RE: [PHP] PHP/Ajax Framework - Call for Developers & Testers
From: Raymond Irving > Hi Nathan, > > I agree with you, and I believe that there are many persons > who don't like the idea of hosting all their applications on > a third party server. IMO there are some advantages and > disadvantages to doing so but that's a discussion in itself. Hosted servers are basically a trade off between doing it yourself and paying someone else to do it. The initial choice is between installing your own servers or spend the money to rent servers from someone else. Most of the time it is actually the network bandwidth issue that decides this. Can you afford a network connection that will handle the peak loads but be unused most of the time? But once you decide to pay someone else, you have another set of trade offs to negotiate. What services do they provide? What systems do they offer? How do they manage version control and updates? Are they PCI compliant? There are a wide range of options available in the market. Not all of them will fit your specific needs. We just moved most of our servers from a physical hosting service to a managed service. Where we used to maintain the OS and all software on the server, the new service now handles that for us. The trade off is that now we have to settle for the server package they offer. That means we get the versions of Apache, PHP and PostgreSQL that were included in the last production release of RHEL. If we want a newer version of PHP, we have to take over maintenance of that component. It becomes our responsibility to install the updates, patches, etc., for that component. Once you get beyond a private web site these types of decisions become part of the management process, just as make or buy decisions are part of the hardware procurement process. There are people out there making a good living just guiding companies through this decision making process. Bob McConnell -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP/Ajax Framework - Call for Developers & Testers
Hi Nathan, I agree with you, and I believe that there are many persons who don't like the idea of hosting all their applications on a third party server. IMO there are some advantages and disadvantages to doing so but that's a discussion in itself. The good thing about Raxan's Embeddable Apps is that you have control over the source code. With the ShoutBox example you can download the framwork along with the application and copy it to your own servers. No need to host the apps on third party servers. Some benefits of Raxan Embeddable Apps: 1. Works in just about any web page 2. Easy to deploy and configure 3. Reusable and Shareable I believe that one day we will see apps like Photo Galleries, Media players, File Managers, Catalogs, etc that users can easily download and add to the their web pages. PS. I would like to invite everyone to download the framework, try the examples and take a look at the source code. You will be amaze at what you can do with Raxan PDI. - You can download it here: http://code.google.com/p/raxan/downloads/detail?name=raxan-pdi.1.0.0b2.zip&can=2&q= Best regards __ Raymond Irving --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Nathan Nobbe wrote: From: Nathan Nobbe Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP/Ajax Framework - Call for Developers & Testers To: "Raymond Irving" Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 1:31 PM ive seen lots of third parties selling components in this manor. now that ajax has hit the scene there are some really weird things going on. i was just on a call yesterday where this company told us about their service, which is delivered as one of these 'embedded' applications. this thing would have its own navigation and display of content on our site in order to keep folks clicking. if you ask me, that just feels weird; having some other company like own a piece of your app... however, it would be foolish not to admit that this is the way things are trending and that there will only be more of it to come. -nathan
Re: [PHP] PHP/Ajax Framework - Call for Developers & Testers
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Raymond Irving wrote: > Hi Nathan, > > Many thanks for the feedback. There many other useful features built into > the API but my favorite is the embedded feature. > > You can see a live example here: > http://raxanpdi.com/shoutbox-embedded-example.html > ive seen lots of third parties selling components in this manor. now that ajax has hit the scene there are some really weird things going on. i was just on a call yesterday where this company told us about their service, which is delivered as one of these 'embedded' applications. this thing would have its own navigation and display of content on our site in order to keep folks clicking. if you ask me, that just feels weird; having some other company like own a piece of your app... however, it would be foolish not to admit that this is the way things are trending and that there will only be more of it to come. -nathan
Re: [PHP] PHP/Ajax Framework - Call for Developers & Testers
Hi Nathan, Many thanks for the feedback. There many other useful features built into the API but my favorite is the embedded feature. You can see a live example here: http://raxanpdi.com/shoutbox-embedded-example.html Best regards, __ Raymond Irving --- On Wed, 8/19/09, Nathan Nobbe wrote: From: Nathan Nobbe Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP/Ajax Framework - Call for Developers & Testers To: "Raymond Irving" Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 11:56 AM On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Raymond Irving wrote: > Hello, > > I've just released Raxan Beta 2 with lots for features for both PHP and > Ajax developers. > > I'm looking for persons to help me test and improve the framework. If > you're interested, then please download the framework , join the community > and share your thoughts and ideas. Feel free to send me an email if you have > any questions. > > You can check out the new features here: > http://raxanpdi.com/new-in-beta-2.html you have a neat feature list here Raymond, thanks for sharing. -nathan
Re: [PHP] PHP/Ajax Framework - Call for Developers & Testers
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Raymond Irving wrote: > Hello, > > I've just released Raxan Beta 2 with lots for features for both PHP and > Ajax developers. > > I'm looking for persons to help me test and improve the framework. If > you're interested, then please download the framework , join the community > and share your thoughts and ideas. Feel free to send me an email if you have > any questions. > > You can check out the new features here: > http://raxanpdi.com/new-in-beta-2.html you have a neat feature list here Raymond, thanks for sharing. -nathan
