Re: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project

2002-11-09 Thread Bob Eldred
So experiment.  That's exactly how I made my fantasy league stuff work.
Along with a few questions here when I had *specific* issues with code.

Bob

- Original Message -
From: "Karl James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:33 PM
Subject: RE: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project


I have the php bible 4 book but it
Doesn’t tell you how to do things all the way
And still leaves with lots of questions.

-Original Message-
From: Charles Wiltgen [mailto:lists@;wiltgen.net]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:03 PM
To: List ˆ PHP General
Subject: Re: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project

Karl James wrote...

> Would any want to help me with this please get with me asap I need to
be able
> to talk to you thru the end and make sure I do shit right. I want to
do all
> the work, just need a teacher.

As they say, "Just Do It".  Ask specific, PHP-related questions as you
have
them.  If you don't know anything about using PHP and MySQL, buy one of
the
many fine books available on the subject.  Or, you could just pay
someone
to do it for you.

-- Charles Wiltgen


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Re: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project

2002-11-09 Thread Justin French
Hi,

This is a big, complex project for a newbie, and I doubt you're going to
find anyone with the time available to give you a hand.

Can I suggest you start by learning some PHP in relation to forms, form
validation, login, sessions, etc etc.

There's a good article by Kevin Yank on sitepoint.com / webmasterbase.com,
which formed the basis of my own user/login/member/session library which
I've used on many projects. http://www.WebmasterBase.com/article/319  You'll
need register globals ON in your php.ini from memory.


Then, get stuck into form validation and database design...


But please, please, PLEASE stop emailing the same massive emails asking very
non-specific questions, and looking for help... this list works best when
dealing with small, specific problems like "where can I find a good article
on member/session management" NOT "how do I build an entire website".



My suggestion would be to start with a smaller project (like a
search/edit/add/delete/categorise system to catalogue your CD collection),
or pay someone to work on it with you, and teach you as they go.  As you
learn more about the principals, you'll learn the best way(s) to approach
larger projects, like the one you describe.


Justin





on 09/11/02 3:34 AM, Karl James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Ok here is what I need help with
> 
> I need help with how to set up the layout of this project
> 
> 1st I know I need a create account page for owners to create
> there username and password.
> 
> Then once they successfully filled in the form they are logged in
> And taken to the Team choice page..
> 
> Then once you click that you are taken two your team page.
> Their you can view all team stats, Roster, and Schedules
> For NFL and Fantasy Team Schedule
> 
> Then you would have links on your team page
> That would be like
> Claim
> Drop
> Trade
> Submit starters
> 
> Claim
> Would take you to a page that showed you all of the available players,
> with there stats and bye week.
> You would then choose your player by checking the box to the right of
> the total stats column.
> Once you hit claim is one of the hard parts for me.
> 
> The player claim after selecting him and hitting saved. Will have a
> decision of being added to the roster or denied added to roster, there
> are three ways that are denied.  1.over roster size 2. over salary cap
> 3. after deadline.
> 
> If over Roster size you are take to Roster to drop player to get under
> rosters size
> Then take back to the page to claim player then hit claim on player and
> save and the transaction is completed. This is the same thing for the
> salary cap if decision is
> Under $40.000.00.
> 
> This is a major problem for me. Im not sure how to link all of this
> together.
> I Can create normal pages and tables and forms. But the paths and php
> code I need 
> Help with..
> 
> Drop 
> You can always just drop a player and his name would appear on the free
> agent list in real time fashion.
> I want all this to be done I Real time fashion and also I want emails
> sent to me as they were done. And completed.
> 
> Trades
> Trades can happen the same way has the rules 1 2 3 for claim players
> They have to meet all criteria.
> But the interface I want side by side teams and owners be able to choose
> the players and hit check and save..
> 
> If met all criteria it happens and I get email. Then you see the players
> traded on there new Teams.
> 
> Submit starters
> Can be a table with check boxes and hit save total players aloud to
> start we can determine when site is made
> Then once you hit save you are back at you team page. But it has to be
> in before you league deadline.
> Once starters are submitted I want owners to be able to go to a page to
> view all starters that all owners did for that week.
> 
> 
> And I need to have all these issues done in real time.
> 
> And my database is setup in mysql
> Would any want to help me with this please get with me asap
> I need to be able to talk to you thru the end and make sure I do shit
> right.
> I want to do all the work, just need a teacher. Please any help would be
> greatly appreciated.
> Please email back
> Sincerely Karl James
> 
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RE: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project

2002-11-09 Thread Michael Geier
As this is the industry I am in, maybe I can offer a few hints/suggestions to 
start you on your way:

start with the database
  - is your user table built (how much information about the user do you need) ?
  - are you validating the incoming email address (sending an email to confirm
entry) ?
  - are you using a seperate table for storing their selection information ?
- yes, are you storing transactions (logging changes) ?
- no, what happens if they want more than one team ?
  - do you have your rules for your game planned out (deadlines, team size, 
salary cap) ?
  - do you have a support methodology prepared ?

I can answer some generalized questions about methodology of the game (so as 
not to violate my employment agreement), and some general programming issues 
that you may have.

ps. Just to give you an idea, we maintain a staff of programmers, support 
commisioners and system administrators (about 35 people), not to mention 
accounting, advertising and graphic development, to run about 40-50 games a 
year, including games for USA Today, Excite/iWon and Tops.  This development 
has been over 10 years going.  What I am trying to get at is, are you trying to 
make a friendly 'office league' type interface for your friends, or are you 
trying to make something alot bigger?  Be prepared for everything you could 
potentially need for a large operation (did I mention legal department?).

===
Michael Geier
CDM Sports, Inc. Systems Administration
   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   phone: 314.991.1511 x 6505

Quoting Karl James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Jason, I am trying small with forms, reading php
> But I have so many questions that books cant answer sometimes
> Thus the reason I need a guide...
> Would you be able to help me with that?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Wong [mailto:php-general@;gremlins.com.hk] 
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project
> 
> On Saturday 09 November 2002 04:33, Karl James wrote:
> > I have the php bible 4 book but it
> > Doesn't tell you how to do things all the way
> > And still leaves with lots of questions.
> 
> Questions such as? If you have fairly specific questions then they are
> usually 
> answered quite quickly on this list. 
> 
> Open-ended requests such as yours, as you've found out for yourself, are
> 
> usually ignored.
> 
> Honestly it looks as if you're trying to do something beyond your
> current 
> capabilities and you don't even know where to begin. 
> 
> If this is a commercial project just save yourself some grief and pay
> someone 
> to do it for you.
> 
> Otherwise start small. Try the many tutorials that are available on the
> web, 
> learn about how to connect/retrieve/display information from a database,
> how 
> to perform user authentication etc. Once you've broadened your knowledge
> you 
> may be able to see where the pieces fit together and then you can start
> your 
> project.
> 
> -- 
> Jason Wong -> Gremlins Associates -> www.gremlins.com.hk
> Open Source Software Systems Integrators
> * Web Design & Hosting * Internet & Intranet Applications Development *
> 
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> Innovation is hard to schedule.
>   -- Dan Fylstra
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Re: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project

2002-11-09 Thread @ Edwin

"Karl James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have the php bible 4 book but it
> Doesn’t tell you how to do things all the way

Well, I don't think there's a book that would tell you how to do things
"all the way". Besides, if there is, programming wouldn't be fun anymore ;)

Start from small things--I'm sure you'll be glad that you did...

> And still leaves with lots of questions.

Bring 'em in one by one--I'm sure there's a lot of people here who will
be willing to help esp. if you throw in specific questions :)

- E

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RE: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project

2002-11-08 Thread Karl James
Well the problem is I have a lot of questions..
Since im a noobie...sorry I will try to post it

-Original Message-
From: Jason Wong [mailto:php-general@;gremlins.com.hk] 
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project

On Saturday 09 November 2002 05:19, Karl James wrote:
> Jason, I am trying small with forms, reading php
> But I have so many questions that books cant answer sometimes
> Thus the reason I need a guide...
> Would you be able to help me with that?

Why not just post your question(s) here and let everybody help you?

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Re: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project

2002-11-08 Thread Jason Wong
On Saturday 09 November 2002 05:19, Karl James wrote:
> Jason, I am trying small with forms, reading php
> But I have so many questions that books cant answer sometimes
> Thus the reason I need a guide...
> Would you be able to help me with that?

Why not just post your question(s) here and let everybody help you?

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RE: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project

2002-11-08 Thread Karl James
Jason, I am trying small with forms, reading php
But I have so many questions that books cant answer sometimes
Thus the reason I need a guide...
Would you be able to help me with that?

-Original Message-
From: Jason Wong [mailto:php-general@;gremlins.com.hk] 
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project

On Saturday 09 November 2002 04:33, Karl James wrote:
> I have the php bible 4 book but it
> Doesn't tell you how to do things all the way
> And still leaves with lots of questions.

Questions such as? If you have fairly specific questions then they are
usually 
answered quite quickly on this list. 

Open-ended requests such as yours, as you've found out for yourself, are

usually ignored.

Honestly it looks as if you're trying to do something beyond your
current 
capabilities and you don't even know where to begin. 

If this is a commercial project just save yourself some grief and pay
someone 
to do it for you.

Otherwise start small. Try the many tutorials that are available on the
web, 
learn about how to connect/retrieve/display information from a database,
how 
to perform user authentication etc. Once you've broadened your knowledge
you 
may be able to see where the pieces fit together and then you can start
your 
project.

-- 
Jason Wong -> Gremlins Associates -> www.gremlins.com.hk
Open Source Software Systems Integrators
* Web Design & Hosting * Internet & Intranet Applications Development *

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Re: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project

2002-11-08 Thread Jason Wong
On Saturday 09 November 2002 04:33, Karl James wrote:
> I have the php bible 4 book but it
> Doesn’t tell you how to do things all the way
> And still leaves with lots of questions.

Questions such as? If you have fairly specific questions then they are usually 
answered quite quickly on this list. 

Open-ended requests such as yours, as you've found out for yourself, are 
usually ignored.

Honestly it looks as if you're trying to do something beyond your current 
capabilities and you don't even know where to begin. 

If this is a commercial project just save yourself some grief and pay someone 
to do it for you.

Otherwise start small. Try the many tutorials that are available on the web, 
learn about how to connect/retrieve/display information from a database, how 
to perform user authentication etc. Once you've broadened your knowledge you 
may be able to see where the pieces fit together and then you can start your 
project.

-- 
Jason Wong -> Gremlins Associates -> www.gremlins.com.hk
Open Source Software Systems Integrators
* Web Design & Hosting * Internet & Intranet Applications Development *

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RE: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project

2002-11-08 Thread Karl James
I have the php bible 4 book but it 
Doesn’t tell you how to do things all the way 
And still leaves with lots of questions.

-Original Message-
From: Charles Wiltgen [mailto:lists@;wiltgen.net] 
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:03 PM
To: List ˆ PHP General
Subject: Re: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project

Karl James wrote...

> Would any want to help me with this please get with me asap I need to
be able
> to talk to you thru the end and make sure I do shit right. I want to
do all
> the work, just need a teacher.

As they say, "Just Do It".  Ask specific, PHP-related questions as you
have
them.  If you don't know anything about using PHP and MySQL, buy one of
the
many fine books available on the subject.  Or, you could just pay
someone
to do it for you.

-- Charles Wiltgen


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Re: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project

2002-11-08 Thread Kevin Myrick
Charles Wiltgen once said...
> many fine books available on the subject
If your looking for a book Karl, I would suggest PHP
Advanced by Larry Ullman.

Very easy to follow, very quick to help you figure out
things.

Takes a small amount of knowledge to learn, probably
should know some programming.

Thought that might help
--- Charles Wiltgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Karl James wrote...
> 
> > Would any want to help me with this please get
> with me asap I need to be able
> > to talk to you thru the end and make sure I do
> shit right. I want to do all
> > the work, just need a teacher.
> 
> As they say, "Just Do It".  Ask specific,
> PHP-related questions as you have
> them.  If you don't know anything about using PHP
> and MySQL, buy one of the
> many fine books available on the subject.  Or, you
> could just pay someone
> to do it for you.
> 
> -- Charles Wiltgen
> 
> 
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Re: [PHP] Need MENTOR for Fantasy football project

2002-11-08 Thread Charles Wiltgen
Karl James wrote...

> Would any want to help me with this please get with me asap I need to be able
> to talk to you thru the end and make sure I do shit right. I want to do all
> the work, just need a teacher.

As they say, "Just Do It".  Ask specific, PHP-related questions as you have
them.  If you don't know anything about using PHP and MySQL, buy one of the
many fine books available on the subject.  Or, you could just pay someone
to do it for you.

-- Charles Wiltgen


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