Re: [PHP] If PHP4 existed in 1995 we would of taken over the world by now
On Lun 03 Sep 2001 17:49, Bob wrote: > Hi Maxim, > > Hotmail was hot because nobody had ever seen free webmail and it spread by > word of mouth. I don't know but did anyone see a hotmail commerical??? > > What I am saying is that if php is always following or copying the > technology that happened a couple years ago then what's the point? php > will then always be known as the low cost option and project managers won't > even give it a second look. What I am looking for is the cool factor. I > know technology needs time to improve but what's going to be cool in > PHP5??? It's like a race that never finishes and who is winning? ASP or > PHP? Well, whats your contribution? I mean, ideas. Like what would you like PHP to have in the version 5? I am in some other free projects, and I can tell you that there is so much to do, that the developers don't have time to finish them, so you'll see in the TODO lists things like: "Didn't have time to finish it. Maybe in the next version." But let me say one last things, the developers also need some ideas, like what you want, and if ASP has something interesting that PHP doesn't then you have to go for it! At least that's my thinking Saludos... ;-) -- Porqué usar una base de datos relacional cualquiera, si podés usar PostgreSQL? - Martín Marqués |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programador, Administrador, DBA | Centro de Telematica Universidad Nacional del Litoral - -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] If PHP4 existed in 1995 we would of taken over the world by now
Hi Maxim, Hotmail was hot because nobody had ever seen free webmail and it spread by word of mouth. I don't know but did anyone see a hotmail commerical??? What I am saying is that if php is always following or copying the technology that happened a couple years ago then what's the point? php will then always be known as the low cost option and project managers won't even give it a second look. What I am looking for is the cool factor. I know technology needs time to improve but what's going to be cool in PHP5??? It's like a race that never finishes and who is winning? ASP or PHP? Maxim Derkachev wrote: > Hello Bob, > > Monday, September 03, 2001, 1:08:40 PM, you wrote: > B> If in 1995 you tell a project manager that I can program > B> hotmail.com in a couple weeks and that it would be a lot faster then cgi > B> then they would of been forced to use it and all the marketing would not > B> matter. > Then (maybe) hotmail could have been written in php, but again, it > would be hotmail, not squirrelmail. We know hotmail as it is now not because > it is written in perl/asp/php/jsp/whatever, but because it is simply a > successful project. Marketing and promotion here means more than the > underlying engine - without it there would be no hotmail or yahoo, but > something else, like, say, coldmail and hoooya, better promoted. > > Meanwhile, there were no microwave oven in 1950. It simply could not > exist in 1950. Like PHP, ASP, JSP, etc. could not exist in 1985 in the > current form. Technology needs time to improve. > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim Derkachev mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > System administrator & programmer, > Symbol-Plus Publishing Ltd. > phone: +7 (812) 324-53-53 > www.books.ru, www.symbol.ru _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] If PHP4 existed in 1995 we would of taken over the world by now
Hi Maxim People have been talking about the future of php and I think that it is the functionality of the language that will propel php as the defacto language for websites. If in 1995 you tell a project manager that I can program hotmail.com in a couple weeks and that it would be a lot faster then cgi then they would of been forced to use it and all the marketing would not matter. I think first to market is important and php needs to be pushing the boundaries even more. I personally think php should be directing their efforts to something like this site --> http://karaoke.getmusic.com/start.php It uses flash and java to record your voice and a song together and let's you play it back and send to a friend. Now that's cool. Maxim Derkachev wrote: > Hello Bob, > > If someone's grandmother had balls, she would have been someone's > grandfather (Russian idiom). > > Do you really think that the development language a company choose > will make the company successful ?? > > Saturday, September 01, 2001, 7:55:19 AM, you wrote: > > B> If PHP4 existed in 1995 then http://www.squirrelmail.org could of been > B> hotmail.com > B> If PHP4 existed in 1995 then http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu could of > B> been geocities.com > B> If PHP4 existed in 1995 then http://www.phpauction.org could of been > B> ebay.com > B> If PHP4 existed in 1995 then http://www.audiogalaxy.com could of been > B> napster.com > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim Derkachev mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > System administrator & programmer, > Symbol-Plus Publishing Ltd. > phone: +7 (812) 324-53-53 > www.books.ru, www.symbol.ru _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] If PHP4 existed in 1995 we would of taken over the world by now
Hello Bob, If someone's grandmother had balls, she would have been someone's grandfather (Russian idiom). Do you really think that the development language a company choose will make the company successful ?? Saturday, September 01, 2001, 7:55:19 AM, you wrote: B> If PHP4 existed in 1995 then http://www.squirrelmail.org could of been B> hotmail.com B> If PHP4 existed in 1995 then http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu could of B> been geocities.com B> If PHP4 existed in 1995 then http://www.phpauction.org could of been B> ebay.com B> If PHP4 existed in 1995 then http://www.audiogalaxy.com could of been B> napster.com -- Best regards, Maxim Derkachev mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] System administrator & programmer, Symbol-Plus Publishing Ltd. phone: +7 (812) 324-53-53 www.books.ru, www.symbol.ru -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
