Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-07-15 Thread Mike
July 14, 2018 1:36 PM, "O.Hamann" wrote: > Outdated thread, but just to keep my promise: > > - dusty rasp has 64bit picolisp running, examined by (== 64 64) ==> T > > - *CPU shows 'emu' > > Os is a 64bit archlinux. archlinux should work out of box, what i would do: # install archlinux #

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-07-14 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Olaf, > Outdated thread, but just to keep my promise: > - dusty rasp has 64bit picolisp running, examined by (== 64 64) ==> T > - *CPU shows 'emu' > Os is a 64bit archlinux. I see. So it built emu as it could not find a matching Makefile entry. A native version would be preferrable if

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-07-14 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Thank you ! I've managed to run picolisp on my old RP and sshed to it. :) Thank you for getting back to the thread ! Jean-Christophe > On Jul 14, 2018, at 19:28, O.Hamann wrote: > > Outdated thread, but just to keep my promise: > > - dusty rasp has 64bit picolisp running, examined by (== 64

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-07-14 Thread O.Hamann
Outdated thread, but just to keep my promise: - dusty rasp has 64bit picolisp running, examined by (== 64 64) ==> T - *CPU shows 'emu' Os is a 64bit archlinux. Regards, Olaf On 14.06.2018 15:15, O.Hamann wrote: [...] - if I will find a 64bit picolisp on the dusty raspberry at home, I will

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-16 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jun 16, 2018, at 20:46, Alexander Williams wrote: > > JC: wasn't your goal to use PicoLisp 64-bit? ;) No the goal was to run it on the Mac, which *happens* to be 64bit :) > I also have an RPi2, and can power it from the MacBook but there's always a > spinning rainbow in the top left

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-16 Thread Alexander Williams
JC: wasn't your goal to use PicoLisp 64-bit? ;) I'm actually using a ROCK64 (arm64) daily, and of course run PicoLisp 64-bit on here. In terms of specs, it's **much** better than RPi3, but support is... I also have an RPi2, and can power it from the MacBook but there's always a spinning

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-14 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jun 14, 2018, at 22:55, Jean-Christophe Helary > wrote: > >> On Jun 14, 2018, at 22:15, O.Hamann > > wrote: >> >> I'm no really sure at the moment about 64bit picolisp, >> >> but for 32bit I did that several years ago. > > Now that I think about it, I do have

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-14 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jun 14, 2018, at 22:15, O.Hamann wrote: > > I'm no really sure at the moment about 64bit picolisp, > > but for 32bit I did that several years ago. Now that I think about it, I do have an old 32bit RP that's gathering dust. It's probably a RP 1 so it runs on ARM 6 and... The

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-14 Thread O.Hamann
I'm no really sure at the moment about 64bit picolisp, but for 32bit I did that several years ago. Was archlinux for that platform and compiled picolisp by myself. Worked nearly out of the box with a few compiler settings, which were documented in the picolisp section of mail-archive.com

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-14 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Now, I'm thinking, what if I get a Raspberry 3 (64bit arm processor) ? I'd have a dedicated machine, no virtualization overhead and I'd just need to ssh to it from the Mac to access picolisp. Anybody has run picolisp in such an environment? Jean-Christophe > On Jun 14, 2018, at 15:20,

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-14 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Alexander, What I'm finding is interesting. When I start pil and just stay inactive, TinyCore uses about 5-6% of the cpu on qemu, while Debian works at about 3-4%. In both cases I only installed a minimal system and I work on the CLI. Jean-Christophe > On Jun 14, 2018, at 1:26, Alexander

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-13 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Alexander, thank you very much for getting back to me ! I'll try that with Qemu later (probably faster to install than even a minimum Debian install :) JC > On Jun 14, 2018, at 1:26, Alexander Williams wrote: > > Sorry for the late reply. > > JC I think you probably downloaded TinyCore

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-12 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jun 12, 2018, at 18:42, Jean-Christophe Helary > wrote: >> The only issue with this setting is that to run picolisp I have an overhead >> of ~5% cpu use just to run VB headless. > > Trying to do everything again in qemu, to see the total cpu use... Ok, debian is *super slow* to install

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-12 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jun 12, 2018, at 18:12, Jean-Christophe Helary > wrote: > > Ok, I re-installed Debian in VirtualBox, installed only the basic utilities > and am accessing the thing headless to connect to my account and run > picolisp. It must be the first time I find some use for XQuartz :) > > The

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-12 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Ok, I re-installed Debian in VirtualBox, installed only the basic utilities and am accessing the thing headless to connect to my account and run picolisp. It must be the first time I find some use for XQuartz :) The only issue with this setting is that to run picolisp I have an overhead of ~5%

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-12 Thread Arie van Wingerden
OK. Good to hear you succeeded :) 2018-06-12 9:36 GMT+02:00 Jean-Christophe Helary : > > > On Jun 12, 2018, at 15:28, Arie van Wingerden wrote: > > OK. > My WSL installation is Ubuntu based. > Could you try e.g. Lubuntu in a VM? > > > Actually I got it working under Debian the other day. I

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-12 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jun 12, 2018, at 15:28, Arie van Wingerden wrote: > > OK. > My WSL installation is Ubuntu based. > Could you try e.g. Lubuntu in a VM? Actually I got it working under Debian the other day. I thought that Tiny Core Linux was more lightweight since I'd only use Virtual box for that... :)

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-12 Thread Arie van Wingerden
OK. My WSL installation is Ubuntu based. Could you try e.g. Lubuntu in a VM? I got a recent version of PicoLisp just installing it using apt, and it works well ... Op ma 11 jun. 2018 23:31 schreef Jean-Christophe Helary < brandel...@gmail.com>: > > > On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:36, Arie van Wingerden

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-11 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:36, Arie van Wingerden wrote: > > Hi Jean-Christophe, > > what host system are you using? macOS. I was brandelune on IRC :) JC > If on Windows 10 with the last april update WSL is really stable! > And PicoLisp works just fine. > There are a few "limits" in that some

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-11 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi Jean-Christophe, what host system are you using? If on Windows 10 with the last april update WSL is really stable! And PicoLisp works just fine. There are a few "limits" in that some features do not exist in WSL, e.g. there is no /etc/passwd file and such. For the rest all works OK. Best,

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-11 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Does anybody has better results with tinycorelinux ? JC > On Jun 7, 2018, at 22:25, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > > > >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:28, Alexander Williams > > wrote: >> >> +1 TinyCore, >> >> I use it for most of my work and testing Linux

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-07 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:28, Alexander Williams wrote: > > +1 TinyCore, > > I use it for most of my work and testing Linux applications. > > I'm also the "maintainer" of PicoLisp on TinyCore (64-bit only), so you > can install it (v17.12) with: > > tce-load -wi picolisp picolisp-lib

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-06 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Excellent news ! Jean-Christophe > On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:28, Alexander Williams wrote: > > +1 TinyCore, > > I use it for most of my work and testing Linux applications. > > I'm also the "maintainer" of PicoLisp on TinyCore (64-bit only), so you > can install it (v17.12) with: > > tce-load

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-06 Thread Alexander Williams
+1 TinyCore, I use it for most of my work and testing Linux applications. I'm also the "maintainer" of PicoLisp on TinyCore (64-bit only), so you can install it (v17.12) with: tce-load -wi picolisp picolisp-lib picolisp-doc AW On 06/06/2018 05:01 PM, think live wrote: > TinyCore is a nice

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-06 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jun 6, 2018, at 23:07, Alexander Burger wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 10:43:39PM +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: >> Btw, it is PL 1.6 that is in the Debian repositories. > > Hmm, there was never a version 1.6 - perhaps 16.2? Sorry that's what I meant :) > Both the testing

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-06 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Nice suggestion! I'll give it a try. Thank you. > On Jun 7, 2018, at 2:01, think live wrote: > > http://tinycorelinux.net/ > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_Core_Linux > > > TinyCore is a nice little virtual

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-06 Thread think live
http://tinycorelinux.net/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_Core_Linux TinyCore is a nice little virtual environment I have used to sandbox picolisp projects. I use it with virtual box and run them headless. Easy to mount external filesystems, ssh in, etc. /Lindsay On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 5:51

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-06 Thread Alexander Burger
On Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 10:43:39PM +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > Btw, it is PL 1.6 that is in the Debian repositories. Hmm, there was never a version 1.6 - perhaps 16.2? In any case, it looks like you installed an ancient (means: stable) Debian. Both the testing (buster) and unstable

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-06 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jun 6, 2018, at 22:01, Alexander Burger wrote: > > Hi Jean-Christophe, > >> I installed Debian in a virtual environment and then picolisp. >> I'm going to remove all the cruft to only keep a terminal and the like. > > This (Debian in a VM) is probably the best way. Thanks for the info!

Re: picolisp at last ?

2018-06-06 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Jean-Christophe, > I installed Debian in a virtual environment and then picolisp. > I'm going to remove all the cruft to only keep a terminal and the like. This (Debian in a VM) is probably the best way. Thanks for the info! ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE:

picolisp at last ?

2018-06-06 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Ok, I gave up :) I installed Debian in a virtual environment and then picolisp. I'm going to remove all the cruft to only keep a terminal and the like. Jean-Christophe Helary --- http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune -- UNSUBSCRIBE: