RE: [PHP] IMAP extension causing delays

2006-10-25 Thread Edward Kay
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 From: Edward Kay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 19 October 2006 14:53
 To: php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: [PHP] IMAP extension causing delays

 Hello,

 I need PHP's IMAP extension for my web app but it is really slowing my
 server up.

 My setup: Fedora Core 5, Apache 2.2.2, PHP 5.1.4 (run as CGI with suPHP),
 PHP IMAP extension - all standard FC5 RPMs. The test page is
 simple - just a
 call to phpinfo().

 Without the IMAP extension, the response time is almost
 immediate. With the
 IMAP extension it takes 2-3 seconds to respond - sometimes as much as 4
 secs.

 Watching with 'top', I can see php-cgi is called immediately when the
 request is received. With the IMAP extension installed, after php-cgi
 starts, it then drops to the end of the 'top' list, consuming 0% CPU and
 2.0% memory. It remains there for the 2-3 second delay before coming into
 play again an running the script quickly. Without the IMAP extension, it
 just ends quickly having finished the request.

 From this, it is clear to me there is some major delay being
 introduced by
 the loading of the IMAP extension. Any ideas on how to resolve this?

 Thanks,
 Edward


Thanks to all the suggestions I received on this issue.

I have tried running PHP as an Apache module. As Jochem mentioned, this
restricts the startup delay to just when Apache starts, not with each
request - which is a great improvement.

I have also set the various configuration options in the VirtualHost
directives so my requirement for separate php.ini files has been removed.

There is one remaining issue though - how to get my PHP scripts to run under
different usernames for each virtual host. I need my PHP scripts to run as
specfic users as they need to interact with the filesystem. I am using
suExec and have set the SuexecUserGroup directive for each virtual host, but
this isn't used as PHP is not called by CGI.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Edward

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Re: [PHP] IMAP extension causing delays

2006-10-23 Thread Richard Lynch

You may also want to read PHP IMAP source and see what it does in its
initializiation function.

That may reduce the category of DNS Error to something a lot more
specific...

http://lxr.php.net/


On Thu, October 19, 2006 8:52 am, Edward Kay wrote:
 Hello,

 I need PHP's IMAP extension for my web app but it is really slowing my
 server up.

 My setup: Fedora Core 5, Apache 2.2.2, PHP 5.1.4 (run as CGI with
 suPHP),
 PHP IMAP extension - all standard FC5 RPMs. The test page is simple -
 just a
 call to phpinfo().

 Without the IMAP extension, the response time is almost immediate.
 With the
 IMAP extension it takes 2-3 seconds to respond - sometimes as much as
 4
 secs.

 Watching with 'top', I can see php-cgi is called immediately when the
 request is received. With the IMAP extension installed, after php-cgi
 starts, it then drops to the end of the 'top' list, consuming 0% CPU
 and
 2.0% memory. It remains there for the 2-3 second delay before coming
 into
 play again an running the script quickly. Without the IMAP extension,
 it
 just ends quickly having finished the request.

 From this, it is clear to me there is some major delay being
 introduced by
 the loading of the IMAP extension. Any ideas on how to resolve this?

 Thanks,
 Edward

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Re: [PHP] IMAP extension causing delays

2006-10-19 Thread Jochem Maas
Edward Kay wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I need PHP's IMAP extension for my web app but it is really slowing my 
 server up.
 
 My setup: Fedora Core 5, Apache 2.2.2, PHP 5.1.4 (run as CGI with suPHP), 
 PHP IMAP extension - all standard FC5 RPMs. The test page is simple - just a 
 call to phpinfo().
 
 Without the IMAP extension, the response time is almost immediate. With the 
 IMAP extension it takes 2-3 seconds to respond - sometimes as much as 4 
 secs.
 
 Watching with 'top', I can see php-cgi is called immediately when the 
 request is received. With the IMAP extension installed, after php-cgi 
 starts, it then drops to the end of the 'top' list, consuming 0% CPU and 
 2.0% memory. It remains there for the 2-3 second delay before coming into 
 play again an running the script quickly. Without the IMAP extension, it 
 just ends quickly having finished the request.
 
 From this, it is clear to me there is some major delay being introduced by 
 the loading of the IMAP extension. Any ideas on how to resolve this?

use php as an apache module - thereby the startup delay is only noticed when
the webserver starts - this assumes that the problem is a startup problem ...

what you describe could be down to a dns configuration error - i.e. the imap 
extension
is trying to resolve some domainname and having a hard time of it I can't 
remember
the specifics of such issues but I know that the archives of this list will 
turn up more info
regarding dns config problems (that cause slow downs)

 
 Thanks,
 Edward 
 

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Re: [PHP] IMAP extension causing delays

2006-10-19 Thread John Nichel

Edward Kay wrote:

Hello,

I need PHP's IMAP extension for my web app but it is really slowing my 
server up.


My setup: Fedora Core 5, Apache 2.2.2, PHP 5.1.4 (run as CGI with suPHP), 
PHP IMAP extension - all standard FC5 RPMs. The test page is simple - just a 
call to phpinfo().


Without the IMAP extension, the response time is almost immediate. With the 
IMAP extension it takes 2-3 seconds to respond - sometimes as much as 4 
secs.


Watching with 'top', I can see php-cgi is called immediately when the 
request is received. With the IMAP extension installed, after php-cgi 
starts, it then drops to the end of the 'top' list, consuming 0% CPU and 
2.0% memory. It remains there for the 2-3 second delay before coming into 
play again an running the script quickly. Without the IMAP extension, it 
just ends quickly having finished the request.


From this, it is clear to me there is some major delay being introduced by 

the loading of the IMAP extension. Any ideas on how to resolve this?



If you don't have to, don't run it as a cgi.

A /possible/ solution, and I don't even know if it's possible, is to 
compile two versions of the cgi; one with and one without.  While I know 
that part is at least possible, I don't know if you can make your 
webserver *choose* which version of the cgi to run depending on the need.


Can the cgi in PHP5 dynamically load modules?  dl() is available in 
PHP4, but I think they got rid of it in PHP5


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RE: [PHP] IMAP extension causing delays

2006-10-19 Thread Edward Kay
 
  From this, it is clear to me there is some major delay being
 introduced by
  the loading of the IMAP extension. Any ideas on how to resolve this?

 use php as an apache module - thereby the startup delay is only
 noticed when
 the webserver starts - this assumes that the problem is a startup
 problem ...

No can do. I need to run my PHP scripts as different users and to interact
with the file system.

 what you describe could be down to a dns configuration error -
 i.e. the imap extension
 is trying to resolve some domainname and having a hard time of
 it I can't remember
 the specifics of such issues but I know that the archives of this
 list will turn up more info
 regarding dns config problems (that cause slow downs)

This sounds very plausible. It certainly seems as if the delay is due to a
timeout or similar. I'll see what I can find on this in the archives.

Thanks!

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Re: [PHP] IMAP extension causing delays

2006-10-19 Thread John Nichel

Edward Kay wrote:

From this, it is clear to me there is some major delay being

introduced by

the loading of the IMAP extension. Any ideas on how to resolve this?

use php as an apache module - thereby the startup delay is only
noticed when
the webserver starts - this assumes that the problem is a startup
problem ...


No can do. I need to run my PHP scripts as different users and to interact
with the file system.



You can still do this running php as a module.  Just enable suexec in 
Apache (and configure it safely of course).


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RE: [PHP] IMAP extension causing delays

2006-10-19 Thread Edward Kay
Thanks for your suggestions John. At the moment, I do need to run it as a
CGI as I need different php.ini files for each virtual host.

I think there may well be some issues with DNS, as suggested by Jochem. My
configuration of DNS stuff locally is a bit patchy :) I'll investigate this
avenue first...


 If you don't have to, don't run it as a cgi.

 A /possible/ solution, and I don't even know if it's possible, is to
 compile two versions of the cgi; one with and one without.  While I know
 that part is at least possible, I don't know if you can make your
 webserver *choose* which version of the cgi to run depending on the need.

 Can the cgi in PHP5 dynamically load modules?  dl() is available in
 PHP4, but I think they got rid of it in PHP5

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 Programmer/System Admin (ÜberGeek)
 Dot Com Holdings of Buffalo
 716.856.9675
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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