Bug#804683: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Bug#804683: josm: Please switch to fonts-noto from fonts-droid

2015-11-13 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Hi all,

Am Freitag, den 13.11.2015, 10:56 +0530 schrieb Vasudev Kamath:
> Do you guys have any suggestion on the above issue mentioned by
> Sebastiaan.

this discussion reminds me of the one we had about the look of the
Cantarell font and how its shape changed when the Adobe CFF renderer
was enabled by default in Freetype: 

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=798805

Eventually, this has led to the following threads on the Fontconfig
mailing list: 

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/fontconfig/2015-October/005562.html

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/fontconfig/2015-November/005588.html

To summarize, font hinting depends very much on the format of the font
(i.e. OTF/CFF, TTF or Type 1) and the quality of the embedded hinting
information. The wide range of combinations this enables turns the
whole thing into a mess that currently noone seems to understand. The
two threads I have posted above try to shed some light into the
situation, though.

Cheers,

Fabian


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Bug#804683: josm: Please switch to fonts-noto from fonts-droid

2015-11-12 Thread Vasudev Kamath

Hi Sebastiaan,

I've just added fonts team to the Cc. Since I'm not very experienced in
this matter some one from team can provide some suggestion.

Sebastiaan Couwenberg  writes:

> Hi Vasudev,
>
> On 10-11-15 17:13, Bas Couwenberg wrote:
>> On 2015-11-10 16:46, Vasudev Kamath wrote:
>>> Since Android upstream stopped shipping Droid fonts and its been
>>> declared that Noto fonts will be superseding the Droid¹² we in
>>> "Debian Fonts Task Force" team decided to drop fonts-droid package.
>>>
>>> One of your package josm either
>>> Depends/Recommends/Suggests/Build-Depends on fonts-droid. I kindly
>>> request you to do the switch to fonts-noto instead.
>> 
>> The josm package uses the font-droid package in favor of the embedded
>> copies included in the JOSM source tree, I've created an issue in the
>> upstream tracker requesting them to switch to the Noto fonts too. This
>> should keep the divergence of the Debian package to a minimum.
>> 
>> I'll update JOSM package to use the Noto fonts whether or not upstream
>> decides to adopt them too.
>
> From the discussion in the upstream JOSM issue [0] it's become clear
> that the Noto font is not sharp as the Droid font it's meant to replace.
>
> In response to this concern raised by the JOSM developers I created an
> issue in the upstream noto-fonts issue tracker [1] in which I asked if
> it's possible to improve the sharpness at small font sizes.
>
> Do you have any suggestions how to improve the Noto font to be as sharp
> as the Droid font at small font sizes, before I raise the issue on the
> freetype-devel list as suggested in the noto-fonts issue?
>
> [0] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/12085
> [1] https://github.com/googlei18n/noto-fonts/issues/556

Dear pkg-fonts team,

Do you guys have any suggestion on the above issue mentioned by
Sebastiaan.

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Bug#804683: josm: Please switch to fonts-noto from fonts-droid

2015-11-12 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
Hi Vasudev,

On 10-11-15 17:13, Bas Couwenberg wrote:
> On 2015-11-10 16:46, Vasudev Kamath wrote:
>> Since Android upstream stopped shipping Droid fonts and its been
>> declared that Noto fonts will be superseding the Droid¹² we in
>> "Debian Fonts Task Force" team decided to drop fonts-droid package.
>>
>> One of your package josm either
>> Depends/Recommends/Suggests/Build-Depends on fonts-droid. I kindly
>> request you to do the switch to fonts-noto instead.
> 
> The josm package uses the font-droid package in favor of the embedded
> copies included in the JOSM source tree, I've created an issue in the
> upstream tracker requesting them to switch to the Noto fonts too. This
> should keep the divergence of the Debian package to a minimum.
> 
> I'll update JOSM package to use the Noto fonts whether or not upstream
> decides to adopt them too.

From the discussion in the upstream JOSM issue [0] it's become clear
that the Noto font is not sharp as the Droid font it's meant to replace.

In response to this concern raised by the JOSM developers I created an
issue in the upstream noto-fonts issue tracker [1] in which I asked if
it's possible to improve the sharpness at small font sizes.

Do you have any suggestions how to improve the Noto font to be as sharp
as the Droid font at small font sizes, before I raise the issue on the
freetype-devel list as suggested in the noto-fonts issue?

[0] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/12085
[1] https://github.com/googlei18n/noto-fonts/issues/556

Kind Regards,

Bas

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Bug#804683: josm: Please switch to fonts-noto from fonts-droid

2015-11-10 Thread Vasudev Kamath
Sebastiaan Couwenberg  writes:

> Control: tags -1 pending
>
> Hi Vasudev,
>
> The updated josm package has just been uploaded to experimental. After
> testing migration of the previous upload, I'll move it to unstable.

Thanks a lot for quickest upload :-).

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Bug#804683: josm: Please switch to fonts-noto from fonts-droid

2015-11-10 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
Control: tags -1 pending

Hi Vasudev,

The updated josm package has just been uploaded to experimental. After
testing migration of the previous upload, I'll move it to unstable.

Kind Regards,

Bas

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Bug#804683: josm: Please switch to fonts-noto from fonts-droid

2015-11-10 Thread Vasudev Kamath
Hi Bas,

Bas Couwenberg  writes:

> Control: tags -1 upstream
> Control: forwarded -1 https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/12085
>
> Hi Vasudev,
>
> On 2015-11-10 16:46, Vasudev Kamath wrote:
>> Since Android upstream stopped shipping Droid fonts and its been
>> declared that Noto fonts will be superseding the Droid¹² we in
>> "Debian Fonts Task Force" team decided to drop fonts-droid package.
>>
>> One of your package josm either
>> Depends/Recommends/Suggests/Build-Depends on fonts-droid. I kindly
>> request you to do the switch to fonts-noto instead.
>
> The josm package uses the font-droid package in favor of the embedded
> copies included in the JOSM source tree, I've created an issue in the
> upstream tracker requesting them to switch to the Noto fonts too. This
> should keep the divergence of the Debian package to a minimum.
>
> I'll update JOSM package to use the Noto fonts whether or not upstream
> decides to adopt them too.

Thanks for the quick response.!

Cheers,

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Bug#804683: josm: Please switch to fonts-noto from fonts-droid

2015-11-10 Thread Bas Couwenberg

Control: tags -1 upstream
Control: forwarded -1 https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/12085

Hi Vasudev,

On 2015-11-10 16:46, Vasudev Kamath wrote:

Since Android upstream stopped shipping Droid fonts and its been
declared that Noto fonts will be superseding the Droid¹² we in
"Debian Fonts Task Force" team decided to drop fonts-droid package.

One of your package josm either
Depends/Recommends/Suggests/Build-Depends on fonts-droid. I kindly
request you to do the switch to fonts-noto instead.


The josm package uses the font-droid package in favor of the embedded 
copies included in the JOSM source tree, I've created an issue in the 
upstream tracker requesting them to switch to the Noto fonts too. This 
should keep the divergence of the Debian package to a minimum.


I'll update JOSM package to use the Noto fonts whether or not upstream 
decides to adopt them too.


Kind Regards,

Bas

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Bug#804683: josm: Please switch to fonts-noto from fonts-droid

2015-11-10 Thread Vasudev Kamath

Package: josm
Severity: normal
User: pkg-fonts-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Usertags: droid-migration

Dear Maintainer,

Since Android upstream stopped shipping Droid fonts and its been
declared that Noto fonts will be superseding the Droid¹² we in
"Debian Fonts Task Force" team decided to drop fonts-droid package.

One of your package josm either
Depends/Recommends/Suggests/Build-Depends on fonts-droid. I kindly
request you to do the switch to fonts-noto instead.

If you are using Fallback variants of Droid fonts, I would like note
that these fonts will still be shipped as part of new
fonts-droid-fallback package.

¹ https://github.com/googlei18n/noto-fonts/issues/555
² 
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-fonts-devel/attachments/20151031/011f4334/attachment.mht

Best Regards, 

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