Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-12 Thread Paul M Foster
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:23:11AM -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: > > I used $html =<< HTML+PHP in Vim, and as many know, almost everything I do is from the > command line and Vim. Vim FTW! (And mutt for the pwnage!) Paul -- Paul M. Foster -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-12 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 03:08, Eddie Drapkin wrote: > > Two things: > 1) I've never head of an email list changing their rules to cater to a > fringe crowd, like Nokia 6020 users. > 2) Why does every thread lately degrade into chatter about top/bottom > posting? *looks RIGHT AT D. Brown* Re: (

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-12 Thread tedd
At 5:16 AM +0530 7/12/09, Zareef Ahmed wrote: I always said : Being good and Being FORCED to be good are two different things... and PHP normally don't force us to be good that why PHP is the most popular programming language with a large code base which WORKS but not as per the standard or

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-12 Thread Lenin
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Eddie Drapkin wrote: > 2) Why does every thread lately degrade into chatter about top/bottom > posting? *looks RIGHT AT D. Brown* > Ask him :D :P

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-12 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Lenin wrote: > On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Daniel Brown wrote: >> >> > Sorry for TOP posting This mailing list also don't force us to be >> > good >> > :) >> >>    FORCE, no.  ENCOURAGE, yes.  Particularly in long threads like >> this one.  Check the rule

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-12 Thread Lenin
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Daniel Brown wrote: > > > Sorry for TOP posting This mailing list also don't force us to be > good > > :) > > FORCE, no. ENCOURAGE, yes. Particularly in long threads like > this one. Check the rules. They're not just there to take up space > on the p

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 19:46, Zareef Ahmed wrote: > I always said :  Being good and Being FORCED to be good  are two different > things... and PHP normally don't force us to be good that why PHP is the > most popular programming language with a large code base which WORKS but > not as per the stan

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Zareef Ahmed
I always said : Being good and Being FORCED to be good are two different things... and PHP normally don't force us to be good that why PHP is the most popular programming language with a large code base which WORKS but not as per the standard or recommended way ; so keep you old code as long as i

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 5:37 PM, tedd wrote: > At 3:34 AM +0700 7/12/09, Lenin wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Eddie Drapkin wrote: >> >>>  On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Govinda >> >>  > wrote: >>  > > what does "EOT" stand for? >>> >>>  > (I realize that string can be anything..

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 17:37, tedd wrote: > > I'm sure some clever person could come up with something better. Probably not. Now, on to NOWDOC -- daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/ Check out our great hosting and dedi

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread tedd
At 3:34 AM +0700 7/12/09, Lenin wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Eddie Drapkin wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Govinda > wrote: > > what does "EOT" stand for? > (I realize that string can be anything.. but I am just asking what EOT > > means to everyone? > > I just us

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Lenin
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Eddie Drapkin wrote: > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Govinda > wrote: > > On Jul 11, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Eddie Drapkin wrote: > > > >> $foo = << >> $bar[hello] > >> EOT; > > > > what does "EOT" stand for? > > (I realize that string can be anything.. but I am ju

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Govinda wrote: > On Jul 11, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Eddie Drapkin wrote: > >> $foo = <<> $bar[hello] >> EOT; > > what does "EOT" stand for? > (I realize that string can be anything..  but I am just asking what EOT > means to everyone? I just use it as "End of Term" bec

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Govinda
On Jul 11, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Eddie Drapkin wrote: $foo = << what does "EOT" stand for? (I realize that string can be anything.. but I am just asking what EOT means to everyone? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 14:15, Eddie Drapkin wrote: > [snip!] > which would be cast to a string (as an undefined constant) and then [snip!] That's exactly the point I was waiting for someone to make. I wanted someone to question why it was a Bad Idea[TM] to leave the key unquoted and typecast

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Daniel Brown wrote: > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 13:45, Eddie Drapkin wrote: >> >> If that's true, then we've found an error reporting bug! I've never >> seen an error/warning raised, even with my usual >> "error_reporting(E_ALL | E_STRICT | E_DEPRACATED)"!  The warnin

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 13:45, Eddie Drapkin wrote: > > If that's true, then we've found an error reporting bug! I've never > seen an error/warning raised, even with my usual > "error_reporting(E_ALL | E_STRICT | E_DEPRACATED)"!  The warning is > raised here, though: > $foo = $bar[hello]; > > but n

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Daniel Brown wrote: > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 13:35, Daniel Brown wrote: >> >>    It works fine because you're forcing PHP to cast 'hello' in your >> array from a simple boolean TRUE to the string equivalent. > >    sed "s/string equivalent/literal 'hello' string/g"

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 13:26, Eddie Drapkin wrote: > > Uhm you don't need braces around arrays unless you're using more > than one dimension in the array. > > This works perfectly fine for me: > > $bar = array('hello' => "goodbye"); > > $foo = << $bar[hello] > EOT; > > echo $foo;  //echos out

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 13:35, Daniel Brown wrote: > >    It works fine because you're forcing PHP to cast 'hello' in your > array from a simple boolean TRUE to the string equivalent. sed "s/string equivalent/literal 'hello' string/g" (The way I'd worded it before seemed to me, upon re-re

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Daniel Brown wrote: > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:42, Ashley Sheridan > wrote: >> >> The braces ensure that PHP doesn't stop parsing the variable name once it >> reaches the [. By default, it will only match a variable name up to the [ >> sign, so you couldn't acce

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread tedd
At 11:23 AM -0400 7/11/09, Daniel Brown wrote: and as many know, almost everything I do is from the command line I stopped using the command-line when I moved from my old Apple ][ to the Mac. I know I should get back into it, but there is so much there it's overwhelming. Using the terminal c

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Saturday 11 July 2009 16:23:11 Daniel Brown wrote: > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:05, tedd wrote: > > Side note: Paul Novitski showed me using an underscore for heredocs: > > > > $html =<<<_ > > whatever > > _; > > > > That I thought was kind of neat. To me it makes heredocs stand out and > > are

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Saturday 11 July 2009 16:05:55 tedd wrote: > At 3:42 PM +0100 7/11/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > >On Saturday 11 July 2009 15:23:55 tedd wrote: > > > At 8:34 PM -0400 7/10/09, Daniel Brown wrote: > > > >-snip- > > > > > >$html =<< >> > > >> >File Name: {$filedata['name']} > >> >File Size: {$

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:05, tedd wrote: > > Side note: Paul Novitski showed me using an underscore for heredocs: > > $html =<<<_ > whatever > _; > > That I thought was kind of neat. To me it makes heredocs stand out and are > more uniform. I used $html =<< daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread tedd
At 3:42 PM +0100 7/11/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Saturday 11 July 2009 15:23:55 tedd wrote: > At 8:34 PM -0400 7/10/09, Daniel Brown wrote: -snip- > >$html =<< >File Name: {$filedata['name']} >File Size: {$filedata['size']} > > >\$somevar: {$somevar} > > >HTML; > >echo $html; >?

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:42, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > > The braces ensure that PHP doesn't stop parsing the variable name once it > reaches the [. By default, it will only match a variable name up to the [ > sign, so you couldn't access arrays without the braces. Couldn't have said it better

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Saturday 11 July 2009 15:23:55 tedd wrote: > At 8:34 PM -0400 7/10/09, Daniel Brown wrote: > >On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 20:25, Govinda wrote: > >> How do I get > >> basename(__FILE__) > >> or > >> htmlentities($somevar) > >> to be evaluated in a heredoc? > > > > You don't. Instead, you

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread tedd
At 8:34 PM -0400 7/10/09, Daniel Brown wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 20:25, Govinda wrote: How do I get basename(__FILE__) or htmlentities($somevar) to be evaluated in a heredoc? You don't. Instead, you have to store the output from those in a variable (or array), then place it in

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Zareef Ahmed
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Govinda wrote: > On Jul 10, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Zareef Ahmed wrote: > > heredoc was there to work with the strings... why you want to use >> functions into that? >> > > I'm lazy. Like to type less. ;-) It is well known fact that normally only lazy people end up

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-10 Thread Govinda
On Jul 10, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Zareef Ahmed wrote: heredoc was there to work with the strings... why you want to use functions into that? I'm lazy. Like to type less. ;-) But now I know. Thanks guys. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-10 Thread Zareef Ahmed
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Govinda wrote: > How do I get > basename(__FILE__) > or > htmlentities($somevar) > to be evaluated in a heredoc? > heredoc was there to work with the strings... why you want to use functions into that? > > > Govinda > govinda.webdnat...@gmail.com

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-10 Thread Daniel Brown
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 20:25, Govinda wrote: > How do I  get > basename(__FILE__) > or > htmlentities($somevar) > to be evaluated  in a heredoc? You don't. Instead, you have to store the output from those in a variable (or array), then place it into the HEREDOC it. basename(__FILE__), 'siz

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-10 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Govinda wrote: > How do I  get > basename(__FILE__) > or > htmlentities($somevar) > to be evaluated  in a heredoc? > > > Govinda > govinda.webdnat...@gmail.com > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www

[PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-10 Thread Govinda
How do I get basename(__FILE__) or htmlentities($somevar) to be evaluated in a heredoc? Govinda govinda.webdnat...@gmail.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php