Re: [PHP] PHP on client-side
the only problem with PHPGTK is that if you make an app with it and you pass it on to your friend they have to have php installed and running on their machine to run your app. I've heard of some people actually running a small installer that installs php on the client machine so that they can run the PHPGTK app.. but that's about all i've heard. It's still in the earily stages of development.. and i would think that in a year or two it will be very well rounded.. - Original Message - From: "Justin Farnsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pavel Jartsev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP on client-side > Re below, I am just curious if anybody on this list > has already written a "significant" application using > PHP/Gtk. I keep looking at Gtk, but it still seems > to be too much shifting sand right now. I want to > use these widgets et al for some applications that > I would normally use Python for. > > The great disadvantage seems, of course, the difficulty > to port/use something in PHP/Gtk for Windows... > > _justin > > Pavel Jartsev wrote: > > > > Tom Malone wrote: > > > > > > I don't think PHP-GTK does that, does it? > > > > >From http://gtk.php.net > > > > Too often PHP is thought of as only an HTML-embedded web scripting > > language. However, it is also a very full-featured > > general purpose language that can be used for much more. One of the > > goals behind this project was to prove that PHP can > > be used to write client-side GUI applications. > > -- > Justin Farnsworth > Eye Integrated Communications > 321 South Evans - Suite 203 > Greenville, NC 27858 | Tel: (252) 353-0722 > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP on client-side
I think one major hurdle with this is that the browser would have to be programmed to parse the Client-Side PHP. While you might have a shot at convincing the nice folks at Mozilla to do this, IE is by far the most used browser and I don't see MS implementing PHP into their browser anytime soon. In addition, can you imagine having to learn to write PHP with browser incompatibilities as bad as JavaScript has? I shudder at the thought. Sheridan Saint-Michel Website Administrator FoxJet, an ITW Company www.foxjet.com - Original Message - From: Tom Malone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: PHP Users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:31 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP on client-side > Do you think it's feasible to do that? Has anyone discussed it before? Are > there any initiatives? > > Tom Malone > Web Designer > http://www.tom-malone.com > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pavel > Jartsev > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:08 AM > To: Tom Malone > Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP on client-side > > > Tom Malone wrote: > > > > I read the introduction to PHP-GTK at http://conf.php.net > > > > What I am talking about is the potential to use PHP in the browser, like > > JavaScript, for functions similar to what JavaScript and VBScript are used > > for. In each tag could be an attribute set to whether the PHP code > contained > > inside is supposed to run at the server or at the client. This is not the > > same thing as PHP-GTK, is it? > > > > Yep, it's not. I misunderstood your question. Sorry. > > -- > Pavel a.k.a. Papi > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] PHP on client-side
It is possible, but you'd need to define the x-application/php or so mimetag in each and every client that you would want to parse the code -- thus reducing the platforms it runs on. The fact that it is parsed on the server allows a great variaty of clients to read it - since they basically get html back. I use php for scripts that run using crontabs on my servers, but I don't really think that PHP is usable in the same way as - for instance - JS or VBS. Jan De Luyck > -Original Message- > From: Tom Malone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 4:32 PM > To: PHP Users > Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP on client-side > > > Do you think it's feasible to do that? Has anyone discussed it > before? Are > there any initiatives? > > Tom Malone > Web Designer > http://www.tom-malone.com > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pavel > Jartsev > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:08 AM > To: Tom Malone > Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP on client-side > > > Tom Malone wrote: > > > > I read the introduction to PHP-GTK at http://conf.php.net > > > > What I am talking about is the potential to use PHP in the browser, like > > JavaScript, for functions similar to what JavaScript and > VBScript are used > > for. In each tag could be an attribute set to whether the PHP code > contained > > inside is supposed to run at the server or at the client. This > is not the > > same thing as PHP-GTK, is it? > > > > Yep, it's not. I misunderstood your question. Sorry. > > -- > Pavel a.k.a. Papi > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] PHP on client-side
Do you think it's feasible to do that? Has anyone discussed it before? Are there any initiatives? Tom Malone Web Designer http://www.tom-malone.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pavel Jartsev Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:08 AM To: Tom Malone Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP on client-side Tom Malone wrote: > > I read the introduction to PHP-GTK at http://conf.php.net > > What I am talking about is the potential to use PHP in the browser, like > JavaScript, for functions similar to what JavaScript and VBScript are used > for. In each tag could be an attribute set to whether the PHP code contained > inside is supposed to run at the server or at the client. This is not the > same thing as PHP-GTK, is it? > Yep, it's not. I misunderstood your question. Sorry. -- Pavel a.k.a. Papi -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP on client-side
Re below, I am just curious if anybody on this list has already written a "significant" application using PHP/Gtk. I keep looking at Gtk, but it still seems to be too much shifting sand right now. I want to use these widgets et al for some applications that I would normally use Python for. The great disadvantage seems, of course, the difficulty to port/use something in PHP/Gtk for Windows... _justin Pavel Jartsev wrote: > > Tom Malone wrote: > > > > I don't think PHP-GTK does that, does it? > > >From http://gtk.php.net > > Too often PHP is thought of as only an HTML-embedded web scripting > language. However, it is also a very full-featured > general purpose language that can be used for much more. One of the > goals behind this project was to prove that PHP can > be used to write client-side GUI applications. -- Justin Farnsworth Eye Integrated Communications 321 South Evans - Suite 203 Greenville, NC 27858 | Tel: (252) 353-0722 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP on client-side
Tom Malone wrote: > > I don't think PHP-GTK does that, does it? >From http://gtk.php.net Too often PHP is thought of as only an HTML-embedded web scripting language. However, it is also a very full-featured general purpose language that can be used for much more. One of the goals behind this project was to prove that PHP can be used to write client-side GUI applications. -- Pavel a.k.a. Papi -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] PHP on client-side
I don't think PHP-GTK does that, does it? Tom Malone Web Designer http://www.tom-malone.com -Original Message- From: Bruin, Bolke de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 8:22 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; PHP Users Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP on client-side Euhum what about PHPGTK? Bolke -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Tom Malone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:13 PM Aan: PHP Users Onderwerp: [PHP] PHP on client-side Wouldn't it be nice if there was a way develop client-side (browser-based) applications for PHP? I see so many posts about using PHP to interact with JavaScript - wouldn't it be cool if you could just tell your PHP code where to run - server or client (similar to what ASP does with VBScript)? I know I can't be the first person to think about this, but I've searched and can't find anything about it. Any ideas/suggestions/resources? Tom Malone Web Designer http://www.tom-malone.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] PHP on client-side
Euhum what about PHPGTK? Bolke -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Tom Malone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:13 PM Aan: PHP Users Onderwerp: [PHP] PHP on client-side Wouldn't it be nice if there was a way develop client-side (browser-based) applications for PHP? I see so many posts about using PHP to interact with JavaScript - wouldn't it be cool if you could just tell your PHP code where to run - server or client (similar to what ASP does with VBScript)? I know I can't be the first person to think about this, but I've searched and can't find anything about it. Any ideas/suggestions/resources? Tom Malone Web Designer http://www.tom-malone.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
