Re: PicoLisp on Raspi

2014-09-19 Thread Rowan Thorpe
On Fri 19 Sep 2014 15:47, Jakob Eriksson wrote:
 On September 19, 2014 at 3:18 PM Joe Bogner joebog...@gmail.com wrote:
  This might be off base, but is it within the realm of possibility to
  run PilMCU on a raspberry pi now or in the future? That's an accessible
  piece of hardware that many people already have (myself included). These
  people may also be willing to fund the work

 Raspi runs linux, so you can run PicoLisp on it right now. PilMCU is about
 new hardware chips.
 You could of course go the middle way, that could attract some attention:
 port PicoLisp to bare Raspberry Pi hardware. Also an interesting prospect.
 But the ARM cpu in the pi is not a natural fit, it is not 64 bit, only 32.
 So it would be more of a promo thing. But very cool in its own right.

Strange this came up just now - I am a long-time stalker on the mailing list,
and had been brewing the idea for a long time to get the ball rolling for a
Picolisp equivalent of this:

 http://common-lisp.net/project/movitz/movitz.html

and ultimately perhaps one day a picolisp-based kernel, and maybe even a
predominantly picolisp-OS (...I like to dream big).

I am for sure much more excited about this latest picolisp-machine announcement
though (LISP machines are back! Their time has come! Mwahahahaha!), but there
is probably still a good reason to also go the middle way too, for the
reasons already mentioned - to gain attention and to do meaningful performance
comparisons to existing software.

FWIW: I am totally up for contributing to PilMCU, RasPicolisp or Picolix86_64p
  in any way that I can. Count me in.

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Re: PicoLisp on Raspi

2014-09-19 Thread me
I too was looking into creating an FPGA implementation of picolisp and am
very excited about this.  A developer board which already runs Linux but
also has an FPGA onboard may be worth exploring.  Like this one:
http://shop.adapteva.com/collections/parallella/products/parallella-16-desktop-computer

Perhaps the picolisp chip could offload calculations to the 16 core
coprocessor for calculation intensive applications.  In any case this is
very exciting for many reasons and I'm happy to test and help however I
can.  Great work.
On Sep 19, 2014 11:20 AM, Rowan Thorpe ro...@rowanthorpe.com wrote:

 On Fri 19 Sep 2014 15:47, Jakob Eriksson wrote:
  On September 19, 2014 at 3:18 PM Joe Bogner joebog...@gmail.com wrote:
   This might be off base, but is it within the realm of possibility to
   run PilMCU on a raspberry pi now or in the future? That's an accessible
   piece of hardware that many people already have (myself included).
 These
   people may also be willing to fund the work
 
  Raspi runs linux, so you can run PicoLisp on it right now. PilMCU is
 about
  new hardware chips.
  You could of course go the middle way, that could attract some attention:
  port PicoLisp to bare Raspberry Pi hardware. Also an interesting
 prospect.
  But the ARM cpu in the pi is not a natural fit, it is not 64 bit, only
 32.
  So it would be more of a promo thing. But very cool in its own right.

 Strange this came up just now - I am a long-time stalker on the mailing
 list,
 and had been brewing the idea for a long time to get the ball rolling for a
 Picolisp equivalent of this:

  http://common-lisp.net/project/movitz/movitz.html

 and ultimately perhaps one day a picolisp-based kernel, and maybe even a
 predominantly picolisp-OS (...I like to dream big).

 I am for sure much more excited about this latest picolisp-machine
 announcement
 though (LISP machines are back! Their time has come! Mwahahahaha!), but
 there
 is probably still a good reason to also go the middle way too, for the
 reasons already mentioned - to gain attention and to do meaningful
 performance
 comparisons to existing software.

 FWIW: I am totally up for contributing to PilMCU, RasPicolisp or
 Picolix86_64p
   in any way that I can. Count me in.

 --
 Rowan Thorpe
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 sees
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Re: PicoLisp on Raspi

2014-09-19 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Joe, Jakob,

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 03:47:31PM +0200, Jakob Eriksson wrote:
 On September 19, 2014 at 3:18 PM Joe Bogner joebog...@gmail.com wrote:
  This might be off base, but is it within the realm of possibility to
  run PilMCU on a raspberry pi now or in the future? That's an accessible
  piece of hardware that many people already have (myself included). These
  people may also be willing to fund the work
 
 Raspi runs linux, so you can run PicoLisp on it right now. PilMCU is about
 new hardware chips.

Right. If you already have a Raspberry Pi, you can simply type

   # apt-get install picolisp


 You could of course go the middle way, that could attract some attention:
 port PicoLisp to bare Raspberry Pi hardware. Also an interesting prospect.
 But the ARM cpu in the pi is not a natural fit, it is not 64 bit, only 32.
 So it would be more of a promo thing. But very cool in its own right.

Right.


BTW, what if we call the PilMCU board Strawberry Pil ?

♪♫ Alex
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