Re: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-06 Thread michael kimsal

Patrick Teague wrote:
> ok, so this makes alot of since...  if I move my website from one server to
> another server I'll have to go through every single file & redo the
> directory structure?  Isn't this the reason for the includes...  so you
> don't have to go through every single file to make changes?  Maybe I should
> go back to ASP...
> 
> #include virtual="/includes/myinclude.inc"
> 
> or is there a way to get this to work via php on apache?

Per http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.ini-set.php, PHP_INCLUDE_PATH 
is an 'ini' setting which you can change - you could either set it in 
your php.ini once, and point it to one common 'includes' direcotry.  Or 
possibly set it per apache virtual server (via .htaccess perhaps in a
main root directory).

Another thought is to simply make all your include statements use a
constant, such as DOCUMENT_ROOT or something else (we use something
else but the idea is the same).  Yes, all includes need to be written as

include(MYDIRPATH."/relative/stuff.php");

Also, try

ini_set(PHP_INCLUDE_PATH,DOCUMENT_ROOT);

at the top of your page(s).  That might do the trick.

but it makes everything a heck of a lot more portable.  Don't go back to 
ASP.  If you really want to use  stuff Apache
supports that via .shtml files.  There are probably ways of getting the
two to work together (PHP and SSI) though I'm not sure why you'd want to 
do so.  :)  Remember ASP is a framework, and VBScript is the popular 
language there.  VBScript doesn't support includes at all - it's ASP 
calling an SSI interpreter, include()ing things, then passing to the 
language.  PHP is just a language.   There are some pretty ugly, 
inelegant things going on under the hood with respect to includes under 
ASP - if you want gorey details let me know.  :)

After writing all this I see it's basically a rehash of the 9/2/2001 
posting in the user comments under include at the php manual site.  Is 
there a reason one of those 3 options isn't viable?

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Re: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-06 Thread Patrick Teague

ok, so this makes alot of since...  if I move my website from one server to
another server I'll have to go through every single file & redo the
directory structure?  Isn't this the reason for the includes...  so you
don't have to go through every single file to make changes?  Maybe I should
go back to ASP...

#include virtual="/includes/myinclude.inc"

or is there a way to get this to work via php on apache?

Patrick



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RE: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-05 Thread Ford, Mike [LSS]

> -Original Message-
> From: Nick Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 01 March 2002 17:30
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> Subject: Re: [PHP] include() and paths
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> * and then Nick Winfield declared
> > I didn't catch the first part of this thread (rampant 
> deletion ahoy) so
> > please excuse if I am talking nadgers.  The way I see it, if you are
> > calling includes/requires from within other includes, the 
> path is that of
> > the script that makes the first include.  If that makes any sense.
> 
> Sure does, just wondered if anyone could see a way round my 
> little wish
> :-) AFAIK there is no easy way to do this and as neither the 
> manual nor
> this list has been able to tell me different I'll have to find another
> solution. Thanks for the help though!

H'mm, the only even *vaguely* useful thing I can think of here is that 
dirname(__FILE__) should give you the full directory path of the *current* include 
file.  Fine for "here-relative" names, but you'd need to manipulate it further to do 
the equivalent of ..-type relativities.

Cheers!

Mike

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Re: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-01 Thread Nick Wilson

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* and then DL Neil declared
> > > RTFM the four pages from
> > > http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.require.php.; There's quite a
> bit
> > > of advice/experience in the user annotations!
> >
> > Please don't RTFM me, that's the first place I went. I didn't find
> what
> > I'm looking for so I came here.
> 
> It's a two-way street: please tell us what you have done so that we
> don't waste our time trying to help you with 'basic' suggestions when
> you're looking for 'the next step up'. Particularly if your enquiry is
> basically the hope that the (good quality/fine) manual doesn't mention
> something - a most unlikely scenario.

If you just want to rude and superior please do it elsewhere, this is a
busy list.

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Re: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-01 Thread Nick Wilson

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* and then Nick Winfield declared
> I didn't catch the first part of this thread (rampant deletion ahoy) so
> please excuse if I am talking nadgers.  The way I see it, if you are
> calling includes/requires from within other includes, the path is that of
> the script that makes the first include.  If that makes any sense.

Sure does, just wondered if anyone could see a way round my little wish
:-) AFAIK there is no easy way to do this and as neither the manual nor
this list has been able to tell me different I'll have to find another
solution. Thanks for the help though!
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Re: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-01 Thread DL Neil

and Nick Wilson opined in what could be seen to be an arrogant
fashion...
> * and then DL Neil declared
> > > masterfile.inc lives in /var/www/includes/ and contains this line:
> > > include("/var/www/includes/anotherfile.inc");
> > >
> > > in index.php I include masterfile.inc and thus get
anotherfile.inc.
> > >
> > > What I'd like to know though is, is it possible to have the
include
> > line
> > > in masterfile.inc specify a url *relative* to itself?
> > > like:
> > > // masterfile.inc
> > > include("anotherfile.inc"); // now the path is relative.
> >
> >
> > AFAIK the options are absolute addressing, relative addressing (to
the
> > php.ini), and http access.
> >
> > RTFM the four pages from
> > http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.require.php. There's quite a
bit
> > of advice/experience in the user annotations!
>
> Please don't RTFM me, that's the first place I went. I didn't find
what
> I'm looking for so I came here.

It's a two-way street: please tell us what you have done so that we
don't waste our time trying to help you with 'basic' suggestions when
you're looking for 'the next step up'. Particularly if your enquiry is
basically the hope that the (good quality/fine) manual doesn't mention
something - a most unlikely scenario.
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Re: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-01 Thread Nick Winfield

On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Nick Wilson wrote:

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> * and then DL Neil declared
> > > masterfile.inc lives in /var/www/includes/ and contains this line:
> > > include("/var/www/includes/anotherfile.inc");
> > >
> > > in index.php I include masterfile.inc and thus get anotherfile.inc.
> > >
> > > What I'd like to know though is, is it possible to have the include
> > line
> > > in masterfile.inc specify a url *relative* to itself?
> > > like:
> > > // masterfile.inc
> > > include("anotherfile.inc"); // now the path is relative.
> >
> >
> > AFAIK the options are absolute addressing, relative addressing (to the
> > php.ini), and http access.
> >
> > RTFM the four pages from
> > http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.require.php.; There's quite a bit
> > of advice/experience in the user annotations!
>
> Please don't RTFM me, that's the first place I went. I didn't find what
> I'm looking for so I came here.

I didn't catch the first part of this thread (rampant deletion ahoy) so
please excuse if I am talking nadgers.  The way I see it, if you are
calling includes/requires from within other includes, the path is that of
the script that makes the first include.  If that makes any sense.

So if you have a file called includes.php in your /home/webroot that
includes/requires files in a subdir called /home/webroot/stuff/ and those
files include/require other files within that same directory (such as
/home/webroot/stuff/class.cheese.php), then the includes would look like
this:

# index.php
include("includes.php");
.
.
.
.

# includes.php
include("stuff/dbstuff.php");
.
.
.
.

# stuff/dbstuff.php
include ("stuff/class.cheese.php");
.
.
.
.

Am I making any sense? :-)

Regards,

Nick Winfield.


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Re: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-01 Thread Nick Wilson

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* and then DL Neil declared
> > masterfile.inc lives in /var/www/includes/ and contains this line:
> > include("/var/www/includes/anotherfile.inc");
> >
> > in index.php I include masterfile.inc and thus get anotherfile.inc.
> >
> > What I'd like to know though is, is it possible to have the include
> line
> > in masterfile.inc specify a url *relative* to itself?
> > like:
> > // masterfile.inc
> > include("anotherfile.inc"); // now the path is relative.
> 
> 
> AFAIK the options are absolute addressing, relative addressing (to the
> php.ini), and http access.
> 
> RTFM the four pages from
> http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.require.php.; There's quite a bit
> of advice/experience in the user annotations!

Please don't RTFM me, that's the first place I went. I didn't find what
I'm looking for so I came here.
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Re: [PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-01 Thread DL Neil

Hi Nick,

> masterfile.inc lives in /var/www/includes/ and contains this line:
> include("/var/www/includes/anotherfile.inc");
>
> in index.php I include masterfile.inc and thus get anotherfile.inc.
>
> What I'd like to know though is, is it possible to have the include
line
> in masterfile.inc specify a url *relative* to itself?
> like:
> // masterfile.inc
> include("anotherfile.inc"); // now the path is relative.


AFAIK the options are absolute addressing, relative addressing (to the
php.ini), and http access.

RTFM the four pages from
http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.require.php. There's quite a bit
of advice/experience in the user annotations!

Regards,
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[PHP] include() and paths

2002-03-01 Thread Nick Wilson

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Hi all, 
Here's the scenario.

masterfile.inc lives in /var/www/includes/ and contains this line:

include("/var/www/includes/anotherfile.inc");

in index.php I include masterfile.inc and thus get anotherfile.inc.
Simple (I hope)

What I'd like to know though is, is it possible to have the include line
in masterfile.inc specify a url *relative* to itself?


like:

// masterfile.inc
include("anotherfile.inc"); // now the path is relative.


Many thanks

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