Re: [Pkg-kde-extras] deluge and GeoIP database license
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 08:09:45PM +0100, Patrick Matthäi wrote: Cristian Greco schrieb: Hi all, I'm working for a new upload of deluge[0] (bittorrent client). The source tarball includes a GeoLite Country (binary) database by MaxMind, which should be distributed using the license[1] below. Please do not ship any copys of the database, such things are serious. I know, but actually the license seems to be suitable for main, isn't it? Thanks, Cristian -- . ''`. Cristian Greco - [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : http://alioth.debian.org/~cristian-guest `. `'` GPG Public Key ID: 1024D/0C095825 `- signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-kde-extras mailing list pkg-kde-extras@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-extras
Re: [Pkg-kde-extras] deluge and GeoIP database license
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 08:09:45PM +0100, Patrick Matthäi wrote: Yeah it was considered non-free. I adopted the package and fixed the issues together with the upstream authors. It is fixed since I am repackaging it with a dfsg tarball. I see your point here. I had a look at your geoip package in experimental (1.4.5.dfsg-1). You removed the string All Rights Reserved from the GeoIP database using: $ sed 's/ All Rights Reserved//' -i data/GeoIP.dat In effect, the GeoLiteCountry database used by deluge has the very same problem: $ wget http://www.maxmind.com/download/geoip/database/GeoLiteCountry/GeoIP.dat.gz $ gunzip GeoIP.dat.gz $ strings GeoIP.dat GEO-106FREE 20081101 Build 1 Copyright (c) 2007 MaxMind LLC All Rights Reserved I guess I'll ask MaxMind for a similar permission to change the copyright statement and then I'll repackage the source tarball. Any suggestion? Thanks, Cristian -- . ''`. Cristian Greco - [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : http://alioth.debian.org/~cristian-guest `. `'` GPG Public Key ID: 1024D/0C095825 `- signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-kde-extras mailing list pkg-kde-extras@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-extras
Re: [Pkg-kde-extras] deluge and GeoIP database license
Cristian Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found that ktorrent (CCing to pkg-kde-extras, please CC your replies because I'm not subscribed) uses the same DB by MaxMind, but that license has been considered non DFSG-free two years ago by the list[2]. It was the APNIC, ARIN and RIPE databases which didn't meet DFSG. The MaxMind one was acceptable but contained the obnoxious ad clause. Doubts: 1) Is this license really suitable for distribution in main now? 2) If so, what about ktorrent? Should they update their copy of the database in order to avoid source repackaging? If the other copyrights no longer apply, it's suitable. I don't know what's best for ktorrent. Hope that helps, -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only: see http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ Please follow http://www.uk.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct ___ pkg-kde-extras mailing list pkg-kde-extras@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-extras
[Pkg-kde-extras] deluge and GeoIP database license
Hi all, I'm working for a new upload of deluge[0] (bittorrent client). The source tarball includes a GeoLite Country (binary) database by MaxMind, which should be distributed using the license[1] below. I've found that ktorrent (CCing to pkg-kde-extras, please CC your replies because I'm not subscribed) uses the same DB by MaxMind, but that license has been considered non DFSG-free two years ago by the list[2]. Well, the actual license seems to be different from the previous one, and in particular it probably lacks of the non DFSG-compliant text. Doubts: 1) Is this license really suitable for distribution in main now? 2) If so, what about ktorrent? Should they update their copy of the database in order to avoid source repackaging? Thanks, Cristian [0] currently known as deluge-torrent, I'll be the new maintainer of the package (agreed by the actual maintainer). [1] http://www.maxmind.com/download/geoip/database/LICENSE.txt [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2006/06/msg00093.html ---License begin There are two licenses, one for the C library software, and one for the database. SOFTWARE LICENSE (C library) The GeoIP C Library is licensed under the LGPL. For details see the COPYING file. OPEN DATA LICENSE (GeoLite Country and GeoLite City databases) Copyright (c) 2008 MaxMind, Inc. All Rights Reserved. All advertising materials and documentation mentioning features or use of this database must display the following acknowledgment: This product includes GeoLite data created by MaxMind, available from http://maxmind.com/; Redistribution and use with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: 1. Redistributions must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. 2. All advertising materials and documentation mentioning features or use of this database must display the following acknowledgement: This product includes GeoLite data created by MaxMind, available from http://maxmind.com/; 3. MaxMind may not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this database without specific prior written permission. THIS DATABASE IS PROVIDED BY MAXMIND, INC ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL MAXMIND BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS DATABASE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. ---License end -- . ''`. Cristian Greco - [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : http://alioth.debian.org/~cristian-guest `. `'` GPG Public Key ID: 1024D/0C095825 `- signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-kde-extras mailing list pkg-kde-extras@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-extras
Re: [Pkg-kde-extras] deluge and GeoIP database license
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 01:42:36AM +0200, Modestas Vainius wrote: Hello, penktadienis 21 Lapkritis 2008, Cristian Greco rašė: I've found that ktorrent (CCing to pkg-kde-extras, please CC your replies because I'm not subscribed) uses the same DB by MaxMind, ktorrent package does not ship any DB, it just links against libgeoip and uses whatever that one provides. Hi Modestas, AFAICS ktorrent source tarball has been repackaged because it ships the GeoIP DB by MaxMind and some flag icons (another problem in common with deluge). Do you have any suggestion about the license above? Thanks, Cristian -- . ''`. Cristian Greco - [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : http://alioth.debian.org/~cristian-guest `. `'` GPG Public Key ID: 1024D/0C095825 `- signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-kde-extras mailing list pkg-kde-extras@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-extras
Re: [Pkg-kde-extras] deluge and GeoIP database license
Hello, penktadienis 21 Lapkritis 2008, Cristian Greco rašė: I've found that ktorrent (CCing to pkg-kde-extras, please CC your replies because I'm not subscribed) uses the same DB by MaxMind, ktorrent package does not ship any DB, it just links against libgeoip and uses whatever that one provides. -- Modestas Vainius [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ pkg-kde-extras mailing list pkg-kde-extras@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-extras
Re: [Pkg-kde-extras] deluge and GeoIP database license
Cristian Greco wrote: Hi all, I'm working for a new upload of deluge[0] (bittorrent client). The source tarball includes a GeoLite Country (binary) database by MaxMind, which should be distributed using the license[1] below. I've found that ktorrent (CCing to pkg-kde-extras, please CC your replies because I'm not subscribed) uses the same DB by MaxMind, but that license has been considered non DFSG-free two years ago by the list[2]. Well, the actual license seems to be different from the previous one, and in particular it probably lacks of the non DFSG-compliant text. The licence text as shown has no DFSG issues. The avdertising clause is annoying but it does not make it non-free. If and only if the other licenses really do not apply to the data, and that upstream is not just lying by not showing those notices anymore, then there is no problem with the data being included in main. Doubts: 1) Is this license really suitable for distribution in main now? 2) If so, what about ktorrent? Should they update their copy of the database in order to avoid source repackaging? From your other message it sounds like ktorrent may still have another reason to repackage, so little is gained by updating the copy. If that is not the case, then updating the copy to avoid repackaging sounds like a good idea. Disclamers: IANADD, IANAL ___ pkg-kde-extras mailing list pkg-kde-extras@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-extras
