Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-29 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 09:15:20PM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: I don't think it is a practical problem to point than more than one diff in the announcement and/or changelog. Do you? For the Debian Security Team is pointer to an upload commit is usually sufficient. Adding one would be much

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-18 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:55:02 (CEST), Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:14:52 -0400, Reinhard Tartler siret...@tauware.de wrote: On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:01:13 (EDT), Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: Ping maintainers and debian security team. Indicate the security issue, the

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-18 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
Le dimanche 18 juillet 2010 12:00:47 Reinhard Tartler, vous avez écrit : So this piece of information is pretty useless for identifying missing changes in 0.8.x. That's not my problem (anymore). We have made about twenty releases, from four different branches since Debian Stable has

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-18 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 13:25:30 (CEST), Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: Le dimanche 18 juillet 2010 12:00:47 Reinhard Tartler, vous avez écrit : So this piece of information is pretty useless for identifying missing changes in 0.8.x. That's not my problem (anymore). We have made about

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-18 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
Hello, Le dimanche 18 juillet 2010 17:56:16 Reinhard Tartler, vous avez écrit : vlc-devel is a really high volume mailing list, It's not so bad since commit logs were secluded to a list of their own. Besides, we tend to tag relevant topics with '[PACKAGERS]'. At least the OpenSUSE

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-18 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 17:23:48 (CEST), Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: And I'm asking you *again*: What can we do so that the situation improves? Are you evading my question? We know that we suck in this regard, emphasizing this part from your side is probably not going to improve the situation.

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 06:14:26PM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote : I think the biggest problem we face here is communication. It is totally unreasonable to expect everyone to read and follow vlc. Can you please either be more explicit with your VSAs or perhaps create a more specialized mailing

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-18 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 19:41:46 (CEST), Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 06:14:26PM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote : I think the biggest problem we face here is communication. It is totally unreasonable to expect everyone to read and follow vlc. Can you please either be more

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 08:02:50PM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote : It's not, and I've elaborated why in the paragraph you've killed in your reply. What do you need? sha1s of the commits? This has not changed, but AFAIUI, there are only very focused and documented changes in bugfix branches.

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-18 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 20:09:33 (CEST), Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 08:02:50PM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote : It's not, and I've elaborated why in the paragraph you've killed in your reply. What do you need? sha1s of the commits? That sounds great. Even better if in

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-18 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
Le dimanche 18 juillet 2010 21:02:50 Reinhard Tartler, vous avez écrit : On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 19:41:46 (CEST), Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 06:14:26PM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote : I think the biggest problem we face here is communication. It is totally

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-18 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 20:37:59 (CEST), Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: Le dimanche 18 juillet 2010 21:02:50 Reinhard Tartler, vous avez écrit : On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 19:41:46 (CEST), Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 06:14:26PM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote : I think the

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-16 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:14:52 -0400, Reinhard Tartler siret...@tauware.de wrote: On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:01:13 (EDT), Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: Ping maintainers and debian security team. Indicate the security issue, the patch and or new tarball. It's not like it's not known:

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-13 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
Hello, On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 22:28:59 +0200, Benjamin Drung bdr...@ubuntu.com wrote: I doubt that we can pull a new upstream version into a stable Ubuntu release (e.g. vlc 1.1.0 in Ubuntu 10.04), because the new version breaks the ABI of the older version and therefore break applications

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-13 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 02:49:15 (EDT), Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: Hello, On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 22:28:59 +0200, Benjamin Drung bdr...@ubuntu.com wrote: I doubt that we can pull a new upstream version into a stable Ubuntu release (e.g. vlc 1.1.0 in Ubuntu 10.04), because the new version

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-13 Thread Reinhard Tartler
[sorry for the resent, it seems the CC line was wrong in the previous mail] On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 14:54:53 (EDT), Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: Hello, I think it is fair to say that there is increasing frustration from users and developers w.r.t. the state of VLC in Debian Ubuntu. I

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-13 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:22:11 +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com wrote: 2010/7/12 Rémi Denis-Courmont r...@remlab.net:        Hello, I think it is fair to say that there is increasing frustration from users and developers w.r.t. the state of VLC in Debian Ubuntu. I am left

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-13 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 08:40:09 -0400, Reinhard Tartler siret...@tauware.de wrote: So let's check: | vlc | 0.8.6.release.e+x264svn20071224+faad2.6.1-0ubuntu3.3 | hardy-updates/universe | source | vlc | 0.9.9a-2ubuntu1 | jaunty/multiverse | source, amd64, i386 | vlc | 1.0.2-1ubuntu2 |

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-13 Thread Christophe Mutricy
% apt-cache rdepends libvlc2 libvlc2 Reverse Depends: vlc-nox mozilla-plugin-vlc libvlc-dev % apt-cache showsrc vlc-nox libvlc-dev mozilla-plugin-vlc| \ grep Package: | uniq Package: vlc So the ABI issue is a non-issue, since nobody uses libvlc outside of vlc itself. It's

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-13 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:01:13 (EDT), Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: Ping maintainers and debian security team. Indicate the security issue, the patch and or new tarball. It's not like it's not known: http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/stable it lists 4 CVEs:

Re: [vlc-devel] Debian/Ubuntu VLC

2010-07-13 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:13:22 (EDT), Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 08:40:09 -0400, Reinhard Tartler siret...@tauware.de wrote: So let's check: | vlc | 0.8.6.release.e+x264svn20071224+faad2.6.1-0ubuntu3.3 | hardy-updates/universe | source | vlc | 0.9.9a-2ubuntu1 |