Re: [PHP] Licensing
> do not forget the OT on the Subject. That results in messages being blocked by the list server? -- Richard Heyes http://www.phpguru.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Licensing
Richard Heyes schrieb: Hi Per, License costs in EUR, CHF and DKK? Seriously, I would quote the price in one currency only, and leave it for people to convert. Yes I've quoted it in UK pounds, but since the almighty dollah is more well known, I've got an approximate conversion there too. There's one 'm' too many in "commmercial". Thanks. My eyesight strikes again. :-) Hi, do not forget the OT on the Subject. Regards Carlos -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hi Per, > License costs in EUR, CHF and DKK? Seriously, I would quote the price > in one currency only, and leave it for people to convert. Yes I've quoted it in UK pounds, but since the almighty dollah is more well known, I've got an approximate conversion there too. > There's one 'm' too many in "commmercial". Thanks. My eyesight strikes again. :-) -- Richard Heyes http://www.phpguru.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Licensing
Richard Heyes wrote: > Okay, I've taken your points on board and come up with this: > http://www.phpguru.org/static/license.html Better? > License costs in EUR, CHF and DKK? Seriously, I would quote the price in one currency only, and leave it for people to convert. There's one 'm' too many in "commmercial". GPL is probably sufficiently well known not to warrant an explanation, but what is QPL? /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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> No offense, but you asked for pointers. None taken. I may know how to code a reasonable webpage, but selling it when it's done is something else... :-) > I can tell you're a programmer and not a marketer. Exactly. :-) > While your license makes sense to you, the typical person will come away > with "Okay, if I see something I want, I'm not sure what to do. I guess that > I'll have to read the license again." I've tried to simplify the first FAQ. > remember half the population is below average intelligence. I think I may have met a lot of them... :-) > And finally: > > http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.phpguru.org/static/license.html > > Many people say it don't matter, but I'm not one of them. :-) 10 Errors, 19 warning(s) - eesh, I'll put it "on the backburner..." :-) Okay, I've taken your points on board and come up with this: http://www.phpguru.org/static/license.html Better? -- Richard Heyes http://www.phpguru.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Licensing
At 3:34 PM +0100 8/16/08, Richard Heyes wrote: Hi, Don't think me a money grabbing bast (well, I guess I am...) but I'd just like to know if you've got any input on trying to get people to cough up some readies in return for the mounds of free code I give away. I've updated my licensing page just now, and hopefully this will convince more people to buy one: http://www.phpguru.org/static/license.html Thanks for any pointers. -- Richard Heyes Richard: No offense, but you asked for pointers. I can tell you're a programmer and not a marketer. While your license makes sense to you, the typical person will come away with "Okay, if I see something I want, I'm not sure what to do. I guess that I'll have to read the license again." Instead, use a two or three tiered licensing scheme, something like this. General Purpose Unlimited Commercial And briefly describe what each one will Do for your customer -- IOW, don't dwell on what it doesn't cover and be specific and enthused on what it does. You see, in your current description you jump back and forth between what's covered and what's not. After reading your write-up I'm still not sure I could use your "multiple select Javascript / CSS plugin" if I bought a commercial license or not. That's not good. You want it to be easy for customers to understand and purchase your licenses -- remember half the population is below average intelligence. Considering you're trying to sell to programmers, then figure may even be a bit higher. So keep it simple. Also, if I do decide to buy a license -- what's £49 is US dollars? How do I pay you? Do you accept PayPal, Credit Cards or do I send you a goat and two chickens? If you want people to pay you, then give them the opportunity and make it obvious. Oh, I just looked at your page again and on my *third* read, I finally see that you do offer PayPal. Why didn't I catch that the first time? Well, I'm a programmer, but the major reason is that I expect to see a PayPal logo on a site that accepts PayPal. So, use the PayPal logo somewhere on your page! Also, place a few "Buy Now" links here and there -- they work. There's been several books written on this subject -- the best one I've read is "Submit Now" by Andrew Chak -- if you want to pick up one and read the specifics of why these things work. One other note, what's with the "richard at php dot net"? Instead make it easier for users to contact you -- use Enkoder to mask your email address -- here's the link: http://hivelogic.com/enkoder/form And finally: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.phpguru.org/static/license.html Many people say it don't matter, but I'm not one of them. :-) Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Licensing
Sell support. Sell obfuscated code. Sell your software but make the source available upon sale (completely allowed under all open source licenses). On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Eric Butera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Don't think me a money grabbing bast (well, I guess I am...) but I'd > > just like to know if you've got any input on trying to get people to > > cough up some readies in return for the mounds of free code I give > > away. I've updated my licensing page just now, and hopefully this will > > convince more people to buy one: > > http://www.phpguru.org/static/license.html > > > > Thanks for any pointers. > > > > -- > > Richard Heyes > > http://www.phpguru.org > > Sell support like everyone else does. > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >
Re: [PHP] Licensing
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Don't think me a money grabbing bast (well, I guess I am...) but I'd > just like to know if you've got any input on trying to get people to > cough up some readies in return for the mounds of free code I give > away. I've updated my licensing page just now, and hopefully this will > convince more people to buy one: > http://www.phpguru.org/static/license.html > > Thanks for any pointers. > > -- > Richard Heyes > http://www.phpguru.org Sell support like everyone else does. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Licensing??
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:58:03 +0100 "TD - Sales International Holland B.V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned: > On Wednesday 02 January 2002 20:14, Michael A. Peters stuffed this into my > mailbox: > > Hmm but ClibPDF is an additional library package which is not part of the PHP > engine right? > > regards > Yes, you need to specify ClibPDF as a build option and have the library and headers already on your system to build it. But I thought it important to note because there are php binaries floating around that staticly linked against this (and other) libraries that sometimes are used by people who are not aware that they need license to use that particular function of php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Licensing??
On Wednesday 02 January 2002 20:14, Michael A. Peters stuffed this into my mailbox: Hmm but ClibPDF is an additional library package which is not part of the PHP engine right? regards > I would like to note that you may need to purchase licensing for certain > uses. > For instance, I use ClibPDF on OS X. > > If I ever use it for commercial purposes (which I am planning to do, btw) > I will need to purchase a license from FastIO for use of the ClibPDF > library. > > On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 23:00:23 +0100 > > "TD - Sales International Holland B.V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned: > > On Saturday 29 December 2001 05:47, Rasmus Lerdorf stuffed this into my > > mailbox: > > > > No it's free hehe :-) but I think they still appreciate any donations > > > :-). > : > > For since they are developping software they also have to do research n > > stuff > > > so sometimes they have to buy books and some testing hardware which > > mainly is > > > financed by donations I believe (this is general open-source far as I > > know, > > > not PHP project specific) > > > > I'm sure you should be able to find info about it on the homepage. > > > > Regards -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Licensing??
I would like to note that you may need to purchase licensing for certain uses. For instance, I use ClibPDF on OS X. If I ever use it for commercial purposes (which I am planning to do, btw) I will need to purchase a license from FastIO for use of the ClibPDF library. On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 23:00:23 +0100 "TD - Sales International Holland B.V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned: > On Saturday 29 December 2001 05:47, Rasmus Lerdorf stuffed this into my > mailbox: > > No it's free hehe :-) but I think they still appreciate any donations :-). > For since they are developping software they also have to do research n stuff > so sometimes they have to buy books and some testing hardware which mainly is > financed by donations I believe (this is general open-source far as I know, > not PHP project specific) > > I'm sure you should be able to find info about it on the homepage. > > Regards > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Licensing??
On Saturday 29 December 2001 05:47, Rasmus Lerdorf stuffed this into my mailbox: No it's free hehe :-) but I think they still appreciate any donations :-). For since they are developping software they also have to do research n stuff so sometimes they have to buy books and some testing hardware which mainly is financed by donations I believe (this is general open-source far as I know, not PHP project specific) I'm sure you should be able to find info about it on the homepage. Regards > Well, PHP is not under the GPL. But you still don't need to buy any sort > of license. > > -Rasmus > > On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Bogdan Stancescu wrote: > > LOL! You may want to read this for clarification: > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html > > > > Bogdan > > > > "Andrew V. Romero" wrote: > > > what do they get out of it? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Licensing??
Welcome to the world of free software. Matthew Walker Ecommerce Project Manager Mountain Top Herbs -Original Message- From: Andrew V. Romero [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Licensing?? I am looking into installing php on some of our hospital servers and was wondering about licensing issues. Are you suppose to purchase any type of license for installing php on a commercial server? It seems a little on the strange side that they (the php people) would just let you install and use their product for free, what do they get out of it? Thanks for any information, Andrew V. Romero -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/2001 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/2001 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ok, I was misled by the manual copyright at http://www.php.net/manual/en/copyright.php -- anyway, it's the same sprit, I believe. Bogdan Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > Well, PHP is not under the GPL. But you still don't need to buy any sort > of license. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, PHP is not under the GPL. But you still don't need to buy any sort of license. -Rasmus On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Bogdan Stancescu wrote: > LOL! You may want to read this for clarification: > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html > > Bogdan > > "Andrew V. Romero" wrote: > > > what do they get out of it? > > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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LOL! You may want to read this for clarification: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Bogdan "Andrew V. Romero" wrote: > what do they get out of it? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
