Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] node-xregexp_3.1.1+dfsg-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

[Israel Galadima]

Hi Jonas,

Thanks... I completely missed what he asked for.

I've made the changes to my fork here: 
https://salsa.debian.org/izzygala/node-xregexp


Regards.

On 15-Feb-23 5:17 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

Hi Israel,

Quoting Israel Galadima (2023-02-15 12:14:28)

Would it be possible for you to give this another look?

The file tools/generate-unicode.sh shows that the unicode data in
tools/data folder were downloaded from
https://unicode.org/Public/8.0.0/ucd/*

Looking at this webpage https://www.unicode.org/copyright.html under
section B, they define all unicode files under
https://www.unicode.org/Public/
as Unicode Data Files ("DATA FILES")

Looking at the same webpage under section C.3, they mention that all
Unicode Data Files ("DATA FILES") are covered by the license found here
https://www.unicode.org/license.txt

After looking at the license here https://www.unicode.org/license.txt ,
I don't think the unicode data in tools/data folderare non-free.

What Thorsten asks is that you include the above clarification as a
"Comment:" field in the debian/copyright file.

  - Jonas



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Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] node-xregexp_3.1.1+dfsg-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Hi Israel,

Quoting Israel Galadima (2023-02-15 12:14:28)
> Would it be possible for you to give this another look?
> 
> The file tools/generate-unicode.sh shows that the unicode data in 
> tools/data folder were downloaded from 
> https://unicode.org/Public/8.0.0/ucd/*
> 
> Looking at this webpage https://www.unicode.org/copyright.html under 
> section B, they define all unicode files under 
> https://www.unicode.org/Public/
> as Unicode Data Files ("DATA FILES")
> 
> Looking at the same webpage under section C.3, they mention that all 
> Unicode Data Files ("DATA FILES") are covered by the license found here
> https://www.unicode.org/license.txt
> 
> After looking at the license here https://www.unicode.org/license.txt , 
> I don't think the unicode data in tools/data folderare non-free.

What Thorsten asks is that you include the above clarification as a
"Comment:" field in the debian/copyright file.

 - Jonas

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Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] node-xregexp_3.1.1+dfsg-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

[Israel Galadima]

Hi Thorsten,

Would it be possible for you to give this another look?

The file tools/generate-unicode.sh shows that the unicode data in 
tools/data folder were downloaded from 
https://unicode.org/Public/8.0.0/ucd/*


Looking at this webpage https://www.unicode.org/copyright.html under 
section B, they define all unicode files under 
https://www.unicode.org/Public/

as Unicode Data Files ("DATA FILES")

Looking at the same webpage under section C.3, they mention that all 
Unicode Data Files ("DATA FILES") are covered by the license found here

https://www.unicode.org/license.txt

After looking at the license here https://www.unicode.org/license.txt , 
I don't think the unicode data in tools/data folderare non-free.


On 04-Feb-23 3:10 AM, Thorsten Alteholz wrote:

Hi,

can you please explain more verbose why tools/data/* is licensed under X11?
The best would be to add a comment in your debian/copyright.

Thanks!
  Thorsten



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Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] node-xregexp_3.1.1+dfsg-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

[Israel Galadima]

Hi,


The sentences "Modification is not permitted with respect to this 
document. All copies of this document must be verbatim" were referring 
to the contents of that particular webpage 
https://www.unicode.org/copyright.html.



The files in tools/data/ are downloaded from http://unicode.org/Public/. 
This is evident from snippets in tools/generate-unicode.sh file.


The webpage https://www.unicode.org/copyright.html defines all files 
under http://unicode.org/Public/ as Unicode Data Files ("DATA FILES").


The copyright license here https://www.unicode.org/license.txt covers 
all Unicode Data Files ("DATA FILES") and looks like an X11 license.



I think the files in tools/data/ are dfsg compatible as seen from the 
license here https://www.unicode.org/license.txt.



On 04-Feb-23 11:00 AM, Thorsten Alteholz wrote:

Hi,

sorry, but I don't see the license text of Unicode-Expat on the websites you 
mention in the comment.
Instead I see something like: "Modification is not permitted with respect to this 
document."
So I don't think the license of the files in tools/data/ are compatible with 
DFSG.

   Thorsten



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Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] node-xregexp_3.1.1+dfsg-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting Yadd (2023-02-04 13:19:56)
> On 2/4/23 14:00, Thorsten Alteholz wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > sorry, but I don't see the license text of Unicode-Expat on the websites 
> > you mention in the comment.
> > Instead I see something like: "Modification is not permitted with respect 
> > to this document."
> > So I don't think the license of the files in tools/data/ are compatible 
> > with DFSG.
> > 
> >Thorsten
> 
> Hi,
> 
> these files exist also in liblayout sources, example: 
> https://sources.debian.org/src/liblayout/0.2.10-5/resource/Blocks.txt/?hl=4#L4
> and modified version of them are included in libreoffice (see 
> https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=Unicode+Character+Database)
> 
> So if they are not free, we should drop libreoffice from Debian too.
> 
> Upstream copyright isn't clear, on the given link you can find:
> 
>[...]
>3 Further specifications of rights and restrictions pertaining to the
>  use of the Unicode DATA FILES and SOFTWARE can be found in the
>  Unicode Data Files and Software License
>  .
>[...]
> 
> which points to the same text than added in node-xregexp (modified 
> Expat), and
> 
>[...]
>8 Modification is not permitted with respect to this document. All
>  copies of this document must be verbatim
>[...]
> 
> So what can we do, consider node-xregexp as free or exclude libreoffice 
> or maybe there is another solution?

Two wrongs don't make a right: This being an issue un other packages too
is not an argument that this one should be acceptable.

If the licensing is considered DFSG-free, then defend that (not here in
an email conversation discrete with ftpmaster, but) in a Comment field
in debian/copyright file, and re-upload.

If the licensing considered DFSG-nonfree, then a) for this package (if
possible) repackage to exclude the nonfree files and document why they
are excluded in debian/copyright, and b) for other packages containing
same/similar files file severe bugreports about each case.


 - Jonas

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Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] node-xregexp_3.1.1+dfsg-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

[Yadd]

On 2/4/23 14:00, Thorsten Alteholz wrote:


Hi,

sorry, but I don't see the license text of Unicode-Expat on the websites you 
mention in the comment.
Instead I see something like: "Modification is not permitted with respect to this 
document."
So I don't think the license of the files in tools/data/ are compatible with 
DFSG.

   Thorsten


Hi,

these files exist also in liblayout sources, example: 
https://sources.debian.org/src/liblayout/0.2.10-5/resource/Blocks.txt/?hl=4#L4
and modified version of them are included in libreoffice (see 
https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=Unicode+Character+Database)


So if they are not free, we should drop libreoffice from Debian too.

Upstream copyright isn't clear, on the given link you can find:

  [...]
  3 Further specifications of rights and restrictions pertaining to the
use of the Unicode DATA FILES and SOFTWARE can be found in the
Unicode Data Files and Software License
.
  [...]

which points to the same text than added in node-xregexp (modified 
Expat), and


  [...]
  8 Modification is not permitted with respect to this document. All
copies of this document must be verbatim
  [...]

So what can we do, consider node-xregexp as free or exclude libreoffice 
or maybe there is another solution?


Regards,
Yadd

Ref: https://www.unicode.org/copyright.html

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[Pkg-javascript-devel] node-xregexp_3.1.1+dfsg-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

[Thorsten Alteholz]

Hi,

sorry, but I don't see the license text of Unicode-Expat on the websites you 
mention in the comment.
Instead I see something like: "Modification is not permitted with respect to 
this document."
So I don't think the license of the files in tools/data/ are compatible with 
DFSG.

  Thorsten



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[Pkg-javascript-devel] node-xregexp_3.1.1+dfsg-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

[Thorsten Alteholz]

Hi,

can you please explain more verbose why tools/data/* is licensed under X11?
The best would be to add a comment in your debian/copyright.

Thanks!
 Thorsten



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