Re: [PHP] Re: Object methods - memory usage?

2002-10-10 Thread Chris Hewitt

Bogdan Stancescu wrote:

> Anyway, I don't expect this message to gain me a reply to my original 
> question - just wanted to explain myself for whoever has the curiosity 
> to find out why I reacted like that. There.

There are many reasons why people do not reply. In my case it is sheer 
ignorance, I don't know the answer or anything that can help.

You are asking questions about how the internals of php work, I imagine 
most on this list are users rather than php developers. Unless I had 
examined extensively the source code, I would not know the answers to 
what you ask.

The php-dev list sounds the sort of place where most will have examined 
the source code, though whether it is a good idea to ask there I do not 
know. At least, being open source, it is possible to look at it yourself 
if you do not find anyone who does know.

Regards

Chris


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Re: [PHP] Re: Object methods - memory usage?

2002-10-10 Thread Bogdan Stancescu


Heh, I should probably be mad at your reply - but I'm not, I'm objective 
enough to realize I could've replied the same way to a whining message 
like mine below. What I AM mad about is the reply of rest of the people 
on this list. And that's not because nobody replied to this question 
alone, but because this is the third (or so) question I ask on this 
list, and it's the third time I get no reply.

And yes, I know I'm not paying for support so there's no guarantee for 
any, but c'mon, we're humans, you'd be annoyed as well if this happened 
to you, especially since there are few unanswered questions here.

Anyway, I don't expect this message to gain me a reply to my original 
question - just wanted to explain myself for whoever has the curiosity 
to find out why I reacted like that. There.

Bogdan

John W. Holmes wrote:
> OK.
> 
> 
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Bogdan Stancescu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:30 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: [PHP] Re: Object methods - memory usage?
>>
>>Well, I guess my questions are just too stupid to deserve an answer
>>anyway. Sorry for spamming you guys with my retarded questions! I'll
>>refrain from asking any more questions on this list in the future,
> 
> since
> 
>>I always seem to ask the wrong ones.
>>
>>Humbly yours,
>>Bogdan
>>
>>Bogdan Stancescu wrote:
>>
>>>Hello!
>>>
>>>Ok, this is probably a very stupid question for someone who knows
> 
> how
> 
>>>these things work internally - but I don't, therefore I ask. :)
>>>
>>>When I instantiate an object, do the methods get instantiated as
> 
> well?
> 
>>>The question is asked memory-wise, not functionality-wise. More to
> 
> the
> 
>>>point, if I instantiate many identical objects with no class
> 
> variables
> 
>>>of their own but with many methods, will I get memory used up for
> 
> the
> 
>>>methods?
>>>
>>>If I were to guess, I'd say no extra memory is used for the methods
>>>since I don't think you can dynamically redefine class methods, so
> 
> there
> 
>>>would be no reason for duplicating them instead of simply
> 
> referencing
> 
>>>the class definition - but then again, I don't know how PHP works
>>>internally...
>>>
>>>Thank you!
>>>
>>>Bogdan
>>>
>>
>>
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RE: [PHP] Re: Object methods - memory usage?

2002-10-09 Thread John W. Holmes

OK.

> -Original Message-
> From: Bogdan Stancescu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:30 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [PHP] Re: Object methods - memory usage?
> 
> Well, I guess my questions are just too stupid to deserve an answer
> anyway. Sorry for spamming you guys with my retarded questions! I'll
> refrain from asking any more questions on this list in the future,
since
> I always seem to ask the wrong ones.
> 
> Humbly yours,
> Bogdan
> 
> Bogdan Stancescu wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > Ok, this is probably a very stupid question for someone who knows
how
> > these things work internally - but I don't, therefore I ask. :)
> >
> > When I instantiate an object, do the methods get instantiated as
well?
> > The question is asked memory-wise, not functionality-wise. More to
the
> > point, if I instantiate many identical objects with no class
variables
> > of their own but with many methods, will I get memory used up for
the
> > methods?
> >
> > If I were to guess, I'd say no extra memory is used for the methods
> > since I don't think you can dynamically redefine class methods, so
there
> > would be no reason for duplicating them instead of simply
referencing
> > the class definition - but then again, I don't know how PHP works
> > internally...
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Bogdan
> >
> 
> 
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[PHP] Re: Object methods - memory usage?

2002-10-09 Thread Bogdan Stancescu

Well, I guess my questions are just too stupid to deserve an answer 
anyway. Sorry for spamming you guys with my retarded questions! I'll 
refrain from asking any more questions on this list in the future, since 
I always seem to ask the wrong ones.

Humbly yours,
Bogdan

Bogdan Stancescu wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Ok, this is probably a very stupid question for someone who knows how 
> these things work internally - but I don't, therefore I ask. :)
> 
> When I instantiate an object, do the methods get instantiated as well? 
> The question is asked memory-wise, not functionality-wise. More to the 
> point, if I instantiate many identical objects with no class variables 
> of their own but with many methods, will I get memory used up for the 
> methods?
> 
> If I were to guess, I'd say no extra memory is used for the methods 
> since I don't think you can dynamically redefine class methods, so there 
> would be no reason for duplicating them instead of simply referencing 
> the class definition - but then again, I don't know how PHP works 
> internally...
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Bogdan
> 


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