplace does it mention echo. Why? What's the difference?
IS there a difference? Is there an advantage to either? Please clarify
for this newbie.
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