Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-12 Thread Lenin
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: Sorry for TOP posting This mailing list also don't force us to be good :) FORCE, no. ENCOURAGE, yes. Particularly in long threads like this one. Check the rules. They're not just there to take up space

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-12 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Leninle...@phpxperts.net wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: Sorry for TOP posting This mailing list also don't force us to be good :)    FORCE, no.  ENCOURAGE, yes.  Particularly in long threads like this

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-12 Thread Lenin
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Eddie Drapkin oorza...@gmail.com wrote: 2) Why does every thread lately degrade into chatter about top/bottom posting? *looks RIGHT AT D. Brown* Ask him :D :P

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-12 Thread tedd
At 5:16 AM +0530 7/12/09, Zareef Ahmed wrote: I always said : Being good and Being FORCED to be good are two different things... and PHP normally don't force us to be good that why PHP is the most popular programming language with a large code base which WORKS but not as per the standard or

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-12 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 03:08, Eddie Drapkinoorza...@gmail.com wrote: Two things: 1) I've never head of an email list changing their rules to cater to a fringe crowd, like Nokia 6020 users. 2) Why does every thread lately degrade into chatter about top/bottom posting? *looks RIGHT AT D.

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-12 Thread Paul M Foster
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:23:11AM -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: snip I used $html =HTML because it then syntax-highlights as HTML+PHP in Vim, and as many know, almost everything I do is from the command line and Vim. Vim FTW! (And mutt for the pwnage!) Paul -- Paul M. Foster -- PHP

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Zareef Ahmed
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Govinda govinda.webdnat...@gmail.comwrote: On Jul 10, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Zareef Ahmed wrote: heredoc was there to work with the strings... why you want to use functions into that? I'm lazy. Like to type less. ;-) It is well known fact that normally

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread tedd
At 8:34 PM -0400 7/10/09, Daniel Brown wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 20:25, Govindagovinda.webdnat...@gmail.com wrote: How do I get basename(__FILE__) or htmlentities($somevar) to be evaluated in a heredoc? You don't. Instead, you have to store the output from those in a variable

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Saturday 11 July 2009 15:23:55 tedd wrote: At 8:34 PM -0400 7/10/09, Daniel Brown wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 20:25, Govindagovinda.webdnat...@gmail.com wrote: How do I get basename(__FILE__) or htmlentities($somevar) to be evaluated in a heredoc? You don't.

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:42, Ashley Sheridana...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: The braces ensure that PHP doesn't stop parsing the variable name once it reaches the [. By default, it will only match a variable name up to the [ sign, so you couldn't access arrays without the braces.

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread tedd
At 3:42 PM +0100 7/11/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Saturday 11 July 2009 15:23:55 tedd wrote: At 8:34 PM -0400 7/10/09, Daniel Brown wrote: -snip- $html =HTML bFile Name:/b {$filedata['name']}br / bFile Size:/b {$filedata['size']}br / b\$somevar/b: {$somevar}br / HTML;

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:05, teddtedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: Side note: Paul Novitski showed me using an underscore for heredocs: $html =_ whatever _; That I thought was kind of neat. To me it makes heredocs stand out and are more uniform. I used $html =HTML because it then

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Saturday 11 July 2009 16:05:55 tedd wrote: At 3:42 PM +0100 7/11/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Saturday 11 July 2009 15:23:55 tedd wrote: At 8:34 PM -0400 7/10/09, Daniel Brown wrote: -snip- $html =HTML bFile Name:/b {$filedata['name']}br / bFile Size:/b

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Saturday 11 July 2009 16:23:11 Daniel Brown wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:05, teddtedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: Side note: Paul Novitski showed me using an underscore for heredocs: $html =_ whatever _; That I thought was kind of neat. To me it makes heredocs stand out and

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread tedd
At 11:23 AM -0400 7/11/09, Daniel Brown wrote: and as many know, almost everything I do is from the command line I stopped using the command-line when I moved from my old Apple ][ to the Mac. I know I should get back into it, but there is so much there it's overwhelming. Using the terminal

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 13:45, Eddie Drapkinoorza...@gmail.com wrote: If that's true, then we've found an error reporting bug! I've never seen an error/warning raised, even with my usual error_reporting(E_ALL | E_STRICT | E_DEPRACATED)!  The warning is raised here, though: $foo =

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Daniel Browndanbr...@php.net wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 13:45, Eddie Drapkinoorza...@gmail.com wrote: If that's true, then we've found an error reporting bug! I've never seen an error/warning raised, even with my usual error_reporting(E_ALL | E_STRICT |

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Daniel Browndanbr...@php.net wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:42, Ashley Sheridana...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: The braces ensure that PHP doesn't stop parsing the variable name once it reaches the [. By default, it will only match a variable name up to

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Daniel Browndanbr...@php.net wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 13:35, Daniel Browndanbr...@php.net wrote:    It works fine because you're forcing PHP to cast 'hello' in your array from a simple boolean TRUE to the string equivalent.    sed s/string

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 13:26, Eddie Drapkinoorza...@gmail.com wrote: Uhm you don't need braces around arrays unless you're using more than one dimension in the array. This works perfectly fine for me: ?php $bar = array('hello' = goodbye); $foo = EOT $bar[hello] EOT; echo $foo;  

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Govinda
On Jul 11, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Eddie Drapkin wrote: $foo = EOT $bar[hello] EOT; what does EOT stand for? (I realize that string can be anything.. but I am just asking what EOT means to everyone? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Govindagovinda.webdnat...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 11, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Eddie Drapkin wrote: $foo = EOT $bar[hello] EOT; what does EOT stand for? (I realize that string can be anything..  but I am just asking what EOT means to everyone? I just use it as

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Lenin
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Eddie Drapkin oorza...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Govindagovinda.webdnat...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 11, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Eddie Drapkin wrote: $foo = EOT $bar[hello] EOT; what does EOT stand for? (I realize that string can

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread tedd
At 3:34 AM +0700 7/12/09, Lenin wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Eddie Drapkin oorza...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Govindagovinda.webdnat...@gmail.com wrote: what does EOT stand for? (I realize that string can be anything.. but I am just asking what EOT

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 5:37 PM, teddtedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: At 3:34 AM +0700 7/12/09, Lenin wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Eddie Drapkin oorza...@gmail.com wrote:  On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Govindagovinda.webdnat...@gmail.com   wrote:   what does EOT stand for?  

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Zareef Ahmed
I always said : Being good and Being FORCED to be good are two different things... and PHP normally don't force us to be good that why PHP is the most popular programming language with a large code base which WORKS but not as per the standard or recommended way ; so keep you old code as long as

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-11 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 19:46, Zareef Ahmedzareef.ah...@gmail.com wrote: I always said :  Being good and Being FORCED to be good  are two different things... and PHP normally don't force us to be good that why PHP is the most popular programming language with a large code base which WORKS but

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-10 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Govindagovinda.webdnat...@gmail.com wrote: How do I  get basename(__FILE__) or htmlentities($somevar) to be evaluated  in a heredoc? Govinda govinda.webdnat...@gmail.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe,

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-10 Thread Daniel Brown
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 20:25, Govindagovinda.webdnat...@gmail.com wrote: How do I  get basename(__FILE__) or htmlentities($somevar) to be evaluated  in a heredoc? You don't. Instead, you have to store the output from those in a variable (or array), then place it into the HEREDOC it.

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-10 Thread Zareef Ahmed
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Govinda govinda.webdnat...@gmail.comwrote: How do I get basename(__FILE__) or htmlentities($somevar) to be evaluated in a heredoc? heredoc was there to work with the strings... why you want to use functions into that? Govinda

Re: [PHP] I am RTFM, but still stumbling on how to get built-in functions parsed in heredoc

2009-07-10 Thread Govinda
On Jul 10, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Zareef Ahmed wrote: heredoc was there to work with the strings... why you want to use functions into that? I'm lazy. Like to type less. ;-) But now I know. Thanks guys. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: