Re: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries

2012-01-13 Thread Henrik Sarvell
I think I'm the only one except Alex (at least publicly) who actually took time to write a useful/largish web application (vizreader.com). I wanted to see for myself what that would entail. So vizreader is an RSS reader which shouldn't be too difficult, read som XML, store it in a database and the

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2012-01-13 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On January 13, 2012 at 5:49 PM Alexander Burger wrote: > As I see it, the problem of acceptance lies on a deeper level: > >    - Non-Lisp programmers don't like PicoLisp, _because_ it is Lisp. >      "Too many parentheses", and similar nonsense. Too different for >      them. > >    - Lisp progr

Re: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries

2012-01-13 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Damir, > On raising popularity... I've taken the task of making default > contact management app from Picolisp source look modern by taking > CSS up a notch - and failed miserably. > > Reasons? A) css & html is mingled with code and B) I'm used to > templates representing HTML, not functions (

Re: A collection of demonstrations of how to use PicoLisp

2012-01-13 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Jakob, > I will not quote, because I did not make myself very clear I think. > I am not proposing a PicoLisp editor for the sake of an editor, or > the writing of extensive PicoLisp only libraries. Yes, I understand. But my original mail was just about that. > I argue, (or tried - unsuccessf

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Re: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries

2012-01-13 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Jakob, > =C2=A0Then a good chunk of examples using foreign libraries would help a lo= > t. > Seeing is believing. A little picolisp editor using gnome libs and gtk, > an SDL game, a web client using CURL libraries and so on. No. Not at all. I think this is a typical misunderstanding of the Pic

Re: PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries

2012-01-13 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On January 13, 2012 at 12:45 PM Alexander Burger wrote: > > As Henrik also wrote, nobody wants to reinvent the wheel. Very true. The > intention of PicoLisp is to _avoid_ writing extensive libraries, and > rather use existing libs implemented in other languages. For that, > accessing external

PicoLisp and its (lack of) libraries

2012-01-13 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi all, from time to time, some people (hmm, to be exact, only Henrik so far ;-) write that the main obstacle for the acceptance of PicoLisp is its lack of libraries (e.g. [1]). I must say that I strongly disagree. I never felt this to be a problem, despite using it for decades of various kinds o