Re: [PHP] How does one reply to messages on this list?
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 06:44, Sam Smith a...@itab.com wrote: If I just hit 'Reply' I'll send my reply to the individual who created the message. If I hit 'Reply All' my reply will be sent to: Govinda govinda.webdnat...@gmail.com, PHP-General List php-general@lists.php.net and the creator of the message. Neither option seems correct. What's up with that? With our lists (the PHP lists, that is), like many others, we ask that you always hit Reply-All unless you intend to reply personally to an individual. In general, the folks to whom you're replying will be subscribers to the list to which you're writing anyway, and [almost] all modern email clients and services will intelligently discard duplicate messages if it's detected to be from a mailing list or similar method of distribution. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager Documentation, Webmaster Teams http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How does one reply to messages on this list?
Couldn't we just have a reply-to address for the list in the header of the email? So all a fella had to do was hit reply, and it would work? This is how the Apache and the MySQL list works. The PHP list is the only list that I have to manually edit my reply every time. For example, I hit reply all on this message, it is now replying to Daniel, and CC'ing Sam and the php-general. On Dec 16, 2010, at 5:55 AM, Daniel Brown wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 06:44, Sam Smith a...@itab.com wrote: If I just hit 'Reply' I'll send my reply to the individual who created the message. If I hit 'Reply All' my reply will be sent to: Govinda govinda.webdnat...@gmail.com, PHP-General List php-general@lists.php.net and the creator of the message. Neither option seems correct. What's up with that? With our lists (the PHP lists, that is), like many others, we ask that you always hit Reply-All unless you intend to reply personally to an individual. In general, the folks to whom you're replying will be subscribers to the list to which you're writing anyway, and [almost] all modern email clients and services will intelligently discard duplicate messages if it's detected to be from a mailing list or similar method of distribution. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager Documentation, Webmaster Teams http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] How does one reply to messages on this list?
[snip] Couldn't we just have a reply-to address for the list in the header of the email? So all a fella had to do was hit reply, and it would work? This is how the Apache and the MySQL list works. The PHP list is the only list that I have to manually edit my reply every time. For example, I hit reply all on this message, it is now replying to Daniel, and CC'ing Sam and the php-general. [/snip] Oh crap, here we go again. STFA, this comes up a couple of times an annum. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How does one reply to messages on this list?
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 09:19, Nicholas Kell n...@monkeyknight.com wrote: Couldn't we just have a reply-to address for the list in the header of the email? So all a fella had to do was hit reply, and it would work? The easiest (and most accurate) answer: no. This is how the Apache and the MySQL list works. The PHP list is the only list that I have to manually edit my reply every time. Actually, MySQL does not work that way. And it's been several years since I posted to any of the Apache lists, but I do seem to remember that being the case there. It was annoying. It's so much more intuitive to know that hitting Reply goes to the individual, whereas Reply-All will, as the option suggests, reply to all. For example, I hit reply all on this message, it is now replying to Daniel, and CC'ing Sam and the php-general. Correct but what's the problem? We're all only receiving one copy of the email, I'm sure. We've done it this way from the beginning, and have no intention of changing it. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager Documentation, Webmaster Teams http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How does one reply to messages on this list?
On Dec 16, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Daniel Brown wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 09:19, Nicholas Kell n...@monkeyknight.com wrote: Couldn't we just have a reply-to address for the list in the header of the email? So all a fella had to do was hit reply, and it would work? The easiest (and most accurate) answer: no. Ok. This is how the Apache and the MySQL list works. The PHP list is the only list that I have to manually edit my reply every time. Actually, MySQL does not work that way. And it's been several years since I posted to any of the Apache lists, but I do seem to remember that being the case there. It was annoying. It's so much more intuitive to know that hitting Reply goes to the individual, whereas Reply-All will, as the option suggests, reply to all. I apologize, you are correct MySQL does not. I guess to me it seemed intuitive that replying went to the list, considering the list is where it (should have) came from. The sender only being a secondary recipient. Also, knowing that I will more than likely never want to send anything directly to the sender anyway. For example, I hit reply all on this message, it is now replying to Daniel, and CC'ing Sam and the php-general. Correct but what's the problem? We're all only receiving one copy of the email, I'm sure. We've done it this way from the beginning, and have no intention of changing it. We've done it this way from the beginning says it all. No problem. I am not asking for the world to change. In fact I am not asking for anything at all. I was just bringing to light a few things that I thought were valuable to the OP's message. I am using the latest Mac Mail on 10.6, and I do actually receive two copies of the message whenever someone replies all. That is pretty annoying, but it's not a big deal. I guess my client is not intelligently discarding duplicate messages. Thank goodness it's not though, or I wouldn't know how to repetitively test email sending when working on projects. Every time that I replied to a message, I always took out the senders email and entered the php-general email, but perhaps I was breaking protocol? I guess I thought I was just being considerate to the sender, by not sending duplicate messages. From now on I will hit reply all, and be done with it. Bottom line - I am glad my email client gives me all the messages that are sent to it, and nothing is going to (or needs to) change, so I suppose that this message will, by some be considered spam. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How does one reply to messages on this list?
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 08:19:52AM -0600, Nicholas Kell wrote: Couldn't we just have a reply-to address for the list in the header of the email? So all a fella had to do was hit reply, and it would work? This is how the Apache and the MySQL list works. The PHP list is the only list that I have to manually edit my reply every time. For example, I hit reply all on this message, it is now replying to Daniel, and CC'ing Sam and the php-general. Lists to which one does not have to be subscribed to post are often set up this way. My local Linux users group list does it the way you suggest, because it's a closed list. But the originators of any list set up things the way they believe is best, and there's no benefit to arguing about it. There are heated arguments about both ways of setting up a list, just like there are with top- and bottom-posting. The final authority is the list admin for the list you're posting to. And he's generally unsympathetic to opposing viewpoints. Paul -- Paul M. Foster -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How does one reply to messages on this list?
On Dec 16, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Paul M Foster wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 08:19:52AM -0600, Nicholas Kell wrote: Couldn't we just have a reply-to address for the list in the header of the email? So all a fella had to do was hit reply, and it would work? This is how the Apache and the MySQL list works. The PHP list is the only list that I have to manually edit my reply every time. For example, I hit reply all on this message, it is now replying to Daniel, and CC'ing Sam and the php-general. Lists to which one does not have to be subscribed to post are often set up this way. My local Linux users group list does it the way you suggest, because it's a closed list. But the originators of any list set up things the way they believe is best, and there's no benefit to arguing about it. There are heated arguments about both ways of setting up a list, just like there are with top- and bottom-posting. The final authority is the list admin for the list you're posting to. And he's generally unsympathetic to opposing viewpoints. Sorry if I came off as argumentative, I didn't intend for that. I absolutely agree that the admin has last word and generally unsympathetic to opposing viewpoints. I am compliant. Let me give a formal apology to the list, for unscrewing the cap off the can of worms. I apologize, and you wont hear another word from me on this. Since, it is, after all not a big deal to me. It's just an email list. This list has brought better things to the table for many people than chattering about email list preferences. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How does one reply to messages on this list?
Let me give a formal apology to the list, for unscrewing the cap off the can of worms. NIcholas, just so you know you are appreciated for asking the Q in the first place: ..some of us are new here.. or only lurk enough to catch some of the threads... and so I was also missing some of the subtleties in how the list send copies to whom, and why. Your Q, and the replies.. clarified much. Thank you! -Govinda -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How does one reply to messages on this list?
On Thursday 16 December 2010, Sam Smith a...@itab.com wrote: If I just hit 'Reply' I'll send my reply to the individual who created the message. If I hit 'Reply All' my reply will be sent to: Govinda govinda.webdnat...@gmail.com, PHP-General List php-general@lists.php.net and the creator of the message. Neither option seems correct. What's up with that? If your MUA (or email client) is smart enough, it should have at least Reply, Reply to Sender, Reply to All and Reply to Mailing List. Here I have all those options. Thanks Best regards, -- Daniel Molina Wegener dmw [at] coder [dot] cl System Programmer Web Developer Phone: +56 (2) 979-0277 | Blog: http://coder.cl/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [PHP] How does one reply to messages on this list?
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Daniel Molina Wegener d...@coder.cl wrote: If your MUA (or email client) is smart enough, it should have at least Reply, Reply to Sender, Reply to All and Reply to Mailing List. To which my client adds Reply to /dev/null, Reply to Those Who Actually Care, and Reply to Al Gore. It's much smarter than the average MUA. David
RE: [PHP] How does one reply to messages on this list?
[snip] To which my client adds Reply to /dev/null, Reply to Those Who Actually Care, and Reply to Al Gore. It's much smarter than the average MUA. [/snip] It could be argued that replying to Al Gore might not be all that smart. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
