Re: [PHP] Two very useful PHP functions

2009-05-01 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Darren  wrote:
> This was discussed for PHP6, but eventually decided not to have such a
> function. Instead, we now have the following:    $var = $_GET['var'] ?: 5;
>
> Taken from http://www.corephp.co.uk/archives/19-Prepare-for-PHP-6.html
>
> 'you'd be able to do something like this: "$foo = $_GET['foo'] ?: 42;" (i.e.
> if foo is true, $foo will equal 42).'
>
>

I don't like that syntax at all. You would have to scrutinize code
even more to determine whether a statement like this was intentional
or a botched ternary operator. I'm not sure there is a need for a
function like ifset/ifsetor, but I'd MUCH rather have a clear function
name that could easily be found in the manual than mangling the
ternary operator.

Andrew

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Re: [PHP] Two very useful PHP functions

2009-05-01 Thread Darren
This was discussed for PHP6, but eventually decided not to have such a
function. Instead, we now have the following:$var = $_GET['var'] ?: 5;

Taken from http://www.corephp.co.uk/archives/19-Prepare-for-PHP-6.html

'you'd be able to do something like this: "$foo = $_GET['foo'] ?: 42;" (i.e.
if foo is true, $foo will equal 42).'


2009/5/1 Raymond Irving 

>
> Hi Colin and Daniel,
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> I know that this functionality can be added to a framework or a stand alone
> function but I'm assuming that we would not get the same performance:
>
> Case 1
> ---
> $c = isset($a) ? $a : '';
> // total time = overhead  of isset() + overhead of ?:
>
> Case 2
> ---
> $c = myWrapper($a,$b)
> // total time = overhead of myWrapper() + overhead of isset() + overhead of
> ?:
>
> Case 3
> ---
> $c = ifset($a,$b)
> // total time = overhead of ifset()
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> __
> Raymond Irving
>
> --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Daniel Brown  wrote:
>
> > From: Daniel Brown 
> > Subject: Re: [PHP] Two very useful PHP functions
> > To: "Raymond Irving" 
> > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
> > Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 11:37 AM
> > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 22:32,
> > Raymond Irving 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > What do you think? Can they make it into 5.3?
> >
> > Not when doing the ternary operator that you
> > even displayed
> > yourself takes up less code and time than a core function
> > would.  It's
> > a good idea, but better handled on the frontend of
> > things.  You may
> > want to consider contributing that to a framework, which is
> > where it
> > would be more appropriate.
> >
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Re: [PHP] Two very useful PHP functions

2009-04-30 Thread Raymond Irving

Hi Colin and Daniel,

Thanks for the feedback.

I know that this functionality can be added to a framework or a stand alone 
function but I'm assuming that we would not get the same performance:

Case 1
---
$c = isset($a) ? $a : ''; 
// total time = overhead  of isset() + overhead of ?:

Case 2
---
$c = myWrapper($a,$b)  
// total time = overhead of myWrapper() + overhead of isset() + overhead of ?:

Case 3
---
$c = ifset($a,$b)  
// total time = overhead of ifset()



Best regards

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Raymond Irving

--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Daniel Brown  wrote:

> From: Daniel Brown 
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Two very useful PHP functions
> To: "Raymond Irving" 
> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
> Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 11:37 AM
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 22:32,
> Raymond Irving 
> wrote:
> >
> > What do you think? Can they make it into 5.3?
> 
>     Not when doing the ternary operator that you
> even displayed
> yourself takes up less code and time than a core function
> would.  It's
> a good idea, but better handled on the frontend of
> things.  You may
> want to consider contributing that to a framework, which is
> where it
> would be more appropriate.
> 
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Re: [PHP] Two very useful PHP functions

2009-04-30 Thread Daniel Brown
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 22:32, Raymond Irving  wrote:
>
> What do you think? Can they make it into 5.3?

Not when doing the ternary operator that you even displayed
yourself takes up less code and time than a core function would.  It's
a good idea, but better handled on the frontend of things.  You may
want to consider contributing that to a framework, which is where it
would be more appropriate.

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[PHP] Two very useful PHP functions

2009-04-29 Thread Raymond Irving
Hello,

Every so often I have to be using the isset() function to check if a variable 
exists. It would be useful to have something like an ifset() function

Instead of doing this

$v = isset($input) ? $input : $default;

we can do this

$v = ifset($input,$default); 
// returns $input if it exists otherwise it will return $default

We could also do the same for the empty() function. So instead of doing this

$v = empty($input) ? $default : $input;

we can do this

$v = ifempty($input,$default);
// returns $input if it is not empty otherwise it will return $default

What do you think? Can they make it into 5.3?


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