Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-06 Thread Martin Cetkovsky
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:23:15 +0100, Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I guess that's sorta what I'm afraid of... PHP# (like the did to Java - J++ - C# ) Don't get me wrong. C# is a great language (probably one of the few things that M$ did right), and I'd LOVE to use a real

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-06 Thread Martin Cetkovsky
Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] I guess that's sorta what I'm afraid of... PHP# (like the did to Java - J++ - C# ) Don't get me wrong. C# is a great language (probably one of the few things that M$ did right), and I'd LOVE to use a real IDE like Visual Studio to dev in... But I'm also

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-06 Thread Rory Browne
On 11/6/06, Martin Cetkovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] I guess that's sorta what I'm afraid of... PHP# (like the did to Java - J++ - C# ) Don't get me wrong. C# is a great language (probably one of the few things that M$ did right), and I'd LOVE to use a

RE: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-06 Thread Ray Hauge
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 2:50 PM To: Martin Cetkovsky Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend On 11/6/06, Martin Cetkovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] I guess that's sorta what I'm afraid of... PHP# (like the did

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-04 Thread André Medeiros
A bit out of topic perhaps, but is this the time to see Steve Balmer and his developers dance all over again? ;) H On 11/3/06, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, November 3, 2006 12:36 pm, Curt Zirzow wrote: Here is the actual demo given:

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-03 Thread Curt Zirzow
Here is the actual demo given: http://blogs.iis.net/bills/archive/2006/10/31/PHP-on-IIS.aspx As seen my numbers were off a little bit from memory. I'm not sure exactly what the kernel cache is, it is some thing the file http.sys thing does and handles requests before IIS even sees them, I'm

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-03 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 10:36 -0800, Curt Zirzow wrote: Here is the actual demo given: http://blogs.iis.net/bills/archive/2006/10/31/PHP-on-IIS.aspx As seen my numbers were off a little bit from memory. I'm not sure exactly what the kernel cache is, it is some thing the file http.sys thing

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-03 Thread Richard Lynch
On Fri, November 3, 2006 12:36 pm, Curt Zirzow wrote: Here is the actual demo given: http://blogs.iis.net/bills/archive/2006/10/31/PHP-on-IIS.aspx As seen my numbers were off a little bit from memory. I'm not sure exactly what the kernel cache is, it is some thing the file http.sys thing

RE: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-02 Thread ray . hauge
on the Windows server, which its track record isn't exactly as good as Linux/BSD systems. Ray Original Message Subject: Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend From: Curt Zirzow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, November 01, 2006 4:53 pm To: steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Daevid Vincent

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-02 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, November 1, 2006 5:53 pm, Curt Zirzow wrote: On 11/1/06, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/1/06, Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I'm unsure. I would like to think that Zend is smart enough to realize M$ tactics of embrace/extend and will not allow that to

RE: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-02 Thread ray . hauge
Original Message Could you expand the term kernel cache to a formal name so I know if that's an MS technology I don't care about, or a general Zend technology that might apply to LAMP, which I'd be interested in reading more about? Yeah, the kernel caching is through

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 11:37 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: No comments? http://it.slashdot.org/it/06/10/31/2047209.shtml Personally I'm unsure. I would like to think that Zend is smart enough to realize M$ tactics of embrace/extend and will not allow that to happen. I'm not worried, you

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread Ed Lazor
It's great to see Microsoft be so supportive of PHP. Go Andi! :) Personally I'm unsure. I would like to think that Zend is smart enough to realize M$ tactics of embrace/extend and will not allow that to happen. But everyone has a price, and you through enough money at something and you

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, November 1, 2006 1:37 pm, Daevid Vincent wrote: http://it.slashdot.org/it/06/10/31/2047209.shtml I think MS and PHP Devs have met before, in the hopes of getting better integration and performance. I'm sure this is a boon and a feather in their cap for Zend, but, ultimately, I don't see

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread Ed Lazor
ps... I wonder if .NET will ever support PHP *GRIN* On Nov 1, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Ed Lazor wrote: It's great to see Microsoft be so supportive of PHP. Go Andi! :) Personally I'm unsure. I would like to think that Zend is smart enough to realize M$ tactics of embrace/extend and will not

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread Sancar Saran
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 21:37, Daevid Vincent wrote: No comments? http://it.slashdot.org/it/06/10/31/2047209.shtml Well once upon a time one of great M$ exec say We can write better software than OSS). After more than 3 or 4 years we still waiting better Browser, Web Server etc. I do

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 23:08 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: On Wednesday 01 November 2006 21:37, Daevid Vincent wrote: No comments? http://it.slashdot.org/it/06/10/31/2047209.shtml Well once upon a time one of great M$ exec say We can write better software than OSS). After more than 3 or 4

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread Ed Lazor
And writing windows native applications with php under Visual Studio may be interesting... I use RealBasic a lot for cross-platform development... it would be cool if PHP were the base language, instead of Basic *grin* -Ed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Ed Lazor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps... I wonder if .NET will ever support PHP *GRIN* or perhaps something to counter php-gtk... win32php that would would be interesting Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread tg-php
http://www.winbinder.com much better than GTK if you work on Windows platforms and want standalone PHP apps :) And I can't find it now, but a few years ago when I was dipping my toe into the ASP.NET world to try to be compliant with Existing standards in a company I worked for (before

RE: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread Daevid Vincent
-Original Message- From: Ed Lazor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:05 PM Cc: Daevid Vincent; PHP General Subject: Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend ps... I wonder if .NET will ever support PHP *GRIN* I guess that's sorta what I'm afraid

RE: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] I guess that's sorta what I'm afraid of... PHP# (like the did to Java - J++ - C# ) Don't get me wrong. C# is a great language (probably one of the few things that M$ did right), and I'd LOVE to use a real IDE like Visual Studio to dev in... But I'm also terrified they'll pervert

RE: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread ray . hauge
Message Subject: RE: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend From: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, November 01, 2006 3:23 pm To: Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED], PHP General php-general@lists.php.net [snip] I guess that's sorta what I'm afraid of... PHP# (like the did to Java

RE: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread ray . hauge
Message Subject: RE: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend From: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, November 01, 2006 3:23 pm To: Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED], PHP General php-general@lists.php.net [snip] I guess that's sorta what I'm afraid of... PHP# (like the did to Java

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread steve
On 11/1/06, Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I'm unsure. I would like to think that Zend is smart enough to realize M$ tactics of embrace/extend and will not allow that to happen. MS added a FastCGI module to IIS. Thats the big thing. The real question is, why doesn't Apache

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread Curt Zirzow
On 11/1/06, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/1/06, Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I'm unsure. I would like to think that Zend is smart enough to realize M$ tactics of embrace/extend and will not allow that to happen. MS added a FastCGI module to IIS. Thats the big

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Daevid Vincent wrote: -Original Message- From: Ed Lazor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:05 PM Cc: Daevid Vincent; PHP General Subject: Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend ps... I wonder if .NET will ever support PHP *GRIN* I guess that's

Re: [PHP] Microsoft Partners With Zend

2006-11-01 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: The only slight negative as far as you are concerned could be that they may divert some Zend resources to work on Windows issues that aren't interesting to you. But consider that there are 1133 people with PHP cvs accounts. Only 11 work for Zend, and out of those 11