Re: [Phptest-users] User gets someone else's results

2005-08-26 Thread Kathleen A. Ferraro


It think phptest is one of the nicest test programs I've seen. I don't 
think it would take much to make it more
robust. As I said we've used it for 3 years and except for the problem 
I've described and a few minor hiccups,
it's been great. This year the students really hammered on it. My 
results table had more than 300,000 records
in three days. They started getting a table full error. I dumped the 
data and emptied the table and everything
started back up again, so that problem could be eliminated by running a 
cron job to shutdown the database,
clear the table, and restart (or maybe) increase the table capacity? As 
for users getting the wrong results, it
may just be because I am still using mysql 3.xxx. Perhaps, this would 
not happen with 4.x.


I am going to look at the drupal quiz program to see if it will meet my 
needs. If not, I would be willing to work
with others to add the functionality, security, and power that phptest 
needs to make it an "industrial strength"

quiz program if others are interested (Dan? Donna? Others?).

What we are seeing  here, though, is, I think, is part of a larger 
problem. As educators want to move beyond the
syllabus dispensing and class roster managing functionality of 
Blackboard, WebCT, etc., we need to return to the
concept that these applications are not just database-backed web pages 
requiring nothing more than facility
in page design and rudimentary sql. Rather, they are complex pieces of 
software engineering that require
expertise in database management, system administration, security, etc. 
It is hard to persuade managers and
others who make the budgets of this when they have been so completely 
seduced by the false promises of the
greedy point and click mongers. So much for preaching to the choir, I 
know.


Have a great weekend everyone.

Best,
Kathie



On Aug 26, 2005, at 9:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Quoting Dan Kegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



Oooh.  I haven't looked at the code, but I wonder if
the code that assigns new result_id's is protected
at all from multiple people submitting at the same
time!

It's kind of sad how phptest has withered.  All the
other online test apps I've looked at are part of
huge packages that are intimidating to install...
- Dan



I agree - its a nice little application - good even for surveys etc.
Some of the other packages are overkill.

But it doesn't look like its maintained anymore. I posted a question a 
while
back and never got anythin g- I wasn't even sure the list was still 
working.


Well I guess there are three of us on the list -maybe we can revive it 
a bit.


I never had the test problem Kathleen had - but I never had two people 
doing it

at the same time... but I'll have to keep an eye out for that.

Please post again if you figure it out or find a work around.

Thanks

Donna

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DBK Web Developing
www.DBKonline.com

Adj. Prof Chemistry
Rider University










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Re: [Phptest-users] User gets someone else's results

2005-08-26 Thread donna

Quoting Dan Kegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



Oooh.  I haven't looked at the code, but I wonder if
the code that assigns new result_id's is protected
at all from multiple people submitting at the same
time!

It's kind of sad how phptest has withered.  All the
other online test apps I've looked at are part of
huge packages that are intimidating to install...
- Dan



I agree - its a nice little application - good even for surveys etc.
Some of the other packages are overkill.

But it doesn't look like its maintained anymore. I posted a question a while
back and never got anythin g- I wasn't even sure the list was still working.

Well I guess there are three of us on the list -maybe we can revive it a bit.

I never had the test problem Kathleen had - but I never had two people 
doing it

at the same time... but I'll have to keep an eye out for that.

Please post again if you figure it out or find a work around.

Thanks

Donna

===

Donna Bassolino-Klimas, Ph.D
DBK Web Developing
www.DBKonline.com

Adj. Prof Chemistry
Rider University










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Re: [Phptest-users] User gets someone else's results

2005-08-25 Thread Dan Kegel

Kathleen A. Ferraro wrote:

Currently my result table shows a maximum result_id
of 3623. Today a student emailed to say that when he completed a test, 
he saw another student's results rather than his.
own. I looked for both students' user_ids in the results table and found 
that they had completed a test within 5 seconds
of each other. 


Oooh.  I haven't looked at the code, but I wonder if
the code that assigns new result_id's is protected
at all from multiple people submitting at the same
time!

It's kind of sad how phptest has withered.  All the
other online test apps I've looked at are part of
huge packages that are intimidating to install...
- Dan

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[Phptest-users] User gets someone else's results

2005-08-25 Thread Kathleen A. Ferraro
I have been using a testing app based on phpTest for an online course 
for the past 3 years and ran into this problem once before.
The first time I guessed that a student had gotten on to a computer in 
the lab that still had another student logged in. This time I'm
not so sure. Our students have been using the phptest app since Monday. 
Currently my result table shows a maximum result_id
of 3623. Today a student emailed to say that when he completed a test, 
he saw another student's results rather than his.
own. I looked for both students' user_ids in the results table and 
found that they had completed a test within 5 seconds
of each other. It's been awhile since I've looked at the code that adds 
to the results table and displays results for users. I will
do that next if necessary but I was hoping someone who had encountered 
this problem in the past might be able to give me some advice.


By the way, has anyone tried the new drupal  quiz module? I've 
downloaded it but not installed it yet. I guess I'll try when

my course ends next week.

Best regards,

Kathie

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Kathleen A. Ferraro
Senior Information Systems Architect/
Instructional Technologist
University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
Pittsburgh, PA 15261 USA
412.648.1099 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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