Re: [PHP] Directory permissions question

2010-04-19 Thread Peter Lind
On 19 April 2010 17:18, Al  wrote:
>
>
> On 4/19/2010 11:11 AM, Adam Richardson wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Al  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm working on a hosted website that was hacked and found something I
>>> don't
>>> fully understand. Thought someone here may know the answer.
>>>
>>> The site has 4 php malicious files in directories owned by "system" [php
>>> created dirs on the site are named "nobody"] and permissions 755.
>>>
>>> Is there any way the files could have been written other than by ftp
>>> access
>>> or at the host root level? Clearly a php script couldn't.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Al..
>>>
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>> Are there any other programming options enabled on the account (Perl, JSP,
>> Ruby, etc?)  Even if the files are PHP, any of those programming options
>> can
>> be configured to create the files.
>>
>> Additionally, a vulnerability in one of the libraries leveraged to provide
>> the hosting environment could also have provided the entry (PHP makes for
>> a
>> capable deliverable, but it doesn't have to provide the key for a hacking
>> situation.)
>>
>> Adam
>>
>
> Are Perl, JSP, Ruby, etc. able to ignore the dir ownership and write
> permissions on a Linux/Apache system?
>

I've seen an install of Trac hacked by a file-upload - it managed to
write a cron job, which then wrote to other files. It's not just a
question of whether your Apache server has the correct
rights/permissions, it's equally a question of: is any other part of
the system getting used against me.

Regards
Peter

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Re: [PHP] Directory permissions question

2010-04-19 Thread Al Rider

Apache 2.0.63
php 5.2.8

I know both are obsolete and need updating. I told my client to request 
same from their ISP.


Al

On 4/19/2010 12:01 PM, Jim Lucas wrote:

Al wrote:
   

I'm working on a hosted website that was hacked and found something I
don't fully understand. Thought someone here may know the answer.

The site has 4 php malicious files in directories owned by "system" [php
created dirs on the site are named "nobody"] and permissions 755.

Is there any way the files could have been written other than by ftp
access or at the host root level? Clearly a php script couldn't.

Thanks, Al..

 

What version of Apache/PHP is it running?

   


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Re: [PHP] Directory permissions question

2010-04-19 Thread Jim Lucas
Al wrote:
> I'm working on a hosted website that was hacked and found something I
> don't fully understand. Thought someone here may know the answer.
> 
> The site has 4 php malicious files in directories owned by "system" [php
> created dirs on the site are named "nobody"] and permissions 755.
> 
> Is there any way the files could have been written other than by ftp
> access or at the host root level? Clearly a php script couldn't.
> 
> Thanks, Al..
> 

What version of Apache/PHP is it running?

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Re: [PHP] Directory permissions question

2010-04-19 Thread Al



On 4/19/2010 11:11 AM, Adam Richardson wrote:

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Al  wrote:


I'm working on a hosted website that was hacked and found something I don't
fully understand. Thought someone here may know the answer.

The site has 4 php malicious files in directories owned by "system" [php
created dirs on the site are named "nobody"] and permissions 755.

Is there any way the files could have been written other than by ftp access
or at the host root level? Clearly a php script couldn't.

Thanks, Al..

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Are there any other programming options enabled on the account (Perl, JSP,
Ruby, etc?)  Even if the files are PHP, any of those programming options can
be configured to create the files.

Additionally, a vulnerability in one of the libraries leveraged to provide
the hosting environment could also have provided the entry (PHP makes for a
capable deliverable, but it doesn't have to provide the key for a hacking
situation.)

Adam



Are Perl, JSP, Ruby, etc. able to ignore the dir ownership and write permissions 
on a Linux/Apache system?


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Re: [PHP] Directory permissions question

2010-04-19 Thread Adam Richardson
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Al  wrote:

> I'm working on a hosted website that was hacked and found something I don't
> fully understand. Thought someone here may know the answer.
>
> The site has 4 php malicious files in directories owned by "system" [php
> created dirs on the site are named "nobody"] and permissions 755.
>
> Is there any way the files could have been written other than by ftp access
> or at the host root level? Clearly a php script couldn't.
>
> Thanks, Al..
>
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>
Are there any other programming options enabled on the account (Perl, JSP,
Ruby, etc?)  Even if the files are PHP, any of those programming options can
be configured to create the files.

Additionally, a vulnerability in one of the libraries leveraged to provide
the hosting environment could also have provided the entry (PHP makes for a
capable deliverable, but it doesn't have to provide the key for a hacking
situation.)

Adam

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