Re: [PHP] Just to prove my point (used to be - Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list)

2007-05-19 Thread Stut

Jim Lucas wrote:

PHP Developer wrote:
some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the 
questions It opens a new topic on the list and that's not appropriate 
. Thank ya


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Clients that rely on the subject to determine if it a new thread are 
broken.


In fact, if you looked the headers of your email you will see a line 
like this


message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

my client takes that line and make a reference to it like this.

references: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

it will also create a new message-id: line.  something like this.

message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

if anybody replies to my message, the process is repeated.

Real, non-broken, email clients rely on the above lines to determine how 
messages belong to one another.   Again, it has nothing to do with the 
subject line.  Look at the subject line of this message.


As always it's not quite that simple. The problem is that there are no 
hard and fast rules regarding mail headers, so when threading you can't 
guarantee anything.


The standard, or accepted reference algorithm for threading emails can 
be found at http://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html and is, I believe, 
still used in a large number of clients including Thunderbird. Gmail 
almost certainly uses their own concoction, but it probably follows 
similar rules.


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Re: [PHP] Just to prove my point (used to be - Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list)

2007-05-19 Thread Stut

Tijnema wrote:

Anyway, it works a lot better than Megasoft Outlook or such, they
don't group anything...


By default, no. But you can organise messages by thread. I don't like 
the way they display it, but I wish people would get their facts 
straight before passing comment on the easy target.


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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

PHP Developer wrote:
some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the questions It opens a new topic on the list and that's not appropriate . 
Thank ya
  




Any email client that uses the presence or absence of a Re: header to 
decide if posts are related is severely broken.


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 12:22 -0700, PHP Developer wrote:
 some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the questions It 
 opens a new topic on the list and that's not appropriate . 
 Thank ya

Sounds like you should use a different client... or stop whining. I
noticed your email client didn't wrap your comment to 70 characters (or
whatever is suggested in netiquette). Pot! Meet kettle!

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Greg Donald

On 5/18/07, PHP Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the questions It 
opens a
new topic on the list and that's not appropriate .
Thank ya


Some people do not correctly capitalize and punctuate their sentences
while posting on this list.  I demand that you refrain from such crass
behavior as it is terribly bothersome to my pedantic lifestyle.

Thank you,


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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Jason Pruim

THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS TOP POST AND ALWAYS TYPE IN CAPS. :)


On May 18, 2007, at 3:35 PM, Greg Donald wrote:


On 5/18/07, PHP Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the  
questions It opens a

new topic on the list and that's not appropriate .
Thank ya


Some people do not correctly capitalize and punctuate their sentences
while posting on this list.  I demand that you refrain from such crass
behavior as it is terribly bothersome to my pedantic lifestyle.

Thank you,


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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

Danial Rahmanzadeh wrote:

hey,
I use Gmail but i have the same problem.




Whoever said Gmail was a good mail client?!

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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Greg Donald

On 5/18/07, Roger B.A. Klorese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Whoever said Gmail was a good mail client?!


I give up, who?


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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Tijnema !

On 5/18/07, Roger B.A. Klorese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Danial Rahmanzadeh wrote:
 hey,
 I use Gmail but i have the same problem.


I use gmail too, and the messages are grouped nicely, I don't see any problem.




Whoever said Gmail was a good mail client?!


I do :)

Tijnema



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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 14:35 -0500, Greg Donald wrote:
 On 5/18/07, PHP Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the questions 
  It opens a
  new topic on the list and that's not appropriate .
  Thank ya
 
 Some people do not correctly capitalize and punctuate their sentences
 while posting on this list.  I demand that you refrain from such crass
 behavior as it is terribly bothersome to my pedantic lifestyle.

bAH? quit. whining, you silly: ass cant we all Just -- get along,

 Thank you,

Your welcome;

:)

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 14:43 -0500, Greg Donald wrote:
 On 5/18/07, Roger B.A. Klorese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Whoever said Gmail was a good mail client?!
 
 I give up, who?

Tijnema!

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Tijnema !

On 5/18/07, Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/18/07, Roger B.A. Klorese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Whoever said Gmail was a good mail client?!

I give up, who?



I do, it works great. No slow POP3 or such shit.
I use web interface 24/7, web chat on the fly, messages are grouped,
everything i need (headers etc) is showed when needed.
Also, IP Addresses are not send with the mail, and that makes it also
more anonymous.

Tijnema

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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Greg Donald

On 5/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 14:43 -0500, Greg Donald wrote:
 On 5/18/07, Roger B.A. Klorese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Whoever said Gmail was a good mail client?!

 I give up, who?

Tijnema!



Is that like Yahoo! ?  Or do people always yell his/her name?


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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Danial Rahmanzadeh

plus 2853 mb FREE storage


Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Tijnema !

On 5/18/07, Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 14:43 -0500, Greg Donald wrote:
  On 5/18/07, Roger B.A. Klorese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Whoever said Gmail was a good mail client?!
 
  I give up, who?

 Tijnema!


Is that like Yahoo! ?  Or do people always yell his/her name?


Hmm, what else to put as last name?
I chose !, could be something else too, you got better idea?

Tijnema No ! here :P

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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Tijnema !

On 5/18/07, Danial Rahmanzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

plus 2853 mb FREE storage


2853.822438 now, to be exact :)

O wait, since I copied the amount of MB, it has changed already, it is
 2853.822762 now :)

Tijnema

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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 22:08 +0200, Tijnema ! wrote:
 On 5/18/07, Danial Rahmanzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  plus 2853 mb FREE storage
 
 2853.822438 now, to be exact :)
 
 O wait, since I copied the amount of MB, it has changed already, it is
   2853.822762 now :)

Anyone know if gmailFs supports RAID across multiple accounts? :)

Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Edward Vermillion


On May 18, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:


On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 14:35 -0500, Greg Donald wrote:

On 5/18/07, PHP Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the  
questions It opens a

new topic on the list and that's not appropriate .
Thank ya


Some people do not correctly capitalize and punctuate their sentences
while posting on this list.  I demand that you refrain from such  
crass

behavior as it is terribly bothersome to my pedantic lifestyle.


bAH? quit. whining, you silly: ass cant we all Just -- get along,



Capt'n Kirk? Is that you?

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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner

Tijnema ! wrote:

2853.822438 now, to be exact :)

O wait, since I copied the amount of MB, it has changed already, it is
 2853.822762 now :)

Tijnema
   Do you suppose they have little people running around the data 
center every day, shutting down machines, adding a hard drive or two, 
and put it back online?  Go home, come back tomorrow and do it again?  
:)  And let's not forget the night crew that installs new machines, but 
with only 1 drive in them, just so the day crew has something to do when 
they come in...   *smirk*


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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Jason Pruim


On May 18, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:


On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 22:08 +0200, Tijnema ! wrote:

On 5/18/07, Danial Rahmanzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

plus 2853 mb FREE storage


2853.822438 now, to be exact :)

O wait, since I copied the amount of MB, it has changed already,  
it is

  2853.822762 now :)


Anyone know if gmailFs supports RAID across multiple accounts? :)

Cheers,
Rob.


Only on the deluxe accounts... the rest of the people who can't  
afford them have to settle for using gerbils to move the info around  
between accounts ;)



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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 15:16 -0500, Edward Vermillion wrote:
 On May 18, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:
 
  On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 14:35 -0500, Greg Donald wrote:
  On 5/18/07, PHP Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the  
  questions It opens a
  new topic on the list and that's not appropriate .
  Thank ya
 
  Some people do not correctly capitalize and punctuate their sentences
  while posting on this list.  I demand that you refrain from such  
  crass
  behavior as it is terribly bothersome to my pedantic lifestyle.
 
  bAH? quit. whining, you silly: ass cant we all Just -- get along,
 
 
 Capt'n Kirk? Is that you?

Scotty??

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 16:23 -0400, Jason Pruim wrote:
 On May 18, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:
 
  On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 22:08 +0200, Tijnema ! wrote:
  On 5/18/07, Danial Rahmanzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  plus 2853 mb FREE storage
 
  2853.822438 now, to be exact :)
 
  O wait, since I copied the amount of MB, it has changed already,  
  it is
2853.822762 now :)
 
  Anyone know if gmailFs supports RAID across multiple accounts? :)
 
  Cheers,
  Rob.
 
 Only on the deluxe accounts... the rest of the people who can't  
 afford them have to settle for using gerbils to move the info around  
 between accounts ;)

Thought that was Hotmail... and the reason accounts were deleted after a
few months of inactivity was because the gerbil died :/ Anyone ever see
the aftermath of 2 starving gerbils in a cage?

One not so starving gerbil -- and a mess.

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Greg Donald

On 5/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone know if gmailFs supports RAID across multiple accounts? :)


ROFL.


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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Tijnema !

On 5/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 22:08 +0200, Tijnema ! wrote:
 On 5/18/07, Danial Rahmanzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  plus 2853 mb FREE storage
 
 2853.822438 now, to be exact :)

 O wait, since I copied the amount of MB, it has changed already, it is
   2853.822762 now :)

Anyone know if gmailFs supports RAID across multiple accounts? :)

Cheers,
Rob.
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Actually, I've seen a program that actually could use multiple
accounts (unlimited), and so you could create an unlimited size disk,
but unfortunately you won't get better speed when using RAID... :P
Unless you have 3Gbit DSL line, you have slower speeds then using a
normal hard drive, so it sucks. But who cares? Gmail is for mail, not
for data :P

Tijnema

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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Daniel Brown

On 5/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 22:08 +0200, Tijnema ! wrote:
 On 5/18/07, Danial Rahmanzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  plus 2853 mb FREE storage
 
 2853.822438 now, to be exact :)

 O wait, since I copied the amount of MB, it has changed already, it is
   2853.822762 now :)

Anyone know if gmailFs supports RAID across multiple accounts? :)

Cheers,
Rob.
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   Man, I hope it's in the works soon because I'm sick and friggin'
tired of dealing with having to switch between accounts to keep up with my
43TB of SPAM and midget/donkey porn.  A nice 0+1/5 RAID stripe across
accounts from the 98 remaining invites I have, coupled with Google's
upcoming free WiFi, may just be enough to REALLY pleasure myself

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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 16:35 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
 On 5/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 22:08 +0200, Tijnema ! wrote:
  On 5/18/07, Danial Rahmanzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   plus 2853 mb FREE storage
  
  2853.822438 now, to be exact :)
 
  O wait, since I copied the amount of MB, it has changed
 already, it is
2853.822762 now :)
 
 Anyone know if gmailFs supports RAID across multiple accounts?
 :) 
 
 Cheers,
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 Man, I hope it's in the works soon because I'm sick and
 friggin' tired of dealing with having to switch between accounts to
 keep up with my 43TB of SPAM and midget/donkey porn.

We need to talk. CALL ME!!! 613-DON-K-PRN!

;)

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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 22:27 +0200, Tijnema ! wrote:
 On 5/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 22:08 +0200, Tijnema ! wrote:
   On 5/18/07, Danial Rahmanzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
plus 2853 mb FREE storage
   
   2853.822438 now, to be exact :)
  
   O wait, since I copied the amount of MB, it has changed already, it is
 2853.822762 now :)
 
  Anyone know if gmailFs supports RAID across multiple accounts? :)
 
  Cheers,
  Rob.
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 Actually, I've seen a program that actually could use multiple
 accounts (unlimited), and so you could create an unlimited size disk,
 but unfortunately you won't get better speed when using RAID... :P
 Unless you have 3Gbit DSL line, you have slower speeds then using a
 normal hard drive, so it sucks. But who cares? Gmail is for mail, not
 for data :P

That would depend on whether Google throttles download speed of message
packets. If it throttles on any given request, then making multiple
asynchronous requests for striped data would improve your download
speed.

But of course, it would never be as fast as a local hard drive. That's
why Dan just wants to backup his midget and donkey pr0n ;)

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Daniel Brown

On 5/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 22:27 +0200, Tijnema ! wrote:
 On 5/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 22:08 +0200, Tijnema ! wrote:
   On 5/18/07, Danial Rahmanzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
plus 2853 mb FREE storage
   
   2853.822438 now, to be exact :)
  
   O wait, since I copied the amount of MB, it has changed already, it
is
 2853.822762 now :)
 
  Anyone know if gmailFs supports RAID across multiple accounts? :)
 
  Cheers,
  Rob.
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 Actually, I've seen a program that actually could use multiple
 accounts (unlimited), and so you could create an unlimited size disk,
 but unfortunately you won't get better speed when using RAID... :P
 Unless you have 3Gbit DSL line, you have slower speeds then using a
 normal hard drive, so it sucks. But who cares? Gmail is for mail, not
 for data :P

That would depend on whether Google throttles download speed of message
packets. If it throttles on any given request, then making multiple
asynchronous requests for striped data would improve your download
speed.

But of course, it would never be as fast as a local hard drive. That's
why Dan just wants to backup his midget and donkey pr0n ;)

Cheers,
Rob.
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Parse Error: Unexpected T_DONKEY on line 69.

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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 16:47 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
 On 5/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 22:27 +0200, Tijnema ! wrote:
   On 5/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 22:08 +0200, Tijnema ! wrote:
 On 5/18/07, Danial Rahmanzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  plus 2853 mb FREE storage
 
 2853.822438 now, to be exact :)

 O wait, since I copied the amount of MB, it has changed already, it
  is
   2853.822762 now :)
   
Anyone know if gmailFs supports RAID across multiple accounts? :)
   
Cheers,
Rob.
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   accounts (unlimited), and so you could create an unlimited size disk,
   but unfortunately you won't get better speed when using RAID... :P
   Unless you have 3Gbit DSL line, you have slower speeds then using a
   normal hard drive, so it sucks. But who cares? Gmail is for mail, not
   for data :P
 
  That would depend on whether Google throttles download speed of message
  packets. If it throttles on any given request, then making multiple
  asynchronous requests for striped data would improve your download
  speed.
 
  But of course, it would never be as fast as a local hard drive. That's
  why Dan just wants to backup his midget and donkey pr0n ;)
 
 
 Parse Error: Unexpected T_DONKEY on line 69.

Is that an E_RECOVERABLE in PHP5?

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Daniel Brown

On 5/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 16:47 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
 On 5/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 22:27 +0200, Tijnema ! wrote:
   On 5/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 22:08 +0200, Tijnema ! wrote:
 On 5/18/07, Danial Rahmanzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  plus 2853 mb FREE storage
 
 2853.822438 now, to be exact :)

 O wait, since I copied the amount of MB, it has changed already,
it
  is
   2853.822762 now :)
   
Anyone know if gmailFs supports RAID across multiple accounts? :)
   
Cheers,
Rob.
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   Actually, I've seen a program that actually could use multiple
   accounts (unlimited), and so you could create an unlimited size
disk,
   but unfortunately you won't get better speed when using RAID... :P
   Unless you have 3Gbit DSL line, you have slower speeds then using a
   normal hard drive, so it sucks. But who cares? Gmail is for mail,
not
   for data :P
 
  That would depend on whether Google throttles download speed of
message
  packets. If it throttles on any given request, then making multiple
  asynchronous requests for striped data would improve your download
  speed.
 
  But of course, it would never be as fast as a local hard drive. That's
  why Dan just wants to backup his midget and donkey pr0n ;)
 

 Parse Error: Unexpected T_DONKEY on line 69.

Is that an E_RECOVERABLE in PHP5?

Cheers,
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variables_order = OHCRAP

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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Tijnema

On 5/18/07, Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 14:43 -0500, Greg Donald wrote:
  On 5/18/07, Roger B.A. Klorese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Whoever said Gmail was a good mail client?!
 
  I give up, who?

 Tijnema!


Is that like Yahoo! ?  Or do people always yell his/her name?


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I changed it to Tijnema, you happy now ?? :P:P

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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Danbrown !



I changed it to Tijnema, you happy now ?? :P:P

Tijnema



   Yes.  Names with exclamation points are dumb.  ;-P

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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Tijnema

On 5/18/07, Danbrown ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 I changed it to Tijnema, you happy now ?? :P:P

 Tijnema



Yes.  Names with exclamation points are dumb.  ;-P


What a nice name do you have right now :-)

I like it ;)

Tijnema



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RE: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
...some really funny and other not so funny stuff
[/snip]

It Must Be Friday [tm]

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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Tijnema

On 5/18/07, Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]
...some really funny and other not so funny stuff
[/snip]

It Must Be Friday [tm]



For some people it is, and for it isn't anymore :-P

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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Danbrown !

On 5/18/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 5/18/07, Danbrown ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  I changed it to Tijnema, you happy now ?? :P:P
 
  Tijnema
 
 

 Yes.  Names with exclamation points are dumb.  ;-P

What a nice name do you have right now :-)

I like it ;)

Tijnema


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   I just have to say you can tell it's Friday by everyone's messages
today.  And here's what I say:

?
function sighRelief() {
   $key[] = 45,7,0,13,10;
   $key[] = 5,20,2,10,8,13,6;
   $key[] = 32,14,3;
   $lock =
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ1234567890;
   for($i=0;$icount($key);$i++) {
   $l = explode(',',$key[$i]);
   for($j=0;$jcount($l);$j++) {
   $k .= $lock[$l[$j]];
   }
   if($i  (count($key) - 1)) {
   $k .=  ;
   } else {
   $k .= !;
   }
   }
   return $k;
}
?

   Have a great weekend!


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[PHP] Just to prove my point (used to be - Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list)

2007-05-18 Thread Jim Lucas

PHP Developer wrote:
some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the questions It opens a new topic on the list and that's not appropriate . 
Thank ya


   
-

Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.
 Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. 


Clients that rely on the subject to determine if it a new thread are broken.

In fact, if you looked the headers of your email you will see a line like this

message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

my client takes that line and make a reference to it like this.

references: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

it will also create a new message-id: line.  something like this.

message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

if anybody replies to my message, the process is repeated.

Real, non-broken, email clients rely on the above lines to determine how messages belong to one 
another.   Again, it has nothing to do with the subject line.  Look at the subject line of this message.


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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Daniel Brown

On 5/18/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 5/18/07, Danbrown ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/18/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On 5/18/07, Danbrown ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
I changed it to Tijnema, you happy now ?? :P:P
   
Tijnema
   
   
  
   Yes.  Names with exclamation points are dumb.  ;-P
 
  What a nice name do you have right now :-)
 
  I like it ;)
 
  Tijnema
  
  
   --
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   [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272
   [mobile] (570-) 766-8107
 

 I just have to say you can tell it's Friday by everyone's
messages
 today.  And here's what I say:

 ?
 function sighRelief() {
 $key[] = 45,7,0,13,10;
 $key[] = 5,20,2,10,8,13,6;
 $key[] = 32,14,3;
 $lock =
 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ1234567890;
 for($i=0;$icount($key);$i++) {
 $l = explode(',',$key[$i]);
 for($j=0;$jcount($l);$j++) {
 $k .= $lock[$l[$j]];
 }
 if($i  (count($key) - 1)) {
 $k .=  ;
 } else {
 $k .= !;
 }
 }
 return $k;
 }
 ?

 Have a great weekend!

or you could write it like this

?
function sighRelief() {
return Thank fucking God!;
}
?

Saves you some time, and resources :)

and btw, it's saturday here now :)

Tijnema



   Isn't it past your bedtime?  ;-P

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Re: [PHP] Just to prove my point (used to be - Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list)

2007-05-18 Thread Tijnema

On 5/19/07, Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

PHP Developer wrote:
 some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the questions It 
opens a new topic on the list and that's not appropriate .
 Thank ya


 -
 Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.
  Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.

Clients that rely on the subject to determine if it a new thread are broken.

In fact, if you looked the headers of your email you will see a line like this

message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

my client takes that line and make a reference to it like this.

references: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

it will also create a new message-id: line.  something like this.

message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

if anybody replies to my message, the process is repeated.

Real, non-broken, email clients rely on the above lines to determine how 
messages belong to one
another.   Again, it has nothing to do with the subject line.  Look at the 
subject line of this message.

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Gmail does break your message now :(

Just leave that damn title Re doesn't matter :)

Tijnema

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Re: [PHP] Just to prove my point (used to be - Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list)

2007-05-18 Thread Jim Lucas

Jim Lucas wrote:

PHP Developer wrote:
some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the 
questions It opens a new topic on the list and that's not appropriate 
. Thank ya


   -
Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.
 Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. 


Clients that rely on the subject to determine if it a new thread are 
broken.


In fact, if you looked the headers of your email you will see a line 
like this


message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

my client takes that line and make a reference to it like this.

references: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

it will also create a new message-id: line.  something like this.

message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

if anybody replies to my message, the process is repeated.

Real, non-broken, email clients rely on the above lines to determine how 
messages belong to one another.   Again, it has nothing to do with the 
subject line.  Look at the subject line of this message.




If the email client started a new thread for my last message, then your email 
client broken.

Sounds like a Jeff Foxworthy joke...

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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Tijnema

On 5/19/07, Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On 5/18/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/18/07, Danbrown ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 5/18/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On 5/18/07, Danbrown !  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

 I changed it to Tijnema, you happy now ?? :P:P

 Tijnema


   
Yes.  Names with exclamation points are dumb.  ;-P
  
   What a nice name do you have right now :-)
  
   I like it ;)
  
   Tijnema
   
   
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[office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272
[mobile] (570-) 766-8107
  
 
  I just have to say you can tell it's Friday by everyone's
messages
  today.  And here's what I say:
 
  ?
  function sighRelief() {
  $key[] = 45,7,0,13,10;
  $key[] = 5,20,2,10,8,13,6;
  $key[] = 32,14,3;
  $lock =
 
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ1234567890;
  for($i=0;$icount($key);$i++) {
  $l = explode(',',$key[$i]);
  for($j=0;$jcount($l);$j++) {
  $k .= $lock[$l[$j]];
  }
  if($i  (count($key) - 1)) {
  $k .=  ;
  } else {
  $k .= !;
  }
  }
  return $k;
  }
  ?
 
  Have a great weekend!

 or you could write it like this

 ?
 function sighRelief() {
 return Thank fucking God!;
 }
 ?

 Saves you some time, and resources :)

 and btw, it's saturday here now :)

 Tijnema


Isn't it past your bedtime?  ;-P


Sure it is, but what does it matter? Everybody else in the house
sleeps, so who tells me to go to bed?

Tijnema


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Re: [PHP] Just to prove my point (used to be - Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list)

2007-05-18 Thread Tijnema

On 5/19/07, Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jim Lucas wrote:
 PHP Developer wrote:
 some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the
 questions It opens a new topic on the list and that's not appropriate
 . Thank ya

-
 Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.
  Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.

 Clients that rely on the subject to determine if it a new thread are
 broken.

 In fact, if you looked the headers of your email you will see a line
 like this

 message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 my client takes that line and make a reference to it like this.

 references: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 it will also create a new message-id: line.  something like this.

 message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 if anybody replies to my message, the process is repeated.

 Real, non-broken, email clients rely on the above lines to determine how
 messages belong to one another.   Again, it has nothing to do with the
 subject line.  Look at the subject line of this message.


If the email client started a new thread for my last message, then your email 
client broken.

   Sounds like a Jeff Foxworthy joke...

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Ok, so gmail is broken, lets spam google :)

Tijnema

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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Richard S. Crawford
On Friday 18 May 2007 15:25:35 Tijnema wrote:
 ?
 function sighRelief() {
  return Thank fucking God!;
 }
 ?

 Saves you some time, and resources

Yeah, but where's the fun in that?

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Re: [PHP] Just to prove my point (used to be - Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list)

2007-05-18 Thread Jim Lucas

Tijnema wrote:

On 5/19/07, Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jim Lucas wrote:
 PHP Developer wrote:
 some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the
 questions It opens a new topic on the list and that's not appropriate
 . Thank ya

-
 Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your 
story.

  Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.

 Clients that rely on the subject to determine if it a new thread are
 broken.

 In fact, if you looked the headers of your email you will see a line
 like this

 message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 my client takes that line and make a reference to it like this.

 references: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 it will also create a new message-id: line.  something like this.

 message-id: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 if anybody replies to my message, the process is repeated.

 Real, non-broken, email clients rely on the above lines to determine 
how

 messages belong to one another.   Again, it has nothing to do with the
 subject line.  Look at the subject line of this message.


If the email client started a new thread for my last message, then 
your email client broken.


   Sounds like a Jeff Foxworthy joke...

--
Jim Lucas


Ok, so gmail is broken, lets spam google :)

Tijnema


Google doesn't deserve to get spammed, GMail is a great client.  I use it 
myself for personal mail.
They just need to fix the algorithm that determines what is a continued thread and what is a new 
message.


Mostly what happens to my GMail account, is that it groups messages together, that truly have 
nothing to do with each other.


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Re: [PHP] Just to prove my point (used to be - Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list)

2007-05-18 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner

Jim Lucas wrote:
Mostly what happens to my GMail account, is that it groups messages 
together, that truly have nothing to do with each other.
   Now THIS is what I would consider fantastic, loads of fun...  Have 
they trademarked it yet?


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Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Tijnema

On 5/19/07, Richard S. Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Friday 18 May 2007 15:25:35 Tijnema wrote:
 ?
 function sighRelief() {
 return Thank fucking God!;
 }
 ?

 Saves you some time, and resources

Yeah, but where's the fun in that?


Oh yeah, it saves you also the fun. Let me say it again.
Saves you some time, resources and fun.  :-)

Tijnema


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Re: [PHP] Just to prove my point (used to be - Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list)

2007-05-18 Thread Tijnema

On 5/19/07, Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Tijnema wrote:
 On 5/19/07, Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jim Lucas wrote:
  PHP Developer wrote:
  some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the
  questions It opens a new topic on the list and that's not appropriate
  . Thank ya
 
 -
  Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
 story.
   Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
 
  Clients that rely on the subject to determine if it a new thread are
  broken.
 
  In fact, if you looked the headers of your email you will see a line
  like this
 
  message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  my client takes that line and make a reference to it like this.
 
  references: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  it will also create a new message-id: line.  something like this.
 
  message-id:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  if anybody replies to my message, the process is repeated.
 
  Real, non-broken, email clients rely on the above lines to determine
 how
  messages belong to one another.   Again, it has nothing to do with the
  subject line.  Look at the subject line of this message.
 

 If the email client started a new thread for my last message, then
 your email client broken.

Sounds like a Jeff Foxworthy joke...

 --
 Jim Lucas

 Ok, so gmail is broken, lets spam google :)

 Tijnema

Google doesn't deserve to get spammed, GMail is a great client.  I use it 
myself for personal mail.
They just need to fix the algorithm that determines what is a continued thread 
and what is a new
message.

Mostly what happens to my GMail account, is that it groups messages together, 
that truly have
nothing to do with each other.


Never had any problems like that, only that it doesn't continue with
the old one.
Anyway, it works a lot better than Megasoft Outlook or such, they
don't group anything...

Tijnema


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Re: [PHP] Just to prove my point (used to be - Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list)

2007-05-18 Thread Jim Lucas

Tijnema wrote:

On 5/19/07, Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Tijnema wrote:
 On 5/19/07, Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jim Lucas wrote:
  PHP Developer wrote:
  some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the
  questions It opens a new topic on the list and that's not 
appropriate

  . Thank ya
 
 -
  Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
 story.
   Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
 
  Clients that rely on the subject to determine if it a new thread are
  broken.
 
  In fact, if you looked the headers of your email you will see a line
  like this
 
  message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  my client takes that line and make a reference to it like this.
 
  references: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  it will also create a new message-id: line.  something like this.
 
  message-id:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  if anybody replies to my message, the process is repeated.
 
  Real, non-broken, email clients rely on the above lines to determine
 how
  messages belong to one another.   Again, it has nothing to do 
with the

  subject line.  Look at the subject line of this message.
 

 If the email client started a new thread for my last message, then
 your email client broken.

Sounds like a Jeff Foxworthy joke...

 --
 Jim Lucas

 Ok, so gmail is broken, lets spam google :)

 Tijnema

Google doesn't deserve to get spammed, GMail is a great client.  I use 
it myself for personal mail.
They just need to fix the algorithm that determines what is a 
continued thread and what is a new

message.

Mostly what happens to my GMail account, is that it groups messages 
together, that truly have

nothing to do with each other.


Never had any problems like that, only that it doesn't continue with
the old one.
Anyway, it works a lot better than Megasoft Outlook or such, they
don't group anything...

Tijnema


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   and some have greatness thrust upon them.

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I recommend Thunderbird.  Never had one problem with it.

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   Some men are born to greatness, some achieve greatness,
   and some have greatness thrust upon them.

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Re: [PHP] Just to prove my point (used to be - Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list)

2007-05-18 Thread Tijnema

On 5/19/07, Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Tijnema wrote:
 On 5/19/07, Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tijnema wrote:
  On 5/19/07, Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Jim Lucas wrote:
   PHP Developer wrote:
   some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the
   questions It opens a new topic on the list and that's not
 appropriate
   . Thank ya
  
  -
   Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
  story.
Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
  
   Clients that rely on the subject to determine if it a new thread are
   broken.
  
   In fact, if you looked the headers of your email you will see a line
   like this
  
   message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   my client takes that line and make a reference to it like this.
  
   references: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   it will also create a new message-id: line.  something like this.
  
   message-id:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   if anybody replies to my message, the process is repeated.
  
   Real, non-broken, email clients rely on the above lines to determine
  how
   messages belong to one another.   Again, it has nothing to do
 with the
   subject line.  Look at the subject line of this message.
  
 
  If the email client started a new thread for my last message, then
  your email client broken.
 
 Sounds like a Jeff Foxworthy joke...
 
  --
  Jim Lucas
 
  Ok, so gmail is broken, lets spam google :)
 
  Tijnema

 Google doesn't deserve to get spammed, GMail is a great client.  I use
 it myself for personal mail.
 They just need to fix the algorithm that determines what is a
 continued thread and what is a new
 message.

 Mostly what happens to my GMail account, is that it groups messages
 together, that truly have
 nothing to do with each other.

 Never had any problems like that, only that it doesn't continue with
 the old one.
 Anyway, it works a lot better than Megasoft Outlook or such, they
 don't group anything...

 Tijnema

 --
 Jim Lucas

Some men are born to greatness, some achieve greatness,
and some have greatness thrust upon them.

 Unknown


I recommend Thunderbird.  Never had one problem with it.

--
Jim Lucas


Is there something like web thunderbird? I really need a web based
mail client...

Tijnema

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RE: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list

2007-05-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 16:42 -0500, Jay Blanchard wrote:
 [snip]
 ...some really funny and other not so funny stuff
 [/snip]
 
 It Must Be Friday [tm]

We're implementing a new system to help lighten up the list. It's called
Casual Post Fridays (tm), where posts can be loosely, or quite
possibly not all, related to PHP.

So send in your questions about CSS, HTML, and of course the timeless
classic -- Donkeys!

:)

Cheers,
Rob.
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