Re: Future of php-shell

2012-12-20 Thread John Bessa
The "better circles" seem to prefer mercurial, which, I believe is more
python-oriented, which is closer to perl.  I like recursion, and PHP seemed
to fail when I used it like a "find" command in many different ways, and I
know that perl does it very well (will have to check windows).  Php shell
may ultimately be the easiest way to do posix-type work on windows.

I have a google docs replacement working (with TinyMCE in a tiny php script
on oddmuse) that is actually far better than the old or new google docs,
and can easily be integrated with Mobwrite to prevent edit collisions.
 Mobwrite has a python server, and I am thinking mobwrite is where the file
control should happen including document versioning and maybe google drive
could be integrated for free disk space (and mercurial is the
python preference).

The main advantage of TinyMCE is that one can ctl-V paste from the snipping
tool (on firefox), and the image is embedded into the document.



On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Jan Kanis  wrote:

> @John: Good luck building a google docs replacement.
>
> OT:
> - I think mercurial or git are both much better than svn. I prefer
> mercurial and in fact use that to interface to the sourceforge svn server.
> But if git has more traction among PHP developers, as it apparently does,
> that would probably be a better option. I am in favor of upgrading to
> either of those, but like I said, I don't have a lot of time to put into
> phpshell.
> - Sourceforge also has a wiki, but it requires upgrading the project to a
> new sourceforge version. It appears to be just one click. Is anyone against
> me pressing the 'upgrade' button?
>
>
> On 20 December 2012 16:03, John Bessa  wrote:
>
>> I had a 10 yr lapse of tech after the y2k tech crash til recently, when I
>> started doing a massive documenting (social-psych) and google docs failed
>> us -- so I am not familiar with SVN, GIT, etc.
>>
>> However, I am planning a search engine for my google docs replacement
>> (GDR) which will put it on higher ground, and SHOULD be in git, or
>> something, so I should get interested -- GIT seems the to be most popular.
>>
>> Also I am experimenting with Perl inside PHP which may be helpful for
>> WIndows vs. Posix conflicts.  I am formerly linux, but now support a native
>> L4 w/o any linux that explores a new paradigm for both driver support and
>> VM management, web servers being a kind of VM.
>>
>> I am not pleased w/ Wikipedia, but believe that wiki is nearly the only
>> way to go if one supports a constructive web, as I do.  So, I guess I am
>> suggesting, that php shell go into GIT and discussion be on a wiki,
>> independent or through wiki media foundation.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Jan Kanis  wrote:
>>
>>> I thought the svn version has a file upload capability (but maybe it
>>> needs to be enabled in the config file). A 'save and continue editing'
>>> option for the editor would be a good addition, but I'm not currently
>>> working a lot on phpshell, and I don't currently have time for it.
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>>
>>
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Fwd: Future of php-shell

2012-12-20 Thread Jan Kanis
@John: Good luck building a google docs replacement.

OT:
- I think mercurial or git are both much better than svn. I prefer
mercurial and in fact use that to interface to the sourceforge svn server.
But if git has more traction among PHP developers, as it apparently does,
that would probably be a better option. I am in favor of upgrading to
either of those, but like I said, I don't have a lot of time to put into
phpshell.
- Sourceforge also has a wiki, but it requires upgrading the project to a
new sourceforge version. It appears to be just one click. Is anyone against
me pressing the 'upgrade' button?


On 20 December 2012 16:03, John Bessa  wrote:

> I had a 10 yr lapse of tech after the y2k tech crash til recently, when I
> started doing a massive documenting (social-psych) and google docs failed
> us -- so I am not familiar with SVN, GIT, etc.
>
> However, I am planning a search engine for my google docs replacement
> (GDR) which will put it on higher ground, and SHOULD be in git, or
> something, so I should get interested -- GIT seems the to be most popular.
>
> Also I am experimenting with Perl inside PHP which may be helpful for
> WIndows vs. Posix conflicts.  I am formerly linux, but now support a native
> L4 w/o any linux that explores a new paradigm for both driver support and
> VM management, web servers being a kind of VM.
>
> I am not pleased w/ Wikipedia, but believe that wiki is nearly the only
> way to go if one supports a constructive web, as I do.  So, I guess I am
> suggesting, that php shell go into GIT and discussion be on a wiki,
> independent or through wiki media foundation.
>
> What do you think?
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Jan Kanis  wrote:
>
>> I thought the svn version has a file upload capability (but maybe it
>> needs to be enabled in the config file). A 'save and continue editing'
>> option for the editor would be a good addition, but I'm not currently
>> working a lot on phpshell, and I don't currently have time for it.
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>
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Future of php-shell

2012-12-20 Thread John Bessa
I had a 10 yr lapse of tech after the y2k tech crash til recently, when I
started doing a massive documenting (social-psych) and google docs failed
us -- so I am not familiar with SVN, GIT, etc.

However, I am planning a search engine for my google docs replacement (GDR)
which will put it on higher ground, and SHOULD be in git, or something, so
I should get interested -- GIT seems the to be most popular.

Also I am experimenting with Perl inside PHP which may be helpful for
WIndows vs. Posix conflicts.  I am formerly linux, but now support a native
L4 w/o any linux that explores a new paradigm for both driver support and
VM management, web servers being a kind of VM.

I am not pleased w/ Wikipedia, but believe that wiki is nearly the only way
to go if one supports a constructive web, as I do.  So, I guess I am
suggesting, that php shell go into GIT and discussion be on a wiki,
independent or through wiki media foundation.

What do you think?

John



On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Jan Kanis  wrote:

> I thought the svn version has a file upload capability (but maybe it needs
> to be enabled in the config file). A 'save and continue editing' option for
> the editor would be a good addition, but I'm not currently working a lot on
> phpshell, and I don't currently have time for it.
>
> Jan
>
>
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