[PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX
Julian, could you please show us an example of this problem? -- João Cândido de Souza Neto SIENS SOLUÇÕES EM GESTÃO DE NEGÓCIOS Fone: (0XX41) 3033-3636 - JS www.siens.com.br Julian Muscat Doublesin opensourc...@gmail.com escreveu na mensagem news:5e0039ed0905280431o2e9d8036u217b0449eccd...@mail.gmail.com... Hi Everyone, This is the first time that I am posting in the PHP forum, so hope that I am osting in the right place. I would like to say that before submitting to this forum I have done some research looking for a solution without success. I had been programming in ASP.NET for years using Object Oriented Princeliness but decided to walk away from that. I am now researching and specialising in the open source world. I have started to develop a project using MySQL, PHP and OOP. So far I have succeed. However I got stuck once I started implement AJAX using the AJAX tutorial from w3schools.com. What I have discovered is: for some reason when you call a file that requires other fies using the REQUIRE or INCLUDE it just does not work. I can conform this as I have tested with out the the functions. Has anyone ever meet such a situation can you give me some feedback please. Thank you very much in advance for your support. Regards Julian -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX
i never faced such a problem and i can assure you that it will never
happen. try...
main.php
?php
require('second.php');
?
second.php
test
call main.php via AJAX and see the responseText.
many things can go wrong in your coding. dont come to the conclusion
that this particular thing is not working.
i recommend you firebug firefox adddon (just go to the net tab and you
can see all the details of the communication between client and
server)
and i find it helpful to use a standard javascript(jQuery in my case)
library instead of highly limited plain javascript language
and for you case its difficult to comment without seeing your actual code.
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Re: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX
Two things:
1. Try using the fully qualified path (ie /var/www/foo/bar.php instead of
foo/bar.php)
2. Look at setting up autoloading so you don't need to manually include
anyway. If you're going OOP, autoloading is a must!
On May 28, 2009 8:49am, kranthi kranthi...@gmail.com wrote:
i never faced such a problem and i can assure you that it will never
happen. try...
main.php
require('second.php');
?
second.php
test
call main.php via AJAX and see the responseText.
many things can go wrong in your coding. dont come to the conclusion
that this particular thing is not working.
i recommend you firebug firefox adddon (just go to the net tab and you
can see all the details of the communication between client and
server)
and i find it helpful to use a standard javascript(jQuery in my case)
library instead of highly limited plain javascript language
and for you case its difficult to comment without seeing your actual code.
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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX
2009/5/28 kranthi kranthi...@gmail.com i recommend you firebug firefox adddon (just go to the net tab and you can see all the details of the communication between client and server) and i find it helpful to use a standard javascript(jQuery in my case) library instead of highly limited plain javascript language I also recommend using FirePHP with FireBug here's a nicely written tutorial on how to use them both together for Ajax'ed pages. http://tr.im/iyvl Thanks Lenin www.twitter.com/nine_L
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX
Hi! Do not use low-level AJAX. There are many frameworks for ajax (JQUERY). Try to use PHP frameworks like symfony, zend framework. They simplify your work. 2009/5/28 Lenin le...@phpxperts.net 2009/5/28 kranthi kranthi...@gmail.com i recommend you firebug firefox adddon (just go to the net tab and you can see all the details of the communication between client and server) and i find it helpful to use a standard javascript(jQuery in my case) library instead of highly limited plain javascript language I also recommend using FirePHP with FireBug here's a nicely written tutorial on how to use them both together for Ajax'ed pages. http://tr.im/iyvl Thanks Lenin www.twitter.com/nine_L
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX
2009/5/28 Olexandr Heneralov ohenera...@gmail.com Hi! Do not use low-level AJAX. There are many frameworks for ajax (JQUERY). Try to use PHP frameworks like symfony, zend framework. They simplify your work. 2009/5/28 Lenin le...@phpxperts.net 2009/5/28 kranthi kranthi...@gmail.com i recommend you firebug firefox adddon (just go to the net tab and you can see all the details of the communication between client and server) and i find it helpful to use a standard javascript(jQuery in my case) library instead of highly limited plain javascript language I also recommend using FirePHP with FireBug here's a nicely written tutorial on how to use them both together for Ajax'ed pages. http://tr.im/iyvl Thanks Lenin www.twitter.com/nine_L Moo, I would say learn to do PHP by itself before you go using frameworks. AJAX is a bit different though because there will be few reasons that you will ever need to write low level code when you're using a library like Prototype =) -- Luke Slater :O)
Re: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX
oorza...@gmail.com wrote in message news:000e0cd6ad1a9f7d3d046af89...@google.com... Two things: 1. Try using the fully qualified path (ie /var/www/foo/bar.php instead of foo/bar.php) 2. Look at setting up autoloading so you don't need to manually include anyway. If you're going OOP, autoloading is a must! I totally disagree. I have been doing OOP with PHP for years, and I have never used autoloading. It is just a feature that can be used, misused or abused just like any other. I choose not to use it, and my code does not suffer in the least! -- Tony Marston http://www.tonymarston.net http://www.radicore.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX
Eddie Drapkin oorza...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:68de37340905280737t3e1ad844y188ab8fa08f17...@mail.gmail.com...
Your code might not, but you sure do! Spending all that time writing
require statements = :(
If you are too lazy to write require statements then you are probably too
lazy to write readable, well structured and efficient code. Besides, I don't
use require statements, I use
$dbobject = singleton::getInstance('classname');
I don't use autoload because *I* want to be in control. I prefer not to rely
on automatuic features which may not work as expected.
--
Tony Marston
http://www.tonymarston.net
http://www.radicore.org
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Tony Marston
t...@marston-home.demon.co.uk
wrote:
oorza...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:000e0cd6ad1a9f7d3d046af89...@google.com...
Two things:
1. Try using the fully qualified path (ie /var/www/foo/bar.php instead
of
foo/bar.php)
2. Look at setting up autoloading so you don't need to manually include
anyway. If you're going OOP, autoloading is a must!
I totally disagree. I have been doing OOP with PHP for years, and I have
never used autoloading. It is just a feature that can be used, misused or
abused just like any other. I choose not to use it, and my code does not
suffer in the least!
--
Tony Marston
http://www.tonymarston.net
http://www.radicore.org
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Re: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX
There's a huge difference between laziness and opting in to use an
incredibly useful (and easy to properly deploy) feature to save myself time
so that I can spend more time writing that structured and efficient code of
which you speak. And the problem with what you're saying is that you still
have to include 'singleton.php' somewhere in order to call its static
methods, and I'd rather just spend 30 minutes writing an autoloader object
and letting it deal with finding any of the classes I use then trying to
keep track of legacy code I didn't write and require'ing them all over the
place.
The way I look at it, if you spend all your time handling things that you
could automate - and if written properly, will always work as expected (it's
called unit testing and debugging) - then you have no time to write that
structured and efficient code in order to meet your deadlines! :)
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Tony Marston
t...@marston-home.demon.co.uk wrote:
Eddie Drapkin oorza...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:68de37340905280737t3e1ad844y188ab8fa08f17...@mail.gmail.com...
Your code might not, but you sure do! Spending all that time writing
require statements = :(
If you are too lazy to write require statements then you are probably too
lazy to write readable, well structured and efficient code. Besides, I
don't
use require statements, I use
$dbobject = singleton::getInstance('classname');
I don't use autoload because *I* want to be in control. I prefer not to
rely
on automatuic features which may not work as expected.
--
Tony Marston
http://www.tonymarston.net
http://www.radicore.org
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Tony Marston
t...@marston-home.demon.co.uk
wrote:
oorza...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:000e0cd6ad1a9f7d3d046af89...@google.com...
Two things:
1. Try using the fully qualified path (ie /var/www/foo/bar.php instead
of
foo/bar.php)
2. Look at setting up autoloading so you don't need to manually
include
anyway. If you're going OOP, autoloading is a must!
I totally disagree. I have been doing OOP with PHP for years, and I have
never used autoloading. It is just a feature that can be used, misused
or
abused just like any other. I choose not to use it, and my code does not
suffer in the least!
--
Tony Marston
http://www.tonymarston.net
http://www.radicore.org
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Re: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX
Eddie Drapkin oorza...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:68de37340905280801m6964d355l2d6d8ef773f3b...@mail.gmail.com...
There's a huge difference between laziness and opting in to use an
incredibly useful (and easy to properly deploy) feature to save myself
time
so that I can spend more time writing that structured and efficient code
of
which you speak. And the problem with what you're saying is that you
still
have to include 'singleton.php' somewhere in order to call its static
methods,
I have a single general purpose include file which autmatically includes all
other standard files, so I never have to explicity load my singleton class.
and I'd rather just spend 30 minutes writing an autoloader object
and letting it deal with finding any of the classes I use then trying to
keep track of legacy code I didn't write and require'ing them all over the
place.
I'd rather not waste 30 minutes of my time writing a feature that I don't
need.
The difference between using and not using the autoload feature does not
have any measurable impact on either my development times, nor the execution
of my code, so I choose to not use it. That's my choice, and I'm sticking to
it.
The way I look at it, if you spend all your time handling things that you
could automate - and if written properly, will always work as expected
(it's
called unit testing and debugging) - then you have no time to write that
structured and efficient code in order to meet your deadlines! :)
Not using autoload does not have any noticeable effect on my deadlines, so I
have no incentive to use it. Just because you say that I *should* use it
carries no weight at all.
--
Tony Marston
http://www.tonymarston.net
http://www.radicore.org
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Tony Marston
t...@marston-home.demon.co.uk wrote:
Eddie Drapkin oorza...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:68de37340905280737t3e1ad844y188ab8fa08f17...@mail.gmail.com...
Your code might not, but you sure do! Spending all that time writing
require statements = :(
If you are too lazy to write require statements then you are probably
too
lazy to write readable, well structured and efficient code. Besides, I
don't
use require statements, I use
$dbobject = singleton::getInstance('classname');
I don't use autoload because *I* want to be in control. I prefer not to
rely
on automatuic features which may not work as expected.
--
Tony Marston
http://www.tonymarston.net
http://www.radicore.org
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Tony Marston
t...@marston-home.demon.co.uk
wrote:
oorza...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:000e0cd6ad1a9f7d3d046af89...@google.com...
Two things:
1. Try using the fully qualified path (ie /var/www/foo/bar.php
instead
of
foo/bar.php)
2. Look at setting up autoloading so you don't need to manually
include
anyway. If you're going OOP, autoloading is a must!
I totally disagree. I have been doing OOP with PHP for years, and I
have
never used autoloading. It is just a feature that can be used, misused
or
abused just like any other. I choose not to use it, and my code does
not
suffer in the least!
--
Tony Marston
http://www.tonymarston.net
http://www.radicore.org
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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 16:17 +0300, Olexandr Heneralov wrote: Hi! Do not use low-level AJAX. There are many frameworks for ajax (JQUERY). Try to use PHP frameworks like symfony, zend framework. They simplify your work. 2009/5/28 Lenin le...@phpxperts.net 2009/5/28 kranthi kranthi...@gmail.com i recommend you firebug firefox adddon (just go to the net tab and you can see all the details of the communication between client and server) and i find it helpful to use a standard javascript(jQuery in my case) library instead of highly limited plain javascript language I also recommend using FirePHP with FireBug here's a nicely written tutorial on how to use them both together for Ajax'ed pages. http://tr.im/iyvl Thanks Lenin www.twitter.com/nine_L Real coders use low-level ajax... and code with rocks too ;) Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
