Re: Advice on learning the picolisp asm?
Hi Bruno, > the assembly part of pico is still too big for me to chew on, but I'll keep > my eye on it. After all, part of the allure of the language is that I might > be able to understand the Entire Thing someday. Exactly! :) ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Advice on learning the picolisp asm?
Thanks for the advice guys. I hadn't even thought of checking the documentation that actually *came* with the language. I've realised that the assembly part of pico is still too big for me to chew on, but I'll keep my eye on it. After all, part of the allure of the language is that I might be able to understand the Entire Thing someday. On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Alexander Burger wrote: > On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 01:49:28PM +0100, Joh-Tob Schäg wrote: > > I think if Regenaxer adds a new function the function pointer and thereby > > the binary(assembly code) becomes invalid. > > You misunderstood the question. > > > > On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 12:28:06AM -0500, Bruno Franco wrote: > > > > I don't really know any asm, but since the asm code for the picolisp > > > > functions is just a (vi 'function) away, I feel tempted to try. > > (vi 'function) edits the (Assembly- or Lisp-) *source* of 'function'. > > This has nothing to do with the function pointer, i.e. the address the > machine > code gets loaded to by the system linker at runtime. And this address is > not > predictable at all, it may even change upon each invocation of the binary, > depending on the linker and kernel's memory policy. > > - Alex > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe >
Re: Advice on learning the picolisp asm?
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 01:49:28PM +0100, Joh-Tob Schäg wrote: > I think if Regenaxer adds a new function the function pointer and thereby > the binary(assembly code) becomes invalid. You misunderstood the question. > > On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 12:28:06AM -0500, Bruno Franco wrote: > > > I don't really know any asm, but since the asm code for the picolisp > > > functions is just a (vi 'function) away, I feel tempted to try. (vi 'function) edits the (Assembly- or Lisp-) *source* of 'function'. This has nothing to do with the function pointer, i.e. the address the machine code gets loaded to by the system linker at runtime. And this address is not predictable at all, it may even change upon each invocation of the binary, depending on the linker and kernel's memory policy. - Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Advice on learning the picolisp asm?
I think if Regenaxer adds a new function the function pointer and thereby the binary(assembly code) becomes invalid. Am 31.12.2016 13:17 schrieb "Alexander Burger" : > On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 12:28:06AM -0500, Bruno Franco wrote: > > I don't really know any asm, but since the asm code for the picolisp > > functions is just a (vi 'function) away, I feel tempted to try. > > > > I've found some advice on learning asm in general, but is there > > anything unique of the one used in the picolisp virtual machine > > that I should know of? > > Probably not. All relevant details should be found in "doc64/asm". > - Alex > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe >
Re: Advice on learning the picolisp asm?
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 09:11:37AM +0100, Joh-Tob Schäg wrote: > As far as i know the picolisp assembler can change if now functions are > added to the machine in abway to invalidates all asm. But not sure. If you Uh? What changes? Can you be more clear? -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Advice on learning the picolisp asm?
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 12:28:06AM -0500, Bruno Franco wrote: > I don't really know any asm, but since the asm code for the picolisp > functions is just a (vi 'function) away, I feel tempted to try. > > I've found some advice on learning asm in general, but is there > anything unique of the one used in the picolisp virtual machine > that I should know of? Probably not. All relevant details should be found in "doc64/asm". - Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Advice on learning the picolisp asm?
As far as i know the picolisp assembler can change if now functions are added to the machine in abway to invalidates all asm. But not sure. If you want to learn some asm there are better places. Misp is famous for being easy to work with. Am 31.12.2016 06:33 schrieb "Bruno Franco" : > I don't really know any asm, but since the asm code for the picolisp > functions is just a (vi 'function) away, I feel tempted to try. > > I've found some advice on learning asm in general, but is there > anything unique of the one used in the picolisp virtual machine > that I should know of? >
Advice on learning the picolisp asm?
I don't really know any asm, but since the asm code for the picolisp functions is just a (vi 'function) away, I feel tempted to try. I've found some advice on learning asm in general, but is there anything unique of the one used in the picolisp virtual machine that I should know of?
