Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Eric Gorr wrote: Quoting Torgny Bjers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I recommend Zend Studio if you can afford it since it has a GUI for both Windows and Linux FlameBateAnd for those interested in using a real computer/FlameBate, it's GUI also runs under MacOSX. http://zend.com/store/products/zend-studio/requirements.php Actually, it does not. I installed it on my Mac, hoping to try it out and it would not run because it did not have the move recent Java JRE which is not available for Mac OSX (or was not at the time). I still do not have it running. Although it installed without a hitch. I would be interested in what people use to program PHP on Mac. I currently use TextWrangler and I have tried TextMate, but I am not completely sold on either of them. I use vim quite a bit also. Jonathan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
Visual Slick Edit works on a Mac. As I've said before (and will undoubtedly say again), it is by far the best IDE I've used to date. Features: http://www.slickedit.com/content/view/353/217 System requirements: http://www.slickedit.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=161Itemid=57 thnx, Chris - Original Message - From: Jonathan Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Eric Gorr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP? On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Eric Gorr wrote: Quoting Torgny Bjers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I recommend Zend Studio if you can afford it since it has a GUI for both Windows and Linux FlameBateAnd for those interested in using a real computer/FlameBate, it's GUI also runs under MacOSX. http://zend.com/store/products/zend-studio/requirements.php Actually, it does not. I installed it on my Mac, hoping to try it out and it would not run because it did not have the move recent Java JRE which is not available for Mac OSX (or was not at the time). I still do not have it running. Although it installed without a hitch. I would be interested in what people use to program PHP on Mac. I currently use TextWrangler and I have tried TextMate, but I am not completely sold on either of them. I use vim quite a bit also. Jonathan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
On 15 Dec 2005, at 18:31, Jonathan Duncan wrote: FlameBateAnd for those interested in using a real computer/ FlameBate, it's GUI also runs under MacOSX. http://zend.com/store/products/zend-studio/requirements.php Actually, it does not. I installed it on my Mac, hoping to try it out and it would not run because it did not have the move recent Java JRE which is not available for Mac OSX (or was not at the time). I still do not have it running. Although it installed without a hitch. It was available at the time in a beta format from the Apple web site (a 2 second Google found it for me), and is now available in full release format. I downloaded it prior to installing Zend 5 on my Mac and it works fine. The full update came in via Apple Software Update last week, and it still works fine. There is no reason why Mac owners could not run ZS5 from the day of release. I know that I did. Cheers, Rich -- http://www.corephp.co.uk PHP Development Services -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Richard Davey wrote: On 15 Dec 2005, at 18:31, Jonathan Duncan wrote: FlameBateAnd for those interested in using a real computer/FlameBate, it's GUI also runs under MacOSX. http://zend.com/store/products/zend-studio/requirements.php Actually, it does not. I installed it on my Mac, hoping to try it out and it would not run because it did not have the move recent Java JRE which is not available for Mac OSX (or was not at the time). I still do not have it running. Although it installed without a hitch. It was available at the time in a beta format from the Apple web site (a 2 second Google found it for me), and is now available in full release format. I downloaded it prior to installing Zend 5 on my Mac and it works fine. The full update came in via Apple Software Update last week, and it still works fine. There is no reason why Mac owners could not run ZS5 from the day of release. I know that I did. Cheers, Rich One more reason to upgrade to Tiger. I am still on MacOSX 10.3.9 =( Jonathan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
On 15 Dec 2005, at 20:09, Jonathan Duncan wrote: One more reason to upgrade to Tiger. I am still on MacOSX 10.3.9 =( Bummer :-\ Tiger was a nice upgrade imho, but a quite costly one too. Cheers, Rich -- http://www.corephp.co.uk PHP Development Services -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
John Nichel wrote: Miles Thompson wrote: At 11:45 AM 12/7/2005, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Two words punch cards. 'Nuff said. Come on now Jay, we know you're old and all, but everyone knows that you cannot edit php with punch cards. Hanging chads will cause too many fatal errors. ;) [/snip] ROFLMMFAO Why these clumsy interfaces? Just plug the Firewire in your ear! n00b ;) Punch cards? Looxury. Toggle switches on the front of the computer Cheers -- David Robley Circular Definition: see Definition, Circular. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
Jim Moseby wrote: Curt Zirzow wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 06:36:33PM +0100, M. Sokolewicz wrote: Jason Petersen wrote: On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Vim is my editor of preference. If I have to use Windows, I usually go with Homesite (because I already have a licensed copy) or Textpad (because it's better than Notepad). IDEs? Who needs 'em ;) Best, Jason same here :) Vim on UNIX machines, and Textpad on Windows man you guys are wimps.. gvim on windows... :) Pt'Edit' in DOS. ;) (Pt * 2) 'edlin' in DOS. :P (Pt * 3) SPF on IBM mainframe Cheers -- David Robley You have two choices for dinner: Take it or Leave it. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
John Nichel wrote: Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] man you guys are wimps.. gvim on windows... :) Pt'Edit' in DOS. ;) (Pt * 2) 'edlin' in DOS. :) Infinitely recursive pfft A pencil and a piece of paper and ringing people to describe the cool web site you've just drawn, [/snip] Two words punch cards. 'Nuff said. Come on now Jay, we know you're old and all, but everyone knows that you cannot edit php with punch cards. Hanging chads will cause too many fatal errors. ;) Suitable underware will prevent hanging... oh wait, he said _chads_ Cheers -- David Robley If little else, the brain is an educational toy. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I wish I had the punch card version. I have to rewire my php box everytime I want to change something. On 12/8/05, David Robley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Nichel wrote: Miles Thompson wrote: At 11:45 AM 12/7/2005, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Two words punch cards. 'Nuff said. Come on now Jay, we know you're old and all, but everyone knows that you cannot edit php with punch cards. Hanging chads will cause too many fatal errors. ;) [/snip] ROFLMMFAO Why these clumsy interfaces? Just plug the Firewire in your ear! n00b ;) Punch cards? Looxury. Toggle switches on the front of the computer Cheers -- David Robley Circular Definition: see Definition, Circular. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Jim Moseby wrote: Curt Zirzow wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 06:36:33PM +0100, M. Sokolewicz wrote: Jason Petersen wrote: On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Vim is my editor of preference. If I have to use Windows, I usually go with Homesite (because I already have a licensed copy) or Textpad (because it's better than Notepad). IDEs? Who needs 'em ;) Best, Jason same here :) Vim on UNIX machines, and Textpad on Windows man you guys are wimps.. gvim on windows... :) Pt'Edit' in DOS. ;) (Pt * 2) 'edlin' in DOS. :P (Pt * 3) SPF on IBM mainframe Cheers -- David Robley You have two choices for dinner: Take it or Leave it. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
Notepad++ is inherently better then notepad (and textpad) and free. I wish I had the punch card version. I have to rewire my php box everytime I want to change something. On 12/8/05, David Robley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Nichel wrote: Miles Thompson wrote: At 11:45 AM 12/7/2005, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Two words punch cards. 'Nuff said. Come on now Jay, we know you're old and all, but everyone knows that you cannot edit php with punch cards. Hanging chads will cause too many fatal errors. ;) [/snip] ROFLMMFAO Why these clumsy interfaces? Just plug the Firewire in your ear! n00b ;) Punch cards? Looxury. Toggle switches on the front of the computer Cheers -- David Robley Circular Definition: see Definition, Circular. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Jim Moseby wrote: Curt Zirzow wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 06:36:33PM +0100, M. Sokolewicz wrote: Jason Petersen wrote: On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Vim is my editor of preference. If I have to use Windows, I usually go with Homesite (because I already have a licensed copy) or Textpad (because it's better than Notepad). IDEs? Who needs 'em ;) Best, Jason same here :) Vim on UNIX machines, and Textpad on Windows man you guys are wimps.. gvim on windows... :) Pt'Edit' in DOS. ;) (Pt * 2) 'edlin' in DOS. :P (Pt * 3) SPF on IBM mainframe Cheers -- David Robley You have two choices for dinner: Take it or Leave it. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/ ) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Eclipse+PHPEclipse 2005/12/9, Zack Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Notepad++ is inherently better then notepad (and textpad) and free. I wish I had the punch card version. I have to rewire my php box everytime I want to change something. On 12/8/05, David Robley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Nichel wrote: Miles Thompson wrote: At 11:45 AM 12/7/2005, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Two words punch cards. 'Nuff said. Come on now Jay, we know you're old and all, but everyone knows that you cannot edit php with punch cards. Hanging chads will cause too many fatal errors. ;) [/snip] ROFLMMFAO Why these clumsy interfaces? Just plug the Firewire in your ear! n00b ;) Punch cards? Looxury. Toggle switches on the front of the computer Cheers -- David Robley Circular Definition: see Definition, Circular. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Jim Moseby wrote: Curt Zirzow wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 06:36:33PM +0100, M. Sokolewicz wrote: Jason Petersen wrote: On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Vim is my editor of preference. If I have to use Windows, I usually go with Homesite (because I already have a licensed copy) or Textpad (because it's better than Notepad). IDEs? Who needs 'em ;) Best, Jason same here :) Vim on UNIX machines, and Textpad on Windows man you guys are wimps.. gvim on windows... :) Pt'Edit' in DOS. ;) (Pt * 2) 'edlin' in DOS. :P (Pt * 3) SPF on IBM mainframe Cheers -- David Robley You have two choices for dinner: Take it or Leave it. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/ ) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
Nusphere PhpED and love it. Tried a few other editors but stayed with PhpED now for the last year and about to renew my subscription. Excellent project management, brilliant debugger (local and remote), code error detection and highlighting, fast (much faster than the java editors), able to handle huge projects, and very stable. Not as expensive as the Zend equivalent (last time I checked) and in my opinion it's better. Good support from the forum and quick responses from the support desk. I keep checking out the new editors and new versions of old editors as they come out but nothing yet to match PhpED. I develop on Windows but there's a Linux version too (which I haven't tried). If you're looking for a professional PHP IDE you won't find better. And BTW I don't work for Nusphere, I just really like their product. Arno DotContent Professional Content Management Solutions www.dotcontent.net -Original Message- [snip] Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? [/snip] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 2005/12/06 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
Hi Jeff, On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Eclipse + TruFoundation (PHP/Python) + JSEclipse + CSSEditor + Web Standard Tools (HTML/XML/...) Well, first of all, these are open source and/or free (for commercial use, so no Zend or NuSphere price tags)... TruPHP has auto-completion (both user defined and builtin functions/classes); class insight; debugging; instant syntax checking and error highlighting; code folding among other features... In Eclipse, you can manage your code through CVS, Subversion (using Subclipse), FTP, WebDav, ... or just the little built-in History feature... I use Eclipse also for Java (JDT) and C/C++ (CDT) development... Eclipse has plugins for nearly anything you want... As for editors, i use Kate, and VIM when i'm not running X... Eclipse and Web Standard Tools: http://www.eclipse.org TruFoundation: http://www.xored.com/trustudio JSEclipse: http://www.interaktonline.com/Products/Eclipse/JSEclipse/Overview/ CSSEditor: http://csseditor.sourceforge.net/ Subclipse (SVN support): http://subclipse.tigris.org/ Clay (database modeling): http://www.azzurri.jp/en/software/clay/index.jsp -ahmed
Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
Curt Zirzow wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 06:36:33PM +0100, M. Sokolewicz wrote: Jason Petersen wrote: On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Vim is my editor of preference. If I have to use Windows, I usually go with Homesite (because I already have a licensed copy) or Textpad (because it's better than Notepad). IDEs? Who needs 'em ;) Best, Jason same here :) Vim on UNIX machines, and Textpad on Windows man you guys are wimps.. gvim on windows... :) Pt'Edit' in DOS. ;) -- John C. Nichel IV Programmer/System Admin (ÜberGeek) Dot Com Holdings of Buffalo 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Pt'Edit' in DOS. ;) Absolutely!! It can't be beaten for undocumented features. :p thnx, Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
Curt Zirzow wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 06:36:33PM +0100, M. Sokolewicz wrote: Jason Petersen wrote: On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Vim is my editor of preference. If I have to use Windows, I usually go with Homesite (because I already have a licensed copy) or Textpad (because it's better than Notepad). IDEs? Who needs 'em ;) Best, Jason same here :) Vim on UNIX machines, and Textpad on Windows man you guys are wimps.. gvim on windows... :) Pt'Edit' in DOS. ;) (Pt * 2) 'edlin' in DOS. :P -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Jim Moseby wrote: man you guys are wimps.. gvim on windows... :) Pt'Edit' in DOS. ;) (Pt * 2) 'edlin' in DOS. :) Infinitely recursive pfft A pencil and a piece of paper and ringing people to describe the cool web site you've just drawn, -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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[snip] man you guys are wimps.. gvim on windows... :) Pt'Edit' in DOS. ;) (Pt * 2) 'edlin' in DOS. :) Infinitely recursive pfft A pencil and a piece of paper and ringing people to describe the cool web site you've just drawn, [/snip] Two words punch cards. 'Nuff said. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] man you guys are wimps.. gvim on windows... :) Pt'Edit' in DOS. ;) (Pt * 2) 'edlin' in DOS. :) Infinitely recursive pfft A pencil and a piece of paper and ringing people to describe the cool web site you've just drawn, [/snip] Two words punch cards. 'Nuff said. Come on now Jay, we know you're old and all, but everyone knows that you cannot edit php with punch cards. Hanging chads will cause too many fatal errors. ;) -- John C. Nichel IV Programmer/System Admin (ÜberGeek) Dot Com Holdings of Buffalo 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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[snip] Two words punch cards. 'Nuff said. Come on now Jay, we know you're old and all, but everyone knows that you cannot edit php with punch cards. Hanging chads will cause too many fatal errors. ;) [/snip] ROFLMMFAO -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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At 11:45 AM 12/7/2005, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Two words punch cards. 'Nuff said. Come on now Jay, we know you're old and all, but everyone knows that you cannot edit php with punch cards. Hanging chads will cause too many fatal errors. ;) [/snip] ROFLMMFAO Why these clumsy interfaces? Just plug the Firewire in your ear! Miles -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Miles Thompson wrote: At 11:45 AM 12/7/2005, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Two words punch cards. 'Nuff said. Come on now Jay, we know you're old and all, but everyone knows that you cannot edit php with punch cards. Hanging chads will cause too many fatal errors. ;) [/snip] ROFLMMFAO Why these clumsy interfaces? Just plug the Firewire in your ear! n00b ;) -- John C. Nichel IV Programmer/System Admin (ÜberGeek) Dot Com Holdings of Buffalo 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I'm using quanta on linux, it those nice things like code completion, syntax highlighting, upload the pages, etc... -- http://esu.proyectoanonimo.com http://www.proyectoanonimo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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John Nichel wrote: Miles Thompson wrote: At 11:45 AM 12/7/2005, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Two words punch cards. 'Nuff said. Come on now Jay, we know you're old and all, but everyone knows that you cannot edit php with punch cards. Hanging chads will cause too many fatal errors. ;) [/snip] ROFLMMFAO Why these clumsy interfaces? Just plug the Firewire in your ear! n00b at least he is past the oral-phase :-) ;) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
It's not a full FTP client, you can't set permissions in it. I think that's a major minus in DW's favor. Especially if you don't have access to ssh into your machine ... -Original Message- From: Michael Hulse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:09 PM To: 'php' Subject: Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP? On Dec 6, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Mark Steudel wrote: I primarily code in Dreamweaver 8. Two of my favorite features that were added from MX are as follows: 1. Code folding, basically you can collapse blocks of code. If you have to work with other peoples code, matching braces and code folding is an awesome way of just seeing the logical flow of the code, and hide all the details. DW 8 code folding is great because you can select any amount of code and collapse it. The bummer about dreamweaver is that it doesn't detect functions and add a collapse handle to it like Zend Studio, or have the default to automatically collapse functions when you open a page like Zend Studio. Sah-wt! I have yet to upgrade. Waiting to get a new puter. :) Code-folding sound fricken cool! I am pretty stoked that they finally fixed the crappy built-in ftp. But, can you set permissions? I wonder if there is a plugin for DW8 that will detect functions? Me = googling. M -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hello Miles, Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 8:56:23 AM, you wrote: Why these clumsy interfaces? Just plug the Firewire in your ear! So that's where it's supposed to go!?!?!? I've been doing it wrong all this time, not to mention it made sitting so very uncomfortable. grin -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Sometimes the majority just means all the fools are on the same side. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Murray @ PlanetThoughtful said the following on 12/07/2005 07:31 AM: Jim Moseby wrote: Pt'Edit' in DOS. ;) (Pt * 2) 'edlin' in DOS. :) Infinitely recursive pfft A pencil and a piece of paper and ringing people to describe the cool web site you've just drawn, What, can't you use punch cards? - Ben -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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[PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Thanks, Jeff -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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[snip] Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? [/snip] I use Eclipse and HTML-Kit -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Jeff, Jeff McKeon wrote: Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? I use Zend Studio 5, but there are plenty of other (cheaper) options. Take a look at the following link for a list of editors with reviews. http://www.php-editors.com/review/ Cheers, David Grant -- David Grant http://www.grant.org.uk/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Thanks, Jeff Actually, there isn't much WORSE than FrontPage for any kind of coding. My personal favorite for projects at work is Eclipse with phpEclipse plugin and at home I use vim almost exclusively. -Mike -- Michael E. Crute Software Developer SoftGroup Development Corporation Linux takes junk and turns it into something useful. Windows takes something useful and turns it into junk. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hi Jeff, Jeff McKeon wrote: What is it you like about Zend Studio? * Code completion * Syntax highlighting for PHP, HTML and CSS * Manual pages * Debugging * Code examination * PHPDoc * CVS SVN support Cheers, David -- David Grant http://www.grant.org.uk/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Quoting Michael Crute [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Thanks, Jeff Actually, there isn't much WORSE than FrontPage for any kind of coding. My personal favorite for projects at work is Eclipse with phpEclipse plugin and at home I use vim almost exclusively. I recommend Zend Studio if you can afford it since it has a GUI for both Windows and Linux, and it runs fairly fast for being a Java application. ;) I agree with Mike, pretty much anything is better than FrontPage for editing web pages. If you're going to be changing both HTML and PHP, Zend works fine, but if you want something with less features but with all the important stuff such as syntax highlighting, multiple window buffers, and all that shebang, go for EditPlus www.editplus.com or UltraEdit www.ultraedit.com, I prefer EditPlus over most such simpler editors on Windows, and on Linux I use Jed, which has good menu handling and Windows-like shortcuts that speed up the work. I tend to get slightly confused when working 95% in Windows and then having to edit something in vim or emacs. Just my two cents... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Jeff McKeon napisał(a): Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? I use Bluefish, it's a very nice GTK+ based editor, with all types of code highlightning (html, php, c/c++, pascal, java, python are just a part of it). And that's pretty much all the features of it I use, maybe also the well written replace method. Besides that I use it as a typical text editor, I'm not too keen on template's. -- Best wishes Łukasz Hejnak -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? I use Visual SlickEdit. You should check it out; it's a very powerful IDE. http://www.slickedit.com thnx, Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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What is it you like about Zend Studio? Jeff -Original Message- From: David Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 09:19 To: Jeff McKeon Cc: php Subject: Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP? Jeff, Jeff McKeon wrote: Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? I use Zend Studio 5, but there are plenty of other (cheaper) options. Take a look at the following link for a list of editors with reviews. http://www.php-editors.com/review/ Cheers, David Grant -- David Grant http://www.grant.org.uk/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I've used Dreamweaver MX, working with 9 remote sites, shared between IIS and Apache. George -Original Message- From: Jeff McKeon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6 December 2005 2:15 pm To: php Subject: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP? Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Thanks, Jeff -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I have to say Dreamweaver MX also it's a great all around tool for developing sites... while it may not have all the features and be as PHP specific as Zend it gets the job done. I've learned that it's just a personal preference the best coder i've ever met used note pad LOL Joe On 12/6/05, George Pitcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used Dreamweaver MX, working with 9 remote sites, shared between IIS and Apache. George -Original Message- From: Jeff McKeon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6 December 2005 2:15 pm To: php Subject: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP? Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Thanks, Jeff -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Joe Harman - * My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hi. £ukasz Hejnak wrote: I use Bluefish, it's a very nice GTK+ based editor, with all types of code highlightning (html, php, c/c++, pascal, java, python are just a part of it). And that's pretty much all the features of it I use, maybe also the well written replace method. Besides that I use it as a typical text editor, I'm not too keen on template's. I use Bluefish too and I like it, but I admit that the syntax highlighting cannot be worst: I have to press F5 when I type quotation marks in PHP. I think I'll switch to eclipse. If you're using Windows, I suggest you to use Macromedia Dreamweaver. Cheers. -- Gustavo Narea. PHP Documentation - Spanish Translation Team. Valencia, Venezuela. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Jeff McKeon wrote: Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Now: Zend Studio In The Past : Quanta, Komodo When I Still In Hell (Like Jay is now) : UltraEdit32 -- John C. Nichel IV Programmer/System Admin (ÜberGeek) Dot Com Holdings of Buffalo 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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David Grant wrote: Hi Jeff, Jeff McKeon wrote: What is it you like about Zend Studio? * Code completion * Syntax highlighting for PHP, HTML and CSS * Manual pages * Debugging * Code examination * PHPDoc * CVS SVN support Also: MySQL Tools SFTP FTP Projects PHPDocumentor -- John C. Nichel IV Programmer/System Admin (ÜberGeek) Dot Com Holdings of Buffalo 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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HomeSite. I tried several others but always came back to HomeSite. :) -afan Jeff McKeon wrote: Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Now: Zend Studio -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Vim is my editor of preference. If I have to use Windows, I usually go with Homesite (because I already have a licensed copy) or Textpad (because it's better than Notepad). IDEs? Who needs 'em ;) Best, Jason
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HomeSite. I tried several others but always came back to HomeSite. :) I was a massive HomeSite proponent until I started using SlickEdit. Once I did, I never looked back. thnx, Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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KWrite part of KDE. Notepad with Syntax Highlighting and AutoIndention. And because it's part of KDE all the kioslaves come with. Which means editing sites over ftp, ftps, ssh and many others is possible. Like the Vim guy said. DEs? who needs them :) On Tuesday 06 December 2005 08:15, Jeff McKeon wrote: Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Thanks, Jeff -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Stephen Leaf wrote: KWrite part of KDE. Notepad with Syntax Highlighting and AutoIndention. And because it's part of KDE all the kioslaves come with. Which means editing sites over ftp, ftps, ssh and many others is possible. Like the Vim guy said. DEs? who needs them :) Mmmm, reminds me of Kate! When I use KDE, I used Kate for all non-PHP coding tasks, because it has great highlighting, and code folding too. :) Cheers, David Grant -- David Grant http://www.grant.org.uk/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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As far as I can tell kate has a kwrite embedded :) I'm sure that's not the case but it seems like it. everything kwrite can do so can kate. only it has more options that I'd never used. And yes Code folding is nice don't use it much tho. On Tuesday 06 December 2005 09:48, David Grant wrote: Stephen Leaf wrote: KWrite part of KDE. Notepad with Syntax Highlighting and AutoIndention. And because it's part of KDE all the kioslaves come with. Which means editing sites over ftp, ftps, ssh and many others is possible. Like the Vim guy said. DEs? who needs them :) Mmmm, reminds me of Kate! When I use KDE, I used Kate for all non-PHP coding tasks, because it has great highlighting, and code folding too. :) Cheers, David Grant -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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According to http://kate.kde.org/info.php, kate and kwrite (and Quanta) all use katepart (a rewrite of kwrite). Stephen Leaf wrote: As far as I can tell kate has a kwrite embedded :) I'm sure that's not the case but it seems like it. everything kwrite can do so can kate. only it has more options that I'd never used. And yes Code folding is nice don't use it much tho. On Tuesday 06 December 2005 09:48, David Grant wrote: Stephen Leaf wrote: KWrite part of KDE. Notepad with Syntax Highlighting and AutoIndention. And because it's part of KDE all the kioslaves come with. Which means editing sites over ftp, ftps, ssh and many others is possible. Like the Vim guy said. DEs? who needs them :) Mmmm, reminds me of Kate! When I use KDE, I used Kate for all non-PHP coding tasks, because it has great highlighting, and code folding too. :) Cheers, David Grant -- David Grant http://www.grant.org.uk/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Nusphere PhpED and love it. Tried a few other editors but stayed with PhpED now for the last year and about to renew my subscription. Excellent project management, brilliant debugger (local and remote), code error detection and highlighting, fast (much faster than the java editors), able to handle huge projects, and very stable. Not as expensive as the Zend equivalent (last time I checked) and in my opinion it's much better. Good support from the forum and quick responses from the support desk. I keep checking out the new editors and new versions of old editors as they come out but nothing yet to match PhpED. I develop on Windows but there's a Linux version too (which I haven't tried). If you're looking for a professional PHP IDE you won't find better. And BTW I don't work for Nusphere, I just really like their product. Arno DotContent Professional Content Management Solutions www.dotcontent.net -Original Message- From: Jeff McKeon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 December 2005 04:15 To: php Subject: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP? Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Thanks, Jeff -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 2005/12/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 2005/12/05 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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If you're allready using Visul Studio for your windows applications, take a look at VS.Php from Jcx.Software. http://www.jcxsoftware.com/ Jesper -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I primarily code in Dreamweaver 8. Two of my favorite features that were added from MX are as follows: 1. Code folding, basically you can collapse blocks of code. If you have to work with other peoples code, matching braces and code folding is an awesome way of just seeing the logical flow of the code, and hide all the details. DW 8 code folding is great because you can select any amount of code and collapse it. The bummer about dreamweaver is that it doesn't detect functions and add a collapse handle to it like Zend Studio, or have the default to automatically collapse functions when you open a page like Zend Studio. 2. The built in FTP client. You can set it so that when you save it auto uploads the file to the site. They also put the upload/download process into a separate process. This means that you can download or upload a bunch of files and still continue to work on files. One thing that bugs me is that the dialogue box always comes up and you have to click around or minimize it to hide it, why isn't there an option to just keep it hidden on upload? I used Zend Studio for a month, in hopes that I would be able to figure out how to install the whole IDE with server on my machine. I wanted to use the debugging features in it, but I have never been able to get all the pieces installed correctly AND gotten a work flow down where I could use the debugger effectively. ZS has code folding too, but just for functions. Someone else mentioned support for phpDoc, this is an awesome time saver if you want to provide clear documentation in phpdoc format. One big bummer on ZS was that it didn't have a built in FTP client. A work around is to work directly off the server. I tried Magumas Workbench product for a little bit, but it seemed very mickey mouse compared to ZS and DW. But I'm sure it's really a good product and I just didn't' give it a chance. I have a soft spot for CoffeeCup editor as it was my first editor beyond notepad. I still download each update and install it, though I never use it anymore Mark -Original Message- From: Jeff McKeon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 6:15 AM To: php Subject: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP? Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Thanks, Jeff -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 6 Dec 2005, at 17:25, Mark Steudel wrote: ZS has code folding too, but just for functions. Someone else mentioned support for phpDoc, this is an awesome time saver if you want to provide clear documentation in phpdoc format. One big bummer on ZS was that it didn't have a built in FTP client. A work around is to work directly off the server. It doesn't have a fully fledged FTP client, but it can connect to, edit files on, and upload to an FTP server, so it's the same end result. What swings it most for me (I use ZS exclusively) is the function / method / class insight, which DW doesn't have. Oh and the svn integration is nice too (although very badly documented) Cheers, Rich -- http://www.corephp.co.uk PHP Development Services -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Jason Petersen wrote: On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Vim is my editor of preference. If I have to use Windows, I usually go with Homesite (because I already have a licensed copy) or Textpad (because it's better than Notepad). IDEs? Who needs 'em ;) Best, Jason same here :) Vim on UNIX machines, and Textpad on Windows both very good, simple, quick editors - tul -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 6 Dec 2005, at 17:36, M. Sokolewicz wrote: Jason Petersen wrote: On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vim is my editor of preference. If I have to use Windows, I usually go with Homesite (because I already have a licensed copy) or Textpad (because it's better than Notepad). IDEs? Who needs 'em ;) same here :) Vim on UNIX machines, and Textpad on Windows both very good, simple, quick editors I used to think like that (10 years ago maybe), but then I realised that actually, my time is quite valuable and worth a fair bit, and it's best not to waste it. Cheers, Rich -- http://www.corephp.co.uk PHP Development Services -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 12/6/05, Richard Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6 Dec 2005, at 17:36, M. Sokolewicz wrote: Jason Petersen wrote: On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vim is my editor of preference. If I have to use Windows, I usually go with Homesite (because I already have a licensed copy) or Textpad (because it's better than Notepad). IDEs? Who needs 'em ;) same here :) Vim on UNIX machines, and Textpad on Windows both very good, simple, quick editors I used to think like that (10 years ago maybe), but then I realised that actually, my time is quite valuable and worth a fair bit, and it's best not to waste it. Indeed, if you are bad at VI things go very slow but if you are good at VI (I am semi-good) you can code FAR faster than any GUI I have ever used. Plus you can use VIM on Windows too. -Mike -- Michael E. Crute Software Developer SoftGroup Development Corporation Linux takes junk and turns it into something useful. Windows takes something useful and turns it into junk. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I primarily code in Dreamweaver 8. Two of my favorite features that were added from MX are as follows: 1. Code folding, basically you can collapse blocks of code. SlickEdit has this feature. 2. The built in FTP client. This one as well. I used Dreamweaver a while back (admittedly an older version) but I couldn't stand it. But that's IMO. thnx, Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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When you say SlickEdit has a ftp client built in, is it a separate window that gets launched, or is it more integrated, like you can just right click on your list of files and say put these files up on the server. For me just being able to save and have the file get uploaded saves me a lot of extra clicks. DW's synchornization features are also handy if you are trying to get just the lastest files instead of the whole site. -Original Message- From: Chris Boget [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:11 AM To: Mark Steudel; 'Jeff McKeon'; 'php' Subject: Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP? I primarily code in Dreamweaver 8. Two of my favorite features that were added from MX are as follows: 1. Code folding, basically you can collapse blocks of code. SlickEdit has this feature. 2. The built in FTP client. This one as well. I used Dreamweaver a while back (admittedly an older version) but I couldn't stand it. But that's IMO. thnx, Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Michael Crute said the following on 12/06/2005 09:53 AM: On 12/6/05, Richard Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, if you are bad at VI things go very slow but if you are good at VI (I am semi-good) you can code FAR faster than any GUI I have ever used. If you take the upfront time to learn how to use VIM you'll discover it is very powerful and very quick. It's even better if you use it in conjunction with screen. Plus you can use VIM on Windows too. Yes, though if you're stuck on Windows I'd suggest using VIM via Putty (even if you're using Putty to SSH to your local machine) so that you can resize your shell window horizontally as well as vertically. - Ben -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Quoting Torgny Bjers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I recommend Zend Studio if you can afford it since it has a GUI for both Windows and Linux FlameBateAnd for those interested in using a real computer/FlameBate, it's GUI also runs under MacOSX. http://zend.com/store/products/zend-studio/requirements.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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[snip] FlameBateAnd for those interested in using a real computer/FlameBate, it's GUI also runs under MacOSX. [/snip] If they are real why aren't there more of them? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 12/6/05, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Crute said the following on 12/06/2005 09:53 AM: On 12/6/05, Richard Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, if you are bad at VI things go very slow but if you are good at VI (I am semi-good) you can code FAR faster than any GUI I have ever used. If you take the upfront time to learn how to use VIM you'll discover it is very powerful and very quick. It's even better if you use it in conjunction with screen. Plus you can use VIM on Windows too. Yes, though if you're stuck on Windows I'd suggest using VIM via Putty (even if you're using Putty to SSH to your local machine) so that you can resize your shell window horizontally as well as vertically. - Ben Well if you properly setup GVIM (turn off the menus and toolbars) you have about the same thing. Thats what I use at work instead of notepad. It works really well. My _gvimrc file looks like so and accomplishes exactly what you are saying with GVIM au GUIEnter * simalt ~x set guioptions= syn on set guifont=Lucida_Console:h9:cANSI set wrap! set nu set tabstop=4 emenu Edit.Color Scheme.torte set nocp set bs=2 set swapfile! -Mike -- Michael E. Crute Software Developer SoftGroup Development Corporation Linux takes junk and turns it into something useful. Windows takes something useful and turns it into junk. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Wow.. Linux must really be real then.. look at all the distributions , kernel patch sets, Window managers, etc./sarcasm # of programs means nothing. it's the quality of the programs. And yes I am a linux user ;) On Tuesday 06 December 2005 13:24, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] FlameBateAnd for those interested in using a real computer/FlameBate, it's GUI also runs under MacOSX. [/snip] If they are real why aren't there more of them? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Jay Blanchard said the following on 12/06/2005 11:24 AM: [snip] FlameBateAnd for those interested in using a real computer/FlameBate, it's GUI also runs under MacOSX. [/snip] If they are real why aren't there more of them? 'cause it's real expensive ;-). - Ben -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 6 Dec 2005, at 19:24, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] FlameBateAnd for those interested in using a real computer/ FlameBate, it's GUI also runs under MacOSX. [/snip] If they are real why aren't there more of them? Because they have 'real' price tags. Shame really, as OS X pisses all over Windows from a great height. Oh well, nothing wrong with being in an elite minority ;) Cheers, Rich -- http://www.corephp.co.uk PHP Development Services -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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[snip] [snip] FlameBateAnd for those interested in using a real computer/ FlameBate, it's GUI also runs under MacOSX. [/snip] If they are real why aren't there more of them? Because they have 'real' price tags. Shame really, as OS X pisses all over Windows from a great height. Oh well, nothing wrong with being in an elite minority ;) [/snip] I wish, oh how I wish (and if you have been reading this list for any amount of time in the past 6 months, you'd know) that Santa Claus would bring me BSD OS's on all of my servers and give our network personel the cajone's to deal with the change. Please Santa? If you give me this I promise to never ask for anything more than peace on Earth, goodwill towards men ever again. Promise. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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When you say SlickEdit has a ftp client built in, is it a separate window that gets launched, or is it more integrated, like you can just right click on your list of files and say put these files up on the server. It's integrated. thnx, Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] [snip] FlameBateAnd for those interested in using a real computer/ FlameBate, it's GUI also runs under MacOSX. [/snip] If they are real why aren't there more of them? Because they have 'real' price tags. Shame really, as OS X pisses all over Windows from a great height. Oh well, nothing wrong with being in an elite minority ;) [/snip] I wish, oh how I wish (and if you have been reading this list for any amount of time in the past 6 months, you'd know) that Santa Claus would bring me BSD OS's on all of my servers and give our network personel the cajone's to deal with the change. Please Santa? If you give me this I promise to never ask for anything more than peace on Earth, goodwill towards men ever again. Promise. Bill's gonna get mad at you. ;) -- John C. Nichel IV Programmer/System Admin (ÜberGeek) Dot Com Holdings of Buffalo 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 6 Dec 2005, at 19:24, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] FlameBateAnd for those interested in using a real computer/ FlameBate, it's GUI also runs under MacOSX. [/snip] If they are real why aren't there more of them? Far to many people have fallen victim to the deception field emanating from Microsoft. The only known cure, barring exceptional innate immunity, is to be exposed to Steve's Reality Distortion Field, which counteracts the deception affects and allows people to recognize the truth. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
Neat, I'll have to check it out. -Original Message- From: Chris Boget [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:14 PM To: Mark Steudel; 'php' Subject: Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP? When you say SlickEdit has a ftp client built in, is it a separate window that gets launched, or is it more integrated, like you can just right click on your list of files and say put these files up on the server. It's integrated. thnx, Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
Jason Petersen wrote: Vim is my editor of preference. If I have to use Windows, I usually go with Homesite (because I already have a licensed copy) or Textpad (because it's better than Notepad). IDEs? Who needs 'em ;) Who? Anyone who understands just how useful a debugger can be in increasing productivity, when used properly (i.e. one should not become dependent upon using the debugger to catch every coding error) ... which is the primary reason why I would recommend Zend Studio. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
John Nichel wrote: Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] [snip] FlameBateAnd for those interested in using a real computer/ FlameBate, it's GUI also runs under MacOSX. [/snip] If they are real why aren't there more of them? Because they have 'real' price tags. Shame really, as OS X pisses all over Windows from a great height. Oh well, nothing wrong with being in an elite minority ;) [/snip] I wish, oh how I wish (and if you have been reading this list for any amount of time in the past 6 months, you'd know) that Santa Claus would bring me BSD OS's on all of my servers and give our network personel the cajone's to deal with the change. Please Santa? If you give me this I promise to never ask for anything more than peace on Earth, goodwill towards men ever again. Promise. Bill's gonna get mad at you. ;) ballmer's gonna throw chairs at jay ;-) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 06:36:33PM +0100, M. Sokolewicz wrote: Jason Petersen wrote: On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Vim is my editor of preference. If I have to use Windows, I usually go with Homesite (because I already have a licensed copy) or Textpad (because it's better than Notepad). IDEs? Who needs 'em ;) Best, Jason same here :) Vim on UNIX machines, and Textpad on Windows man you guys are wimps.. gvim on windows... :) Curt. -- cat .signature: No such file or directory -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
On Dec 6, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Curt Zirzow wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 06:36:33PM +0100, M. Sokolewicz wrote: Jason Petersen wrote: On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Forever now I've been using Frontpage for all my web work including php. I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Vim is my editor of preference. If I have to use Windows, I usually go with Homesite (because I already have a licensed copy) or Textpad (because it's better than Notepad). IDEs? Who needs 'em ;) Best, Jason same here :) Vim on UNIX machines, and Textpad on Windows Shot... BBEdit[1] Dreamweaver[2] on a Mac[3] baby! [1]http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/index.shtml [2]http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/ [3]http://www.apple.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 06:43:49PM -0800, Michael Hulse wrote: On Dec 6, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Curt Zirzow wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 06:36:33PM +0100, M. Sokolewicz wrote: Jason Petersen wrote: On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shot... BBEdit[1] Dreamweaver[2] on a Mac[3] baby! [1]http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/index.shtml [2]http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/ [3]http://www.apple.com/ remove #2 and i'd say you have a rather nice system. Curt. -- cat .signature: No such file or directory -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
On Dec 6, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Mark Steudel wrote: I primarily code in Dreamweaver 8. Two of my favorite features that were added from MX are as follows: 1. Code folding, basically you can collapse blocks of code. If you have to work with other peoples code, matching braces and code folding is an awesome way of just seeing the logical flow of the code, and hide all the details. DW 8 code folding is great because you can select any amount of code and collapse it. The bummer about dreamweaver is that it doesn't detect functions and add a collapse handle to it like Zend Studio, or have the default to automatically collapse functions when you open a page like Zend Studio. Sah-wt! I have yet to upgrade. Waiting to get a new puter. :) Code-folding sound fricken cool! I am pretty stoked that they finally fixed the crappy built-in ftp. But, can you set permissions? I wonder if there is a plugin for DW8 that will detect functions? Me = googling. M -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
