Re: Qt 5.4 and QtWebEngine
On Monday 20 April 2015 23:23:13 Kevin Krammer wrote: On Friday, 2014-10-10, 00:19:51, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: So my *personal* plan for Jessie+1 is this: not loose a single second on QtWebEngine. Of course I won't stop anyone in trying to ship it. But if no one steps up to maintain it I will not hesitate in simply ignoring it as much as possible, even at the point of not shipping stuff that depends on it. Since this is the web engine of Qt, is then plan not to ship Qt at all or not to ship this specific module? The plan is not to ship it as long as nobody packages it. But for somebody to package it he will *really* need time and packaging skills. And if he is not a DD he will need one with also quite a lot of time to review and sponsor the upload. Assuming the latter, wouldn't that mean that each application will have to ship its locally bundled version, resulting in dozends or hundrets of per- package copies of the module of significant size? The packaging problem remains the same so it means that those apps will either need a way to not use it's functionality or not be shipped at all. -- Some consider UNIX to be the second most important invention to come out of ATT Bell Labs after the transistor. Dennis Ritchie, creator of the C programming language and co-creator of UNIX http://www.linfo.org/q_unix.html Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: Qt 5.4 and QtWebEngine
On Friday, 2014-10-10, 00:19:51, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: So my *personal* plan for Jessie+1 is this: not loose a single second on QtWebEngine. Of course I won't stop anyone in trying to ship it. But if no one steps up to maintain it I will not hesitate in simply ignoring it as much as possible, even at the point of not shipping stuff that depends on it. Since this is the web engine of Qt, is then plan not to ship Qt at all or not to ship this specific module? Assuming the latter, wouldn't that mean that each application will have to ship its locally bundled version, resulting in dozends or hundrets of per- package copies of the module of significant size? Cheers, Kevin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: Qt 5.4 and QtWebEngine
Hey, kdepim in now on the track to release a Qt5 version in August. kdepim has a dependency on QtWebEngine. Of course I won't stop anyone in trying to ship it. But if no one steps up to maintain it I will not hesitate in simply ignoring it as much as possible, even at the point of not shipping stuff that depends on it. I'll stand up to ship it :) Regards, sandro -- Am Freitag, 10. Oktober 2014, 00:19:51 schrieb Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer: As you might know, Digia plans to ship QtWebEngine as a kind of replacement for QtWebkit on 5.4. I have just had a chat with one of Fedora's maintainers and discussed some of the key points on QtWebEngine. Note that I only checked some of the following, feel free to pin point whatever you fell/like. - It uses V8 (the same we got rid some months ago from qtdeclarative) which doesn't builds on all archs. - It bundles ffmpeg and it seems not easy to use an external (system) one. In case we still have it in the archive for Jessie+1. - Bundles even more stuff that webkit - It's not a drop-in replacement for QtWebkit - It will mean another copy of the code in the archive, apart from Chromium itself - QNetworkAccess support is gone (no KIO nor Qt's http code) So my *personal* plan for Jessie+1 is this: not loose a single second on QtWebEngine. Of course I won't stop anyone in trying to ship it. But if no one steps up to maintain it I will not hesitate in simply ignoring it as much as possible, even at the point of not shipping stuff that depends on it. Cheers, Lisandro. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: Qt 5.4 and QtWebEngine
I'll stand up to ship it :) Regards, sandro I can help with whatever needs fixing and what not. Cheers Rohan Garg -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: Qt 5.4 and QtWebEngine
On Monday 20 April 2015 17:16:40 you wrote: Hey, kdepim in now on the track to release a Qt5 version in August. kdepim has a dependency on QtWebEngine. Saw this on IRC and I'm about to write to kde-core-devel, previously syncing with Fedora maintainers Of course I won't stop anyone in trying to ship it. But if no one steps up to maintain it I will not hesitate in simply ignoring it as much as possible, even at the point of not shipping stuff that depends on it. I'll stand up to ship it :) I *think* you really don't understand the mess you are getting into... And you will need a sposnsor for that... -- A computer is like an air conditioner. It stops working when you open windows. Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
